Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[kn1f3party]

Somewhat back on topic.

I know it would never happen but would Kentucky bring to the B1G if anything?

I ask because as I was in the Louisville "International" Airport I overheard a really [censored]ing large UK female fan say something to this extent:



Are they so dedicated to getting their asses kicked or do they think they could win the B1G every year? It would be interesting to watch. B-Ball would be fun watching them actually have competition almost every B1G game.

I don't know. In some ways they fit, in others they don't. But people said that about Nebraska. Unfortunately, it seems expansion is about homeruns on the football field and they are about at the level of Northwestern there.

 

[Dryden]

I know it would never happen but would Kentucky bring to the B1G if anything?

 

[BrowardBuck]

What conference are they a part of? That is the "athletic league" they are able to compete for a championship for. There is no "right" given any team from any university to be able to complete for a MNC. The BCS was set up by the major conferences for the major conferences. There was no thought given to mid-major conferences and there shouldn't have been. The BCS (as much as I hate it) has bent over backward to make room for non-AQs that were never supposed to have been a part of the mix to begin with and the only reason they are a part of the mix is because of the threat of government intervention.

My take on it is this...if there is ever a creation of four super conferences and they decide to put together a playoff as a national championship, so be it. If teams like BSU, TCU and others are left out because they aren't a part of the super conferences, so be it. They have the ability to go create a championship of their own, if they so chose, and try to compete with the group that wouldn't accept them. If they can convince one of the super conferences to ignore their academic standing and relative new upshot history to add them, great for them. Otherwise, they can go back to relative obscurity for all I care. As someone else pointed out, BSU has become the Marshall of the 2000's. Once ESPN has tired of them, they will go back into obscurity and another will take their place.

BB

All I am saying, and what the debates are failing to adequately dispute, is:

If you belong to an athletic league, you should be able to compete for the championship of your athletic league.

It bewilders me that people think this is not the case, that teams should be a part of a league and never have a legitemate chance at competing for a championship.

It shouldn't take decades and they shouldn't have to jump through a mountain of hoops.

 

[cincibuck]

This... How many of the players playing for Truck Driver U. would be academically ineligible in any of the BCS AQ conferences, EVEN the SEC??? They need to play by the same rules in addition to playing similar caliber of competition. Otherwise, this is trying to add oranges (blueberrys?) to the barrel of apples.

Ummmm, What was Carter's GPA when he left OSU? How about Reggie Germany's? Do you think Plaxico Burris was Rhodes Scholar material? And The Harvard of the West produced a Heisman winner who could barely string a coherent sentence together.

When it comes to someone who can tote the pigskin or make it rain from the 3 point line, few schools worry about finding an academic program that will fit their needs.

Come to think of it, a degree in truck driving and maintenance would probably be of more use to many athletes than kinesiology, recreation or criminal justice.

 

[cincibuck]

Somewhat back on topic.

I know it would never happen but would Kentucky bring to the B1G if anything?

I ask because as I was in the Louisville "International" Airport I overheard a really fucking large UK female fan say something to this extent:



Are they so dedicated to getting their asses kicked or do they think they could win the B1G every year? It would be interesting to watch. B-Ball would be fun watching them actually have competition almost every B1G game.

A crooked b-ball coach, fans who dress better than WVU's, a chance to bet on a barrel of Woodford Reserve to the winner of the game and one hell of an infield party early in May.

 

[Muck]

 

[Muck]

Ashley

Yeah but is it really worth it if you have to take a package deal of Naomi & Wynona?

 

[knapplc]

Sorta piling on to what you've said -

It's not Boise's fault that it doesn't have a 100 year history of football. But, it is their reality. No one owes them anything. It's called paying your dues. Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma.. Texas, Nebraska, LSU.. etc.. these schools have been investing in football for over a century. They have built, and therefore earned, payouts.

Boise wants to suck on the same tit. I get that they want it. But, they haven't earned it.

Fuck em.

Actually, it is their fault. The only thing that separates Boise from the other schools you listed, aside from larger enrollment, is the resolve to create that football program. Some time ago Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, LSU, etc all decided that football was a priority, and they dedicated the resources to build a team and cultivated a fan base. They put in decades of hard work to maintain and build those programs into the pillars of college football that they are today. If Boise wanted to be included in that fraternity the process should have started decades ago. I will give them a pass on the fact that they're literally out in BFE, but they could have built themselves up and made themselves into a Pac-10 school, which would have solved all of their current problems a LONG time ago.

I have had this same conversation with a Kansas fan regarding their place at the football table compared to Nebraska's. This was back in 2007 when they enjoyed a modicum of success and became all uppity, expecting the same level of respect we normally reserved for Oklahoma and (grudgingly) Texas. He did not get it until I asked him if Nebraska should be viewed on the same level as Kansas in basketball, and if not, to explain why. Of course the answer is simple - Kansas built over time a very good basketball program, staffed it with quality coaches and built equity with their fans, and nothing prevented Nebraska from doing the same thing other than a resolve to make it happen. Nebraska focused on football, and if the driving force behind realignment today was basketball, Nebraska would be responsible for being left out of the major conference moves.

I have nothing against Boise, and I think they're a fine team, but they do not belong in a list of major schools, and if there is a fault for that, it lies solely with them.

 

[Woody1968]

Well, hold your horses on joining the BSU pity party. Several outlets are reporting that Boise is, indeed, under consideration should the big12 lose Missouri, and then decide to go back to 12 member schools, along with Louisville, BYU and WVU.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Well, hold your horses on joining the BSU pity party. Several outlets are reporting that Boise is, indeed, under consideration should the big12.

Which would make me laugh as well. Should the B12 lose Mizzou and start the pu-pu platter search party, get ready for all the rumblings about OU and UT to go into hyperdrive.. again... with more ShaggyBevo hilarity...


edit: wait, wait, wait... who's reporting this?

 

[PlanetFrnd]

ah, catching up...

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/97829-Missouri-throwing-up-the-deuces

 

[ochre]

Let's keep it simple. Of all these things that are needed to be in the conversation, home stadium is probably the one that is most "fixable".
Official Capacity 33,500
in the ACC only Wake Forest is smaller at 31,500
They would have the smallest stadium in all the other AQ conferences.

Their stadium is smaller than all but Wyoming's in the Mountain West.
They would have the biggest stadium in the Sun Belt conference, though, so they have that going for them.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I certainly don't want to start feuds and rivalries over something so trivial, especially against fellow Buckeye fans in a season where we're going to need to stick together.

Too late. The flintlocks have already been fetched.

 

[Gatorubet]

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday...i-in-on-the-secret-rites-of-the-sec#storyjump

Do NOT drink liquids when reading this article. Have an item of clothing handy to quickly stuff into your mouth if reading at the workplace.

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Have an item of clothing handy to quickly stuff into your mouth if reading at the workplace.

Wow... I'm trying to imagine the workplace training that your HR facilitates. Does ether come standard?