Buckeye Maniac;1630529; said:
Couldn't disagree more. The increase in cotton farming and plantation life in the American south after 1790 is a crucial part of the cultural legacy of Dixie.
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Couldn't disagree more. The increase in cotton farming and plantation life in the American south after 1790 is a crucial part of the cultural legacy of Dixie.
Woody1968;1630592; said:
Everyone is right. Several studies of culture have shown that Texas culture leans West, South, and Midwest.
Here is a link to the 9 nations study that became the basis of Lynn Kahle's work on defining cultural regions in the US.
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Buckeye Maniac
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Woody1968;1630592; said:
All Southern states grow cotton, but not all cotton growing states are Southern...or something like that. The fact that they grow cotton is due to geography, not culture.
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MaxBuck
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Not sure what you mean by "revisionist history," but Virginia today bears little resemblance to the true Deep South. Most of the state owes obeisance to Washington DC.Woody1968;1630422; said:
Again, I think you have never lived in the South, or you wouldn't be making the comments you do. Regardless, whether or not Virginia is "Deep South" has nothing to do with how well the University of Texas would fit into the Big Ten.
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glenn
i dance like a mover
bad news, guys.
i've had a change of heart and no longer feel like texas should head your direction.
i mean if the big ten's premier team this year can't beat oregon, the whole thing just loses a lot of luster for me. i'm sure you understand.
huh? look again? oh. my bad. i was looking at the rankings not the score. we're back on. : )
congrats for a nice win over a good team! part 1 of the sec/pac-10 beatdown is in the books.
in honor of your accomplishment, i dug out some pics i shot of the shoe last year when i was passing through. i was short on time and the pics show it, but a little spiffing and they turned out better than i thought they would. well, ok, the digging out pics isn't so hot an honor, but i'm not through. i uploaded them onto my panoramio page, so they will show up on google earth and google maps in a few weeks . . . if you like them.
i'll give you the links to them, so give me thumbs up/down to tell me if they should stay. i am happy to oblige. after all, it is your honor. you can click the pic after the page loads and see the full-size photo. it should load an image that should size according to your screen, but click that and you get the whole inch-a-lotta.
you guys are welcome to download the shoe pics for your personal use if you like.
also, i spoke yesterday of a shot of ernie davis' headstone that find-a-grave deleted when they s-canned me. i uploaded it, too, and am including that link. really torques me that they did that.
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anyway, congrats on a great win. was really good to see.
more: like i said these aren't memorable shots. i just wanted to catch the flavor of the place before i buzzed on. don't expect to see that much.
the ernie davis shot was a good one. i wish it hadn't been raining so i could have gotten closer. the memorial day flowers would have shown up better.
i've had a change of heart and no longer feel like texas should head your direction.
i mean if the big ten's premier team this year can't beat oregon, the whole thing just loses a lot of luster for me. i'm sure you understand.
huh? look again? oh. my bad. i was looking at the rankings not the score. we're back on. : )
congrats for a nice win over a good team! part 1 of the sec/pac-10 beatdown is in the books.
in honor of your accomplishment, i dug out some pics i shot of the shoe last year when i was passing through. i was short on time and the pics show it, but a little spiffing and they turned out better than i thought they would. well, ok, the digging out pics isn't so hot an honor, but i'm not through. i uploaded them onto my panoramio page, so they will show up on google earth and google maps in a few weeks . . . if you like them.
i'll give you the links to them, so give me thumbs up/down to tell me if they should stay. i am happy to oblige. after all, it is your honor. you can click the pic after the page loads and see the full-size photo. it should load an image that should size according to your screen, but click that and you get the whole inch-a-lotta.
you guys are welcome to download the shoe pics for your personal use if you like.
also, i spoke yesterday of a shot of ernie davis' headstone that find-a-grave deleted when they s-canned me. i uploaded it, too, and am including that link. really torques me that they did that.
shoe north
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shoe north detail
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shoe south
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shoe south detail
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ernie davis
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anyway, congrats on a great win. was really good to see.
more: like i said these aren't memorable shots. i just wanted to catch the flavor of the place before i buzzed on. don't expect to see that much.
the ernie davis shot was a good one. i wish it hadn't been raining so i could have gotten closer. the memorial day flowers would have shown up better.
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Thanks for the link. Time to finish the beatdown next thursday and then bring your title-winning selves to a more worthy conference :cheers:
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glenn
i dance like a mover
that's an interesting map, steve. bet the book is, too.
looking at texas there, i disagree a little bit with how far the breadbasket region comes down. my mother lives very near the southeast corner of new mexico, and there isn't much but pump jacks and scorpions down that far. very bleak country. not classical desert, but very arid. slide that up maybe 100 miles and i can agree.
the map does back up what several of us have been saying about how diverse the state is. the geography, too. it must be hard to govern a state so large and so diverse physically, culturally, and economically. maybe that explains some of our difficulties.
looking at texas there, i disagree a little bit with how far the breadbasket region comes down. my mother lives very near the southeast corner of new mexico, and there isn't much but pump jacks and scorpions down that far. very bleak country. not classical desert, but very arid. slide that up maybe 100 miles and i can agree.
the map does back up what several of us have been saying about how diverse the state is. the geography, too. it must be hard to govern a state so large and so diverse physically, culturally, and economically. maybe that explains some of our difficulties.
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glenn
i dance like a mover
that is interesting, max. like there is an epicenter of southness and the farther outlying parts are the least south. actually what is happening is what happens all along the coast. coastal georgia is very different from the interior, and the same is true in texas.
no, muck, i guess we all pretty much expect that, but i still had the expectation that a new york cop would exhibit less of it, not more.
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no, mu, you know it improves it. he really did look good. i had to rub my eyes a couple of times to be sure it wasn't vince. he really does look like him, including the way he throws. some tried to knock vince's throwing motion, but come on, the kid wins with it. i think it is a product of how he plays. as he's running toward the line he's looking downfield. if somebody breaks off a receiver to intercept him, the dart like motion allows him to quickly hit the receiver and if the guy stays with the receiver, he picks a place to run. i think terrelle does that, too.
it's good to see him looking so good. we horns loved vince and the way he tore defenses apart and want to see terrelle do the same. we like that kind of qb.
no, muck, i guess we all pretty much expect that, but i still had the expectation that a new york cop would exhibit less of it, not more.
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no, mu, you know it improves it. he really did look good. i had to rub my eyes a couple of times to be sure it wasn't vince. he really does look like him, including the way he throws. some tried to knock vince's throwing motion, but come on, the kid wins with it. i think it is a product of how he plays. as he's running toward the line he's looking downfield. if somebody breaks off a receiver to intercept him, the dart like motion allows him to quickly hit the receiver and if the guy stays with the receiver, he picks a place to run. i think terrelle does that, too.
it's good to see him looking so good. we horns loved vince and the way he tore defenses apart and want to see terrelle do the same. we like that kind of qb.
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MaxBuck;1632705; said:
I've lived in both Virginia and Louisiana. The DC suburbs make up only a small part of Virginia, btw.
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glenn
i dance like a mover
wow. the google earth people have already been by and approved the stadium shots and the pic of ernie davis' gravestone. i've never known them to move so fast. also, i felt sure they wouldn't allow the headstone shot since there is no terrain showing. it's the luck of the draw. sometimes i get a reviewer who allows more than another will allow. really pleased. i think i'll work up my other elmira shots (not the graveside rites one, of course) and see how it fares.
you can already see the pics on panoramio.com. enter 'ohio stadium' in the search field and chose between columbus and columbus. (huh?) when it's loaded, click on 'Also show photos not selected for Google Earth'. (these are selected but won't show up on google earth for several weeks.) zoom in closer and the icon for one of the north end pics is a little ways into the parking lot and one of the south pics is smaller a little south of that entrance. you can only see those two pics on the panoramio site.
google maps will also display the pics in a few weeks, but you have to select More.../Photos.
i like two of these shots better than the other two, but maybe the other two show some detail worth keeping around. if anybody particularly thinks i should drop any of the four photos, please say so soon. before google earth incorporates them. and don't worry that my feelings might take a beating. i'm a much more harsh critic of what i do than other people seem to be, and i don't feel at all funny about s-canning a photo.
you can already see the pics on panoramio.com. enter 'ohio stadium' in the search field and chose between columbus and columbus. (huh?) when it's loaded, click on 'Also show photos not selected for Google Earth'. (these are selected but won't show up on google earth for several weeks.) zoom in closer and the icon for one of the north end pics is a little ways into the parking lot and one of the south pics is smaller a little south of that entrance. you can only see those two pics on the panoramio site.
google maps will also display the pics in a few weeks, but you have to select More.../Photos.
i like two of these shots better than the other two, but maybe the other two show some detail worth keeping around. if anybody particularly thinks i should drop any of the four photos, please say so soon. before google earth incorporates them. and don't worry that my feelings might take a beating. i'm a much more harsh critic of what i do than other people seem to be, and i don't feel at all funny about s-canning a photo.
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