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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Report: Missouri hopes to join SEC

The University of Missouri hopes to join the Southeastern Conference but would have preferred an offer from the Big Ten that never came, a school official told The Associated Press.
The person, who is familiar with the discussions involving conference affiliation, spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity because the school has not commented publicly about its intentions.
Missouri hoped to join the Big Ten last year but the league instead chose Nebraska. The university official said the Big Ten remains Missouri's top choice but that conference "has no interest."
"That's what's left," the official said, referring to the SEC.

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-hope-join-sec-had-wanted-big-ten-invite-most

Apparentlty it isn't a done deal.
 
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ScriptOhio;2006420; said:
The University of Missouri hopes to join the Southeastern Conference but would have preferred an offer from the Big Ten that never came, a school official told The Associated Press.
The person, who is familiar with the discussions involving conference affiliation, spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity because the school has not commented publicly about its intentions.
Missouri hoped to join the Big Ten last year but the league instead chose Nebraska. The university official said the Big Ten remains Missouri's top choice but that conference "has no interest."
"That's what's left," the official said, referring to the SEC.

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-hope-join-sec-had-wanted-big-ten-invite-most

Apparentlty it isn't a done deal.
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ESPN putting out a column that rules out the B1G... ?

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bigdog3300;2005988; said:
The purpose of expansion is maximizing on market share; TCU doesn't offer much in that department. Now for the Big East they made great sense, but the Big 12 doesn't have many options in their region so they look towards more national schools, something like what an Air Force can offer.
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The purpose of Big XII expansion is not TV markets, it's survival/preserving the fiefdom.
 
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A couple of past proposed 'super conferences' that never got off the ground

Circa 1959:

(The PAC 8 powers)
Washington
Cal
USC
UCLA
Stanford
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Notre Dame
Penn
Penn State
Duke
Georgia Tech
Army
Navy
Air Force


McGrath: Airplane Conference never got off the ground

How crazy has it gotten during this musical chairs game of college conferences?

Well, put it this way: I have obtained information about a plan to align five Pac-10 stalwarts with the three service academies and five other universities east of the Mississippi River. According to the proposal, Washington, California, USC, UCLA and Stanford represent the West Coast in the new league, with Notre Dame, Penn, Penn State, Duke, Georgia Tech, Army, Navy and Air Force also in the mix.

I'm not sure how the scheduling would work, or why Penn and Duke are involved -- do those schools even recognize football? -- but the proposal has generated enough momentum that the league even has a name: The Airplane Conference.

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Circa 1990:

(Old Metro Conf)
Cincinnati
Florida State
Louisville
Memphis State
South Carolina
Southern Miss
Tulane
Virginia Tech
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Boston College
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia
East Carolina
Miami


History lesson: Super-conference concept rooted in 1990 proposal

The idea was to create a super conference of 16 schools overlapping states from the Northeast through the South. Eventually, according to this plan, there would be four super conferences that blanketed the country, and their champions would come together in a playoff to decide the national champ in college football.

?Developing the Super Conference? was the name of the booklet that first proposed the idea in 1990, and its 240 pages held the future of college athletics. It?s just that no one knew how long it would take to get there.

That plan, the first to suggest the super-conference model as the best way to maximize a league?s value, was written by Charlotte-based Raycom Sports for the now-defunct Metro Conference. From that, the concept of a super conference and its merits were born. Based on where conference expansion now appears to be headed, it was an idea well ahead of its time.

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kn1f3party;2006601; said:
This. Missouri is a great choice for #14 or #16, not #13 or #15.
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Missouri was one of my choices in the thread's original poll; however, in hindsight, they are only a great choice is they bring additional value (i.e. more money to everyone) to the league. Regardless of popular belief "bigger is not always better" at least not for conferences. :biggrin:

Good article (dated September 29, 2011) from BIG RED where Delany sums up his position. (In case you haven't already read it):

Delany: Big Ten's content for now

http://www.omaha.com/article/20110929/BIGRED/709299779

IMHO, he's made all the right decisions so far so (as they say) "Trust the [strike]coaches[/strike] commissioner."

Remember it's all bout the money. Greed is good.

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korchiki;2006650; said:
Love the quote that the B1G had no interest and the SEC was the only other option. haha
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:lol:

Another article I read started neutral, but by the time they were finished you could tell the position was "if they didn't want us first them screw them, we're too good for them." The excuses ranged from calling them the SEC's Boston College of the ACC to we don't need relevance in the StL / KC markets.

They have pride issues down there.
 
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Ruh-roh. For whom else can Mizzou lift up its skirt?

CBS

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

According to a report from the Birmingham News, Missouri may not have the support needed to join the SEC after all.

The News's Jon Solomon reported Thursday morning that the "majority" of conference presidents and ADs would support the Tigers' application to become the league's 14th team, but that that majority "falls just short of the nine votes required" to give Missouri final approval.

According to Solomon's sources, those opposed to Missouri's membership have two points of contention. The first is that the SEC can simply "do better" than the Tigers. The other is that adding a team to the SEC West rather than East would disrupt the league's scheduling and rivalries.

The debate has reportedly led to a split between Auburn and Alabama, with the Crimson Tide opposed to Missouri's application and their in-state rivals in favor. Adding Missouri would almost certainly shift Auburn to the East division, restoring the Tigers' traditional annual rivalries with Tennessee and Florida, but potentially scuttling the Tide's yearly "Third Saturday in October" grudge match with the Volunteers. (With only one annual "cross-division" game on the schedule, Alabama couldn't play both Tennessee and Auburn with both in the East, at least not without a nine-game conference schedule.)

As noted by Solomon, Missouri's application won't be helped by an anonymous official telling the Associated Press Wednesday that the SEC would be the Tigers' second choice after the Big Ten. The public admission that Missouri might look elsewhere if the Big Ten asked them to surely won't sit well with a league that -- surely -- can find other partners that would be 100 percent committed.

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