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Big Ten Conference Divisions

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OneBuckeye;1758047; said:
Even so, I don't think the team would throw away, or not get up for the game. I do think it is a non issue. The only issue is the rematch.
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B10 division is locked up, no shot at a NC and the B10CG winner will be the only BCS team from the B10. Pryor has a tweaked hammy he's been fighting all year. He could go but an extra week of rest would ensure he's as close to 100% as he can be for the game that really "matters".

What do you do?
 
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Piney;1758038; said:
Ok, so we are in different divisions but still play the last game of the year? STUPID!

But another stupid thing... does this mean the last weekend will be cross-divisional rivals too? Cuz if Michigan & Ohio state play the last game of the season, that means at least another cross divisional rival will have to play the last week of the season (to make sure everyone plays that weekend)

So what does the last week of the season look like now?

The obvious...
Ohio State v Michigan
Iowa v Minnesota (same division)
Purdue v Indiana (same division)

The other 3 matchups?
Nebraska v Wisconsin
Northwestern v Illinois
MSU v Penn State

But those are all cross-division rivals. Of course Iowa can switch their season ender to Nebraska and then Wisconsin can play Minnesota.
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Not Iowa-Nebraska and Wisky-Minny?
 
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sillyhuskerfan;1758001; said:
As a Husker Fan that went through this with the formation of the Big 12, if NU -OU was going to be split up, I wanted a designated game around Halloween, a rivalry weekend as it were, to allow some steam to build back up before a possible rematch, and the drama building to see who will make it to the CCG from each division, or keep them in the same division and play the last week for the right to go to a CCG. Unfortunately the Big 12 and Ou decided they didn't want a designated rival format and the NU - OU game became an afterthought. i can't see the advantage in keeping the Game on the last weekend when they are in separate divisions. I feel your pain, hopefully this is all a smokescreen and a better model will be unveiled.
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Oh but OU and UT certainly had a voice in what rivalry game would be preserved didn't they? You guys got hosed -- by OU, yeah, but I sure as hell see Austin's greedy face in the background.
 
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Jaxbuck;1758043; said:
If we sat down and tried to fuck this up worse than the B10 brass has done, could we?
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the problem is their refusal to compromise on the pipe dream of an Ohio State Michigan conference championship game, by only compromising halfway they are potentially making things worse

all we can hope for is a quick expansion to 14 or 16 teams a chance for the morons to hit the redo button
 
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Playing with the updated version of the BigTen Division Creator:

Woody Division/Bo Division:
Ohio State/Michigan*
Illinois/Northwestern*
Penn State/Michigan State*
Wisconsin/Minnesota*
Purdue/Iowa
Indiana/Nebraska

Competitiveness: A+ (100)
Rivalries: A- (85)
Geography: B (68)

Overall: A+ (94)


South Division/North Division:
Ohio State/Michigan*
Penn State/Michigan State*
Northwestern/Iowa*
Illinois/Nebraska
Indiana/Wisconsin
Purdue/Minnesota

Competitiveness: B+ (75)
Rivalries: A+ (100)
Geography: A- (80)

Overall: A (89)

East Division/West Division
Ohio State/Illinois*
Michigan/Minnesota*
Michigan State/Wisconsin
Penn State/Iowa*
Indiana/Nebraska
Purdue/Northwestern*

Competitiveness: B+ (71)
Rivalries: A+ (100)
Geography: A+ (100)

Overall: A+ (92)

Lakes Division/Plains Division
Ohio State/Nebraska
Michigan/Minnesota*
Michigan State/Wisconsin
Penn State/Iowa*
Indiana/Purdue*
Illinois/Northwestern*

Competitiveness: A- (79)
Rivalries: A+ (100)
Geography: A+ (95)

Overall: A+ (96)

*Protected inter-divisional rivalries

This updated version takes into account the last 17 years of games as opposed to the 7 years the previous version did. It also allows for a single inter-divisional rivalry to be "protected" outside of the division.

When you go back further, the North/South split isn't nearly as great looking as it seemed.

But what pisses me right the fuck off, is the last one on this list. The Lakes/Plains set-up. It is literally perfect. It's the best score you can possibly get via this model, but regardless of that it keeps Ohio State and Michigan in the same division, it fosters intra-divisional rivalries with Nebraska/Iowa and Nebraska/Wisconsin and it separates Ohio State and Nebraska who SHOULD be separate. It even allows ample opportunity for further expansion through the plains (Missouri, Texas A&M, etc...) and the Lakes (Rutgers, Pittsburgh, etc...)
 
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Buckeye86;1758064; said:
the problem is their refusal to compromise on the pipe dream of an Ohio State Michigan conference championship game, by only compromising halfway they are potentially making things worse

all we can hope for is a quick expansion to 14 or 16 teams a chance for the morons to hit the redo button
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Agreed. It's fucking stupid to arrange divisions such that you have to specially ensure the same 2 teams play every year that you are creaming your shorts about making the title game...where you hope they will play many years. Makes zero sense in any fashion. If anything, divisions ensure certain teams play every year and that certain teams can play for the title every year...but not BOTH. Dumbfucks. Are Alabama and Auburn in opposite divisions? Ole Miss and Mississippi State? Florida and Georgia? I never thought I'd say look to the SEC, but at least they have a fucking clue.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1758067; said:
Lakes Division/Plains Division
Ohio State/Nebraska
Michigan/Minnesota*
Michigan State/Wisconsin
Penn State/Iowa*
Indiana/Purdue*
Illinois/Northwestern*

Competitiveness: A- (79)
Rivalries: A+ (100)
Geography: A+ (95)

Overall: A+ (96)
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You've got Northwestern and Wisconsin, two schools that rest on lake shores in the 'plains' division. That's a no go from the gitgo.:biggrin:
 
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Piney;1758038; said:
The obvious...
Ohio State v Michigan
Iowa v Minnesota (same division)
Purdue v Indiana (same division)

The other 3 matchups?
Nebraska v Wisconsin
Northwestern v Illinois
MSU v Penn State
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Ohio State/Michigan, Penn State/Michigan State and Purdue/Indiana are given during the final week.

I think in this scenario what you do is make Nebraska/Iowa another season ender and have one hell of a Novemeber in the BigTen. Minnesota/Wisconsin and Illinois/Northwestern are not final game rivalries so you switch them off with one another and you're all set.
 
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Jaxbuck;1758057; said:
B10 division is locked up, no shot at a NC and the B10CG winner will be the only BCS team from the B10. Pryor has a tweaked hammy he's been fighting all year. He could go but an extra week of rest would ensure he's as close to 100% as he can be for the game that really "matters".

What do you do?
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Its freaking michigan, he plays his ass off till we are up 28-0 and sits on the bench.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1758076; said:
Ohio State/Michigan, Penn State/Michigan State and Purdue/Indiana are given during the final week.

I think in this scenario what you do is make Nebraska/Iowa another season ender and have one hell of a Novemeber in the BigTen. Minnesota/Wisconsin and Illinois/Northwestern are not final game rivalries so you switch them off with one another and you're all set.
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:huh: Those games are for the Axe and the Tomahawk, right?...seem like good season-enders to me. Don't NW/Illi usually play at the end? And Wiscy/Minnesota sometimes at least?
 
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DallasHusker;1758037; said:
I hope the Big Ten preserves The Game, you're right that the tradition should be respected. But you're a bit out there when you say the old NU-OU rivalry "pales" or paled in comparison, back when it was played. Most independent observers put them on fairly equal planes back then.
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Ah, there are those "independent observers" again, always making sure Nebraska's tradition gets its due!

Sorry, but any rivalry game pales in comparison to the big one called The Game, though I guess seeing such a good one go the way of the dodo could be used as a cautionary tale for the Big Ten powers-that-be.
 
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