Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Jaxbuck]

If it were UVA and UNC, imagine for a moment the severity of the pounding PSU and Rutgers are looking at in hoops every winter. Like it wasn't bad enough already.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

We're going to 20 right?

18? 8 division games, 1 B1G cross-dvisional and 3 non-conference?

 

[ohiomarc]

I keep telling people that as well but part of me wonders if Delaney can wrangle academic powerhouses like UVA, UNC & GT if that might be enough to get the COP/C to relent on another academic outlier.

That's my thought too. And I'm not sure it's even necessary to go to 20. He just added two quality academic schools and Ga Tech would be an academic home run, so maybe the PTB would be willing to bend a little for FSU. No they're not AAU yet, but it's not like they're Louisville. IIRC, they rank in the same neighborhood with Nebraska, Illinois and Maryland on most academic metrics and with Indiana and Nebraska in research.

 

[JBaney45]

We're going to 20 right?

Why not 40?

 

[OSU_D/]

18? 8 division games, 1 B1G cross-dvisional and 3 non-conference?

I think it has to be 20 if you go past 16. In the alignment you have, we might as well be in the Big 10 East and never play the teams in the west. At least in the pods of 5 you could play a different pod each year, still get a permanent opponent, and get 3 non-conference.

 

[lvbuckeye]

what are the benefits for all this expansion?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Muck]

Why not 40?

Don't be silly.

 

[JBaney45]

Don't be silly.

More teams..more TV dollars!! That is what matters here after all

 

[Muck]

More teams..more TV dollars!! That is what matters here after all

We're sticking at 24, there aren't 16 more markets to grab.

 

[RugbyBuck]

I think GT is on board. There's nowhere else for them to go and they've always been similar to B1G schools in terms of academics and institutional culture. It's essentially Purdue in Atlanta. They're not going back to the SEC and probably wouldn't want to stay in a watered down ACC.

 

[WolverineMike]

Srsly?

Step 1: Add New Conference members
Step 2: Increase Conference footprint
Step 3: Get BTN in more households
Step 4: ??
Step 5: Profit!

I think the BTN agreement with cable prviders is something like $0.10 per houshold out of footprint states and $0.80 per household within footprint states.

But really, one could argue it's both securing our conference's athletic vitality for the future and strengthening our already great academic standing.

I just didn't know if there was any other reasons other than money.

 

[TooTall]

I just didn't know if there was any other reasons other than money.

I just think there's a push to phase out some of the more irrelevant conferences, Big East being the first victim. I think the Big East will stay around for teams like Louisville, Connecticut, Syracuse, and UC (basketball first schools). The ACC isn't far behind, and if the Big XII doesn't do something soon, they may be the next. Granted, I think the Big XII will sense the urgency and start making moves. Either way, the bigger conferences make for more interesting football, and I like the sound of that, especially with the new sheriff in town.

 

[Muck]

I just didn't know if there was any other reasons other than money.

In Commisar Delaney's words...

As far as the shifting population, that is reason, by itself, enough, to look at the concept of expansion. In the last 20, 30 years, there's been a clear shift in movement into the Sun Belt.

The rates of growth in the Sun Belt are four times the rates they are in the East or the Midwest.

You do want to look forward to 2020 and 2030 and see what that impact would be on our schools.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I just think there's a push to phase out some of the more irrelevant conferences, Big East being the first victim. I think the Big East will stay around for teams like Louisville, Connecticut, Syracuse, and UC (basketball first schools). The ACC isn't far behind, and if the Big XII doesn't do something soon, they may be the next. Granted, I think the Big XII will sense the urgency and start making moves. Either way, the bigger conferences make for more interesting football, and I like the sound of that, especially with the new sheriff in town.

I don't think the XII is in any danger now. It was always a question of who would be odd man out between the ACC and the XII were there be the move to 4 superconferences. Delaney just answered that question for everyone.....though Texas fan will never in a million years give credit where credit is due.

My guess is that is eventually where the domers end up. They're just too much of a cancer for us to deal with. Regardless of any legal status as a purely equal member of a conference, you just fucking know that they will start stirring up shit and causing trouble from day fucking one.

Take the domers, FSU, Clemson and Miami. Now the XII is up to 14. Throw in Magic Underwear Aggy along with Slot Machine Aggy (bottom feeder but decent basketball, decent television market and good road trip for fans) or Colorado State to give them a rival, and they're at 16.

 

[TooTall]

I don't think the XII is in any danger now. It was always a question of who would be odd man out between the ACC and the XII were there be the move to 4 superconferences. Delaney just answered that question for everyone.....though Texas fan will never in a million years give credit where credit is due.

My guess is that is eventually where the domers end up. They're just too much of a cancer for us to deal with. Regardless of any legal status as a purely equal member of a conference, you just fucking know that they will start stirring up shit and causing trouble from day fucking one.

Take the domers, FSU, Clemson and Miami. Now the XII is up to 14. Throw in Magic Underwear Aggy along with Slot Machine Aggy (bottom feeder but decent basketball, decent television market and good road trip for fans) or Colorado State to give them a rival, and they're at 16.

Good points. Where does that leave teams like Miami, BC, UNC, Duke? To the Big East to re-vamp their already stellar basketball conference?