Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Dryden]

I guess my question is if the University of Virginia, Georgia Tech, and UNC come to the Big 10 and Florida State goes to the SEC or some other conference which schools are going to share the $50 mil bye-bye fee because there won't be much of a ACC left:)

Given the state of their Athletics Dept, I think Miami should just hang around until they wind up with all $650m in exit money from the other 13 teams, then drop sports and use the cash for hookers and blow.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

My point here isn't to disparage the CIC. But I get the impression that some (and I'm not directing this at ORD - he likely knows more about the CIC than I do), have an outsized view of what the CIC does, and what the advantages of membership are.

My point back then was that CIC membership would be much more valuable to non-AAU university like Notre Dame trying to make the jump to AAU election than an existing member like UVA or UNC.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Neil Armstrong and Gus Grissom hate you posthumously.

fify

 

[Oh8ch]

Au contraire. Haven't you been reading your mid-major boards.

1. Big schools attempt to go to 4 superconferences.
2. NCAA attempts to split off the have-nots from the superconferences.
3. NCAA/Superconferences get their ass handed to them in anti-trust lawsuit.
4. All conferences made equal and full national revenue sharing follows.

I think you are overlooking the UN role in all of this.

 

[JCOSU86]

And he went to college at Purdue.

OK, that makes sense then.

Purdue is actually the Indiana land grant university.

That I did not know.

 

[buckeyegrad]

Purdue is actually the Indiana land grant university.

Which raises the interesting question of which is the "flagship" university of the state. I could see either Indiana or Purdue claiming that title...though perhaps Indiana gets the nod by being the older, larger university with the state's name.

Or we go with IUPUI.

 

[Muck]

Probably the same place you go with an 11-team league ...

Nothing wrong fundamentally with having an odd number of teams, even if the number is prime.

Sit down & put together a conference schedule for a 17 team league.

It's not quite as simple as you imply.

The DOE monitors and enforces the Clery Act, and the DOE cares about both then and now, as well as the future. While civil penalties are likely to occur (because of then), it is highly doubtful the DOE would bring the hammer down in the sense of denying federal student aid dollars to the institution (due to considerations about now and future).

The Department of Energy gives fuck all about the Clery Act.

You mean ED - the Education Department.

 

[Muck]

dbl fire

 

[Nicknam4]

Anyone else in favor of changing the name of the Big Ten Conference to something without a number? Big 14 (perhaps soon to be Big 16) just doesn't sound that cool. It tells you nothing of the conference other than how many members it has, unlike the SEC, PAC, ACC, MAC, Mountain West, WAC, and the Sun Belt.

All I can think of is something like the Big North Conference (BNC! BNC! BNC!) or the Mid-West Conference. (Not too applicable with PSU, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers)

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Anyone else in favor of changing the name of the Big Ten Conference to something without a number? Big 14 (perhaps soon to be Big 16) just doesn't sound that cool. It tells you nothing of the conference other than how many members it has, unlike the SEC, PAC, or ACC.

All I can think of is something like the Big North Conference (BNC! BNC! BNC!) or the Mid-West Conference. (Not too applicable with PSU, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers)

It was, is and forever shall be, the Big Ten.

It'll make more sense when we have two 10 school divisions.



edit: at least, it was the Big Ten after it was the Western Conference and after it was the Big Nine.

 

[Muck]

Anyone else in favor of changing the name of the Big Ten Conference to something without a number?

They already did.

B1G

 

[buckeyegrad]

The Department of Energy gives [censored] all about the Clery Act.

You mean ED - the Education Department.

My bad. I forgot I wasn't talking to an exclusive group of education professionals (like I do at work), where DoE is used as commonly as ED for the US Department of Education and state departments of education.

 

[Mike80]

The DOE monitors and enforces the Clery Act, and the DOE cares about both then and now, as well as the future. While civil penalties are likely to occur (because of then), it is highly doubtful the DOE would bring the hammer down in the sense of denying federal student aid dollars to the institution (due to considerations about now and future).

We'll see, but if there were 40 acts of rape on campus or something like that, it's going to be very hard for Penn State to get through relatively unscratched....

 

[buckeyegrad]

It was, is and forever shall be, the Big Ten.

I guess if "was, is and forever" only goes back to 1949, you are correct.

 

[buckeyegrad]

We'll see, but if there were 40 acts of rape on campus or something like that, it's going to be very hard for Penn State to get through relatively unscratched....

Oh, I expect the fines to be several million, which will be huge as the largest Clery act fine has only been around $600,000 against Eastern Michigan for covering up a murder on their campus. I'm just saying the ED will not take away the right to receive federal student loan funding.