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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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SECPN has been too big for their britches for at least a decade and a half, if not more. They've been gaslighting the country for years into believing that college football world revolves around the specific conferences that they control. The Big Ten decoupling right now from that network is happening at the best time possible... when the B1G has never been worth more monetarily and on the heels of the USC/UCLA news

I'm cautious about NBC because I want nothing to do with Notre Dame. But the idea of partnering with CBS after crushing it with their coverage of college football down south since at least the 90's is a real boon. And for the only major coast to coast conference to be seen exclusively on 3 of the 4 major national TV stations in Fox, CBS, & NBC... that is a power play with potential marketing gold... and you dont even need a cable box to see thr majority of it. A deal with those 3 is only going to make the brand worth more with those networks and brains behind it

ESPN's model for broadcasting in the streaming age is dying and behind the times. People are looking for a reason to decouple from their network (and cable), if they haven't already. Losing the biggest ratings in the sport to your competition is a tremendous blow to them

With all of that said though, ESPN's got 2 things to fight it... 1) the gaslighting information war that they've been battling within the sport in the favor of the conferences that they control, and 2) the rights they have to the CFB playoff that are expiring soon. It'll be really interesting to see how they play their cards. I'm hoping the majority of sports fans will see right through it
 
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dragurd said:
It was rates. Out of B1G area btn was getting like 20 cents per subscriber where they were getting in network 1.50-2.00
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exactly. All the NYC/NJ/Upstate folks who were subscribing for other reasons or already watching were suddenly wildly more valuable. A fashionista that wanted bravo is now lining the pockets of Kirk Ferenrz.

In the first year as Big Ten members (2014) according to Berkowitz, the conference recorded $448.8 million in total revenue for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2015. This represented a $110 million increase.
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jwinslow said:
exactly. All the NYC/NJ/Upstate folks who were subscribing for other reasons or already watching were suddenly wildly more valuable. A fashionista that wanted bravo is now lining the pockets of Kirk Ferenrz.
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In addition to the higher carriage fee, it also increases the base paying those fees as an in-market team usually pushes the network onto the basic cable tier, meaning they get the higher fee for every single subscriber instead of only those on higher tier plans. If there's actually a lot more people watching as a result, that's a bonus for their ad sales.
 
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Abenaki said:
The good: no more ESPN.

The bad: Ohio State at Rutgers, this Saturday on Peacock Premium!

Wait till they lose half or so or the playoffs.
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They are doing the tier 2/3 rights and one game per week and should be on cbs with simulcast on peacock. They get their investment back by getting the best game they can and selling ads. Plus get some streaming subs from people without cable/antenna.
The nice thing is we will be able to see the top 3 games every week on broadcast. The 2-3 games per year OSU is on fs1 or BTN I can head to a bar.
If I have to buy peacock or paramount $5 each per month, then I can just drop hbo during the football season since I bounce subscriptions anyhow.
Unlike ESPN where you need a fucking cable subscription to see it. SEC will only get the top game each week on abc with a couple of other decent ones at noon and 3:30, but the 2nd best game is on cable with no ability to stream. If you’re a Bama fan more than half of your games are on a dying service.
 
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So, how far are we from pay-to-view sports? More money has been answered in the past by adding more commercials, but this is a product that's already losing the youth market due to length and short attention spans. One way to avoid four hour games wouid be to shorten playing time to allow time for the commercials. Fewer time outs, fewer out of bounds stops, eliminate the stop on incomplete passes, OR pay to view w/wo commercials.
 
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