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Bucky32;2278455; said:Somebody with some time on their hands: run those models.
Well I mean think back to the mid-90s Missouri - they were good enough to pull of an upset each year, but they weren't quite at Ohio State's level as we saw. Maybe they beat scUM once that would have ruined a rematch? Who knows.
What you did have was Northwestern getting lucky and avoiding Ohio State in those years. BTW they beat Michigan both years, just to blow up HF's idea that they got a free pass
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If you are Delany and having to deal with the realities of the current state of B1G football, you can only reasonably bet on scUM and OSU to be your bell cows.
Hoke and Meyer are in place and out recruiting the other programs by a wide margin. The upheaval of RR and Tatgate are over so I think while anything can happen, the most likely year in year out contenders for the 2 divisions as they currently stand are scUM and OSU.
What is the upside in betting on anyone else?
Hoke and Meyer are in place and out recruiting the other programs by a wide margin. The upheaval of RR and Tatgate are over so I think while anything can happen, the most likely year in year out contenders for the 2 divisions as they currently stand are scUM and OSU.
What is the upside in betting on anyone else?
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HorseshoeFetish
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Mike80;2278460; said:What you did have was Northwestern getting lucky and avoiding Ohio State in those years. BTW they beat Michigan both years, just to blow up HF's idea that they got a free pass
Are you serious? Are you talking 95? How can you blow up my theory when I think you should have to at least beat 1 of the 2 to win your division..which they did. And if I'm not mistaken, had a Championship game been played back then they would have had to beat tOSU to win it. That scenario plays exactly into how I think a BIG championship should be earned.
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HorseshoeFetish;2278483; said:
Yet it still wasn't a free pass. Look at the schedules everyone plays. Even with my divisions, the only teams that don't have a truly brutal schedule in division are Ohio State and Michigan.
Do you know how the SEC maintained all of this damn hype? Because their divisions are so evenly balanced both with name teams and team performance in bowl games that when their teams are 4-0 they are going to be ranked. You want more than just 2 teams to be considered "good" in the Big Ten. Splitting up Ohio State and Michigan, in your view, would limit the Big Ten to that view. Keep Ohio State and MIchigan together (much like UGA/Florida), put the Pedsters/Nebraska/Wisconsin/Sparty in the other and hope they go 11-1, 10-2 or something like that going into the Big Ten title game so it looks like Ohio State is beating a different good team (like the SEC title game this year, UGA isn't THAT good) instead of beating scUM again. Remember how the media plays this game and that's what drives the polls - beat as many DIFFERENT good teams as possible. In this scenario, the Division 1 would be the SEC West, and Division 2 would be the SEC East.
I'd put them in the same division. Seriously. Even though they should have been taken out entirely, the Pedsters aren't going to fall as far as they should, Nebby is a sane coach away from being a player and if Wisconsin hires the right coach they aren't going to stop being a perennial 9-3ish team. The BIG needs to achieve balance through having other teams rise up instead of splitting up the kings.
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HorseshoeFetish;2278483; said:
BTW it wasn't just 1995, it was 1996 as well.
And 2000 if you really want to go deeper into it. But Ohio State in 2000 wasn't good enough to make it into any title game anyway.
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HorseshoeFetish;2278433; said:
The Coaches Poll started awarding National Championships in 1950.
Total finishes at #1 in the final Coaches Poll:
Nebraska - 4
tOSU - 3
TSUN - ZERO
Nebraska also has won more conference titles (43) than either TSUN (42) or tOSU (35), although none since 1999.
Nebraska wasn't a great all-time team before 1962, but TSUN hasn't exactly been an all-time great team since 1950. Their historical stats are inflated by what happened before World War I.
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BB73;2278782; said:
I think a lot of people want to compare Nebraska to Penn State when it comes to joining the B1G. The two are not similar at all. While Nebraska has been down for about 10 years, their dominance in the 70s, 80s, and 90s was real, where as PSU's record was inflated by playing cream puffs, and having crooked refs. Go back and look at the 1996 Fiesta bowl against Spurrier's Florida squad.
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ScriptOhio
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Re: Source: Notre Dame, ACC safe from another Big Ten raid for now
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One source said all the major conferences are within $500,000 of each other, hovering around the $20 million mark per year in annual per-school payout. However, estimates for a future Big Ten have gone as high as $40 million per school when its primary TV rights are renegotiated by 2016.
Entire article: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...m-another-big-ten-raid-for-foreseeable-future
It's all about the money.
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One source said all the major conferences are within $500,000 of each other, hovering around the $20 million mark per year in annual per-school payout. However, estimates for a future Big Ten have gone as high as $40 million per school when its primary TV rights are renegotiated by 2016.
Entire article: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...m-another-big-ten-raid-for-foreseeable-future
It's all about the money.
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