Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Piney]

Just by having a team in the area/state, the Big Ten network is added to the basic cable package of that region. It doesn't matter how many are watching, they get paid by the number of cable subscribers.

Now, with the Big Ten network available, it is very likely that more people will start watching as well. That is largely irrelevant to the money part of the equation.

That is not necessarily true, that will have to be negotiated before these cable companies try to pass on this expense to their subscribers. It isn't clear the Big Ten will have the leverage to pull this off, obviously they believe that they can.

It all depends on what the contract the BTN signed with the big cable companies. I read somewhere that the BTN could have conceivably put in a clause as simple as this "The states where a Big Ten team is located, the cable company pays X and it must be on basic cable. If a Big Ten team is not located in the state, the rate s Y"

If a clause like that is already in, then the big cable companies in Maryland and New Jersey AUTOMATICALLY have to pay the higher rate and put the BTN on basic without further negotiation.

That would probably apply to most national cable companies the BTN already has contracts with.

Is this true? Maybe... but it would be alot easier if it was

 

[Bucklion]

All I can say is thank God we're finally going to get those Iowa-Rutgers basketball games I have been waiting my whole life for.

 

[Abenaki]

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IgnoreSo since we are moving to the Big 10, are we...Reply going to do that annoying thing they do on the Blue and White illustrated and start sentences in the subject line and continue in the message body? (like i just did)

Maryland and Rutgers are both winning me over with just their message board fans.

 

[CookyPuss]

I'm looking forward to a tOSU-Rutgers game in Yankee Stadium. Can anybody think of a better way to introduce the new B1G to the NYC market?

 

[VBSJ]

I'm looking forward to a tOSU-Rutgers game in Yankee Stadium. Can anybody think of a better way to introduce the new B1G to the NYC market?

Jim Delany and Brutus throwing $20's off the Empire State Building?

People would react wouldn't they?

 

[Woody1968]

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The ACC has to steal someone big rather quickly like Penn St or risk losing their two best teams right after the season. FSU was already mad and after this years treatment by the BCS the writing is on the wall. UF will clock any FSU attempt at the SEC but the B12 would be willing to pay a good part of the exit fee. If FSU goes so will Clemson. Bye Bye ACC.
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Viper, I would not like the move but I think you are right. The ACC should immediate go after the likes of Penn State, Cincy, and Louisville.
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At least we now know where Penn State stands in the minds of the people...

 

[VBSJ]

Nate Silver (of the New York Times and FiveThirtyEight) should know that the Big Ten brand was already in the process of being diluted years ago. Adding Maryland and Rutgers didn't speed up the process or anything.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/expanding-eastward-could-dilute-big-ten-brand/

But the main rationale for adding the schools seems to be economic: the prospect that they would give the Big Ten, and its cable network, access to the New York and Washington, D.C., media markets.

On that account, the decision may be questionable. Although Rutgers and Maryland are in densely populated areas, they also compete against a number of other Division I football programs for fans and attention.

 

[Woody1968]

I'm looking forward to a tOSU-Rutgers game in Yankee Stadium. Can anybody think of a better way to introduce the new B1G to the NYC market?

Yankee Stadium is for baseball, not football. Please, have the game at the meadowlands.

 

[LitlBuck]

I was wondering which college football team controls the Philadelphia TV market or haven't I been listening or reading enough.

 

[Woody1968]

I was wondering which college football team controls the Philadelphia TV market or haven't I been listening or reading enough.

University of Pennsylvania State -Philly Campus. They play in the Ivy League, I think.

[I'm not serious]

 

[jlb1705]

Nate Silver (of the New York Times and FiveThirtyEight) should know that the Big Ten brand was already in the process of being diluted years ago. Adding Maryland and Rutgers didn't speed up the process or anything.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/expanding-eastward-could-dilute-big-ten-brand/

The problem with that analysis is that Silver is counting fans and not cable boxes.

 

[Jaxbuck]

University of Pennsylvania State -Philly Campus. They play in the Ivy League, I think.

[I'm not serious]

Penn is to Penn State as skinny jeans are to Brady Hoke.

The latter fucking wishes.

 

[JBaney45]

It all depends on what the contract the BTN signed with the big cable companies. I read somewhere that the BTN could have conceivably put in a clause as simple as this "The states where a Big Ten team is located, the cable company pays X and it must be on basic cable. If a Big Ten team is not located in the state, the rate s Y"

If a clause like that is already in, then the big cable companies in Maryland and New Jersey AUTOMATICALLY have to pay the higher rate and put the BTN on basic without further negotiation.

That would probably apply to most national cable companies the BTN already has contracts with.

Is this true? Maybe... but it would be alot easier if it was

I highly doubt this is true, it was enough of a push just to get them to carry it in the original Big Ten states originally..the cable companies wouldn't have signed away their rights for further negotiation, they too have people employed smart enough to realize that further expansion was a very real possibility.

 

[Steve19]

I was wondering which college football team controls the Philadelphia TV market or haven't I been listening or reading enough.

Rutgers has a campus about the size of Notre Dame in greater Philly, i.e. Camden NJ.

 

[Dryden]

I highly doubt this is true, it was enough of a push just to get them to carry it in the original Big Ten states originally..the cable companies wouldn't have signed away their rights for further negotiation, they too have people employed smart enough to realize that further expansion was a very real possibility.

Those smart people at the cable co would also recognize you lock-in the rate while the product is untested and least desirable rather than renegotiate after it has established a proven successful business model and expanded its viewer draw across the nation, especially into the mid-atlantic/northeast corridor.