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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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buckeyegrad;2266533; said:
Oh, I expect the fines to be several million, which will be huge as the largest Clery act fine has only been around $600,000 against Eastern Michigan for covering up a murder on their campus. I'm just saying the ED will not take away the right to receive federal student loan funding.
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We'll see....

I have a friend who works for the Attorney General's office in DC and he's a Penn State grad as well. He has said he isn't so sure Penn State is going to be a viable university after all is said and done but he wouldn't go into details.

He's also been one of the very few who has completely turned against Pedterno. He's an anti-cultist :biggrin:
 
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Nicknam4;2266519; said:
Anyone else in favor of changing the name of the Big Ten Conference to something without a number? Big 14 (perhaps soon to be Big 16) just doesn't sound that cool. It tells you nothing of the conference other than how many members it has, unlike the SEC, PAC, ACC, MAC, Mountain West, WAC, and the Sun Belt.

All I can think of is something like the Big North Conference (BNC! BNC! BNC!) or the Mid-West Conference. (Not too applicable with PSU, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers)
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[BWI]Why would they ever do that? All the new schools aren't really going to be accepted anyways. If they change it, they should change it to the Big Two conference since that's what it really is. 409 4EVER! [/BWI]
 
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Nicknam4;2266519; said:
Anyone else in favor of changing the name of the Big Ten Conference to something without a number?
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FCollinsBuckeye;2266521; said:
It was, is and forever shall be, the Big Ten.

It'll make more sense when we have two 10 school divisions.
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This. Take the current fourteen, add Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Texas, and Oklahoma, and that would make a nice even twenty.
 
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LordJeffBuck;2266571; said:
This. Take the current fourteen, add Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Texas, and Oklahoma, and that would make a nice even twenty.
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A more realistic final six might be....

Virginia
Duke (in order to get...)
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Pitt (in order to get...)
Notre Dame
 
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LordJeffBuck;2266571; said:
This. Take the current fourteen, add Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Texas, and Oklahoma, and that would make a nice even twenty.
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and move Michigan and Sparty back where they belong. ND can go on either side (probably the west).
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2266388; said:
My point back then was that CIC membership would be much more valuable to non-AAU university like Notre Dame trying to make the jump to AAU election than an existing member like UVA or UNC.
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I understand that, and my comment wasn't meant as a rebuttal to you. I wanted to discuss the issue because I've seen quite a few people on multiple boards tout the CIC as if it were some kind of research funding goldmine, and I don't think it is. It seems to me that the scope and impact of the collaboration is fairly limited. I used your post as a jumping-off point for this discussion only because your post was one of the first hits that came up when I ran a message body search for "CIC".

To your point, though, I think it is plausible that ND could benefit from CIC membership moreso than, say UVA would, because ND lacks the physical resources of the big research schools. But still, if some reasonably qualified lab at ND today wanted to use OSU's 800 MHz NMR for example, they'd probably be able to if they contacted the right people. Maybe BigTen/CIC membership would make it easier or less expensive for them to do so, I don't know.
 
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Greg Swaim tweeted last night that the UVA & UNC (2 B1G) rumors are heating up in ACC land.

LordJeffBuck;2266579; said:
The only way I take Pitt is if it somehow guarantees Notre Dame.

Ditto for Duke and UNC.
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Which is what I said.

Although I would also take Pitt if humanity gets lucky and PSU is obliterated.

Also a UNC/Duke pairing would help in controlling the state of NC over an SEC bound NC State. So I wouldn't mind a UNC/Duke duo even if UNC would have come alone.

Academically Duke is a home run and it a research powerhouse. That being said, taking Duke alone? Not a twinkies chance in Hoke's office.
 
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Nicknam4;2266519; said:
Anyone else in favor of changing the name of the Big Ten Conference to something without a number? Big 14 (perhaps soon to be Big 16) just doesn't sound that cool. It tells you nothing of the conference other than how many members it has, unlike the SEC, PAC, ACC, MAC, Mountain West, WAC, and the Sun Belt.

All I can think of is something like the Big North Conference (BNC! BNC! BNC!) or the Mid-West Conference. (Not too applicable with PSU, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers)
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I nominate "THE Fuck You Conference", or tFU for short.
 
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In relation to Notre Dame and the AAU, I thought that Notre Dame didn't want any part of the AAU because of the organization's stance on abortion or stem cell research or something.

Isn't it something along those lines?

I'm sure the school could've gotten admitted by now (if they wanted to).
 
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Muck;2266596; said:
Also a UNC/Duke pairing would help in controlling the state of NC over an SEC bound NC State. So I wouldn't mind a UNC/Duke duo even if UNC would have come alone.
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Expanding on this a bit...

Right now conventional wisdom seems to be:

UVA & UNC to B1G
VPI & NC State to SEC

So far I haven't really seen anyone touch on what the long term effects of having the SEC/B1G split up NC & VA would look like.

Does taking the two academically stronger schools actually end up working to the B1G's disadvantage in the long run?
 
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