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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Crump's brother said:
What a clash of cultures for the bay area schools. All of Palo Alto would be appalled at 10,000 West Virginians in their city.
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I'm in for this. Sooooooo fuuuuuuucking in. Jesus, baby... make this happen. Stanford will play along nicely on the surface for the first half hour and then they will lose their ability to filter. Berkeley, not a chance they last that long.


In fairness, I'm not sure that I would be much different than the Berkeley folks.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
I'm in for this. Sooooooo fuuuuuuucking in. Jesus, baby... make this happen. Stanford will play along nicely on the surface for the first half hour and then they will lose their ability to filter. Berkeley, not a chance they last that long.


In fairness, I'm not sure that I would be much different than the Berkeley folks.
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Just imagining a bunch of WVU fans storming campus looking for a couch to burn, streams of Red Man spit all over electric cars...yeah, it would be great.
 
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ScriptOhio said:




Tell Chip Kelly that's what UCLA did when they opted to join the B1G. Conference TV contracts is one reason the big schools want conferences; the conference schools with the lucrative TV deals get more money.
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Yeah, he is missing that part but he's on the right track with football being treated differently. If they head down that path and quit trying to graft the old model onto the new realities it would be better.

Let's face it though, when there are tens to hundreds of millions of dollars on the table the school Presidents and Commissioners don't really giving a flying fuck about how much the women's field hockey team has to travel. What they are doing right now is the surest way to get the money so the non revenue sports are just going to have to deal with whatever comes of it.
 
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CincyInterloper said:
Narcissistic, Machiavellian, and sociopathic, Texas was a cancer in the Big-12. I’m glad they didn’t move to the B1G. We‘ll see if the SEC can keep them in line.
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That is the exciting part of this realignment nonsense. I cannot wait to hear the SEC leaks of telling Texas to sit down and color next to Vandy and Missouri.
 
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ScriptOhio said:

Stanford and Cal reportedly exploring the possibility of joining the Big 12​

Another option for the remains four Pac-12 schools has surfaced

We are well aware of the Pac-12's embracing collapse, but there are still four programs left looking for a home.

Stanford and Cal are in a peculiar position because in one sense they control what Oregon State and Washington State are able to do, but in the other they are also left waiting and hoping. The two Bay Area programs have been linked to the ACC for a couple weeks now, and while they were just one vote short and there have been financial plans discussed to add them, they have not yet been invited. The clear cut vibes coming from the two programs is that they want to be in a Power 5 program, but they need that interest to be reciprocated.

On Saturday, we learned via a report from the San Francisco Chronicle that Stanford and Cal have begun looking into the possibility of joining the Big 12. The conference has already taken in four other Pac-12 programs, and has been one of the main aggressors in this latest realignment wave.

The report indicated that if Stanford and Cal aren't invited to the ACC invites by the middle of next week, that their discussions with the Big 12 will get that much more serious. If they do end up heading towards the Big 12 option, Michael Silver of the SF Chronicle also reported that Oregon State and Washington State would also be joining them as well.

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/stanford...ploring-the-possibility-of-joining-the-big-12

Bleacher Report: Cal, Stanford Could Land with Big 12 Under New Scenario If ACC Talks Fail

The Big 12 is attempting to make a late play for California and Stanford as the two schools continue to negotiate a potential move to the ACC.

Per Michael Silver of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Big 12 "has surfaced" as a potential landing spot for Cal and Stanford which would also open up the possibility for the other remaining Pac-12 schools (Oregon State and Washington State) to join the conference.

Amid a wave of recent Pac-12 defections, the future of the conference is very much uncertain. USC and UCLA announced last year they would be joining the Big Ten starting in 2024.

In the span of eight days from July 27 to Aug. 4, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah all announced they were leaving the Pac-12 for the Big 12 in 2024. The incoming schools will help offset the loss of Oklahoma and Texas, who are going to the SEC starting next year.

This has left the four remaining Pac-12 schools to figure out what the next step is going to be. One of the main issues for the conference is its media rights deals. The current deals with ESPN and Fox are set to expire after the 2023-24 athletic season.

Per Oregon athletic insider John Canzano, the Pac-12 rejected an offer from ESPN that would have paid each school $30 million, but the conference wanted $50 million and the network walked away.

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Logo for sale or rent, games to lose - fifty-cent, we got a league that ain’t worth a shit, teams alookin for a chance o split. We’re a league of means by no means, kings gone rogue.
 
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The ACC has a meeting to discuss adding Cal, Stanford, and SMU today. They need one of UNC, NCST, FSU, or Clemson to change their vote. It doesn't look like UNC will change:

apnews.com

With ACC leaders set to take up Stanford, Cal, SMU expansion, 2 UNC trustees announce opposition

With Atlantic Coast Conference university leaders seemingly on the verge of deciding whether to expand with Stanford, California and SMU, two members of North Carolina’s board of trustees announced their opposition to the move.
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With ACC leaders set to take up Stanford, Cal, SMU expansion, 2 UNC trustees announce opposition​


“The strong majority of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill’s Board of Trustees opposes the proposed expansion of the Atlantic Coast Conference to include Stanford University, the University of California, Berkeley, and Southern Methodist University,” chairman David L. Boliek Jr. and vice chair John P. Preyer said.

“Although we respect the academic excellence and the athletic programs of those institutions, the travel distances for routine in-conference competitive play are too great for this arrangement to make sense for our student athletes, coaches, alumni and fans. Furthermore, the economics of this newly imagined transcontinental conference do not sufficiently address the income disparity ACC members face. Without ironclad assurances that the proposed expansion serves the interest of UNC-Chapel Hill, we believe it should be voted down.”

The ACC has been weighing expansion for several weeks. The presidents and chancellors were scheduled to hold a call Monday night to delve into expansion, but the deadly shooting of a professor at the University of North Carolina led the conference to put its business on hold. ESPN first reported Friday’s rescheduled call.

The presidents discussed adding schools three weeks ago but chose not to take a vote, knowing they likely didn’t have 12 of the 15 votes necessary for approval. Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina and North Carolina State have been against adding schools.
 
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