Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[BUCKYLE]

Of all the things I spend time thinking or concerning myself about, the names of the two divisions of the B1G is not among them. I don't care if they call them Maryann and Ginger.

That would be almost as bad as Leaders and Legends. Almost.

 

[BB73]

Looks like the Big East will only have 7 teams in 2012. And sadly, an automatic BCS bid for the winner.

CBS

Boise State: 'too late' for 2012 move to Big East


Boise State announced last December that its impending move to the Big East wouldn't take place until 2013. But with West Virginia still caught in limbo between its old league and its leap to the Big 12, the San Jose Mercury-News's Jon Wilner reported this week that the Broncos might still be considering an offer to step directly into the Mountaineers' scheduling shoes should WVU extricate itself in time for the 2012 season. Boise president Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman Friday that he had "heard those rumors." But he stated firmly that any move for this coming season is already off the table.
"It's too late. I can't imagine how anyone can pull that off," he said. "We would never want to pull it off in a fashion that dealt shabbily with our existing partners in the Mountain West. I don't think that could ever work."
If the Mountaineers succeeded in joining the Big 12 by this fall -- and with a 10-team schedule already released to the conference's television partners, the expectation both in the Big 12 offices and Morgantown is that they will -- the Big East will be set to play out the 2012 season with just seven members: Cincinnati, South Florida, UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, Syracuse and Pitt. (The Orange and Panthers have both announced their intentions to join the ACC and are scheduled to leave in 2014, but both could look to leave next year if the Mountaineers are successful in their attempt to bolt early.)


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[Diego-Bucks]

Looks like the Big East will only have 7 teams in 2012. And sadly, an automatic BCS bid for the winner.

CBS

I'm sorry, there must have been a mistake. There is literally NO mention of my vaunted San Diego State University. I'm sure this was just a print error. No way we get overlooked... No way.

 

[Muck]

I'm sorry, there must have been a mistake. There is literally NO mention of my vaunted San Diego State University. I'm sure this was just a print error. No way we get overlooked... No way.

Isn't the entire school population still in jail on drug charges until 2013?

 

[Diego-Bucks]

Isn't the entire school population still in jail on drug charges until 2013?

Allegedly. It was never PROVEN.. Ok ok, it was proven.

I was in a biochemstry course on campus and my mom (lives in New Albany, OH) texted me saying, "is something big happening at your school right now? Looks like 70+ students got arrested for drug charges..." I heard nothing about it really..

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Ohhh, hope we get Ginger...

You are out of your mind...gimme Dawn "Beanie" Wells all day every day.

 

[BB73]

CBS

Neinas: Big 12 might help WVU pay exit fee

West Virginia and the Big 12 have been adamant for weeks that neither the Big East's legal actions nor the inevitable snafus of last-minute scheduling will keep the Mountaineers out of their new conference digs for the 2012 season. And if the comments of Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas to the West Virginia MetroNews are any indication, the league is willing to put its money where its mouth is. Specifically, Neinas said that if West Virginia needs some financial assistance from the Big 12 in order to pay its exit fee, the league "would talk with WVU about it."
"It would be an internal matter for our Board of Directors to determine," Neinas said. "If West Virginia makes a request, we'll take it to the board."
The exit fee is set at $5 million, but the Big East could likely demand far more to let the Mountaineers wriggle out of the league's pending lawsuit. The sum could be difficult for the Mountaineers to come up with, particularly if the program is also forced to pay damages from a potential scheduling lawsuit from Florida State. It won't help relations between the two sides that Boise State will force the league to proceed with just seven teams in 2012, either.

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[BB73]

CBS

Memphis appears headed to Big East in 2013

Memphis and the Big East Conference are in the final stages of negotiations to make the Tigers an all-sports member of the Big East beginning in 2013, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com. The Tigers would join the Big East with three other Conference USA members - Houston, SMU and UCF - for the 2013-14 school year. The Big East also will add Boise State and San Diego State as football-only members in 2013 and Navy in 2015.
When contacted by CBSSports.com's Gary Parrish about the move to the Big East, Memphis athletic director R.C. Johnson declined comment. An official announcement of the Tigers' move to the Big East could be made as early as this week, sources said.
While the addition of Memphis is for all sports, the Tigers' men's basketball program would help offset the future losses of men?s basketball powers Syracuse, West Virginia and Pittsburgh.
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If West Virginia is allowed to leave early, sources told CBSSports.com that Pittsburgh and Syracuse also would try to leave for the ACC but not until 2013. Although sources said it's "technically not too late" for Pitt and Syracuse to join the ACC for the 2012 season, the two schools will remain in the Big East in 2012, but would likely negotiate to join the ACC in 2013, a year ahead of schedule.
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If Pitt and Syracuse leave in 2013, then the Big East could be left with 11 football members - Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF, Houston, SMU, Boise State, San Diego State and Memphis. Also the league would have 17 basketball members: Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF, Houston, SMU, Memphis, Notre Dame, Marquette, Georgetown, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, Providence and DePaul.

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[ORD_Buckeye]

If Pitt and Syracuse leave in 2013, then the Big East could be left with 11 football members - Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF, Houston, SMU, Boise State, San Diego State and Memphis.

Obviously, a conference full of teams that have never won a NC in their history.

I'd be curious to look at all time winning percentages, bowl appearances, major bowl appearances and bowl wins.

I just don't see how this skidmark of a conference keeps their AQ status....not that that will shortly mean anything apparently.

 

[Diego-Bucks]

Obviously, a conference full of teams that have never won a NC in their history.

I'd be curious to look at all time winning percentages, bowl appearances, major bowl appearances and bowl wins.

I just don't see how this skidmark of a conference keeps their AQ status....not that that will shortly mean anything apparently.

I'll save you the trouble for SDSU.

Winning Percentage: Slim
Bowl history: wait.. whats a bowl game.
Major Bowl Appearances: see above
Bowl Wins:

But seriously... have you seen our uniforms lately? They are fierce!

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

I'll save you the trouble for SDSU.

Winning Percentage: Slim
Bowl history: wait.. whats a bowl game.
Major Bowl Appearances: see above
Bowl Wins:

But seriously... have you seen our uniforms lately? They are fierce!

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[CincyInterloper]

Obviously, a conference full of teams that have never won a NC in their history.

I'd be curious to look at all time winning percentages, bowl appearances, major bowl appearances and bowl wins.

I just don't see how this skidmark of a conference keeps their AQ status....not that that will shortly mean anything apparently.

Memphis certainly doesn't strengthen the football side of things, but at least they make sense geographically. I'm also glad to have them back as a basketball rival.

I believe the only original Big East football member left now is Rutgers. Kind reminds me of the story of the lumberjack who has been using the same axe for 30 years. Had to replace the handle three times and the head once, but he swears it's the same axe.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Obviously, a conference full of teams that have never won a NC in their history.

I'd be curious to look at all time winning percentages, bowl appearances, major bowl appearances and bowl wins.

I just don't see how this skidmark of a conference keeps their AQ status....not that that will shortly mean anything apparently.

The combined record of the new Big East programs (Cincinnati, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, Central Florida, Boise State, UConn, Memphis, SMU, SDSU, Houston) is 3,664 - 3,419 - 220, for a winning percentage of .517

By comparison, the current Big Ten lineup has an overall record of 8,006 - 5,543 - 523, for a winning percentage of .588

The Big East bowl record isn't so bad, at 53 - 53 - 2, with a record in major bowls of 8 - 6 - 1.

For what it's worth, SMU probably deserved the national title in 1982 when they went 11-0-1 and beat Dan Marino's Pitt Panthers in the Cotton Bowl (the title went to the Pedsters, and SMU finished #2 in both polls), and Houston came very close in 1979 (they finished 11-1 with a Cotton Bowl victory over Nebraska, and finished #5 in both polls).

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

The combined record of the new Big East programs (Cincinnati, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, Central Florida, Boise State, UConn, Memphis, SMU, SDSU, Houston) is 3,664 - 3,419 - 220, for a winning percentage of .517

By comparison, the current Big Ten lineup has an overall record of 8,006 - 5,543 - 523, for a winning percentage of .588

The Big East bowl record isn't so bad, at 53 - 53 - 2, with a record in major bowls of 8 - 6 - 1.

For what it's worth, SMU probably deserved the national title in 1982 when they went 11-0-1 and beat Dan Marino's Pitt Panthers in the Cotton Bowl (the title went to the Pedsters, and SMU finished #2 in both polls), and Houston came very close in 1979 (they finished 11-1 with a Cotton Bowl victory over Nebraska, and finished #5 in both polls).

I like it. It sbould be a fun if not funny conference to watch.

 

[Diego-Bucks]

The combined record of the new Big East programs (Cincinnati, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, Central Florida, Boise State, UConn, Memphis, SMU, SDSU, Houston) is 3,664 - 3,419 - 220, for a winning percentage of .517

By comparison, the current Big Ten lineup has an overall record of 8,006 - 5,543 - 523, for a winning percentage of .588

The Big East bowl record isn't so bad, at 53 - 53 - 2, with a record in major bowls of 8 - 6 - 1.

For what it's worth, SMU probably deserved the national title in 1982 when they went 11-0-1 and beat Dan Marino's Pitt Panthers in the Cotton Bowl (the title went to the Pedsters, and SMU finished #2 in both polls), and Houston came very close in 1979 (they finished 11-1 with a Cotton Bowl victory over Nebraska, and finished #5 in both polls).

I like that lineup for us in terms of football. It will be nice to compete with a few more competitive teams each year and see how it might improve our program. Plus the extra few million dollars for TV deals.

However, I am pretty bummed to be moving away from what I would call some peer institutions. SDSU does some high end research for a small/medium university and I thought we fit nicely with Colorado St., UNLV, UNR, Fresno State and New Mexico. I don't see anyone in that list that I feel similar with now except for Rutgers and maybe the Florida schools (not too sure on them). Anyone have a better academic grasp with those schools?

That being said, when we move to the Big West for the other sports I think we'll be surrounded by lesser athletics, but certainly similar schools. I am looking forward to that.