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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
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So I was reading back through Oversigning.com and came across an article talking about "should Georgia leave the SEC" (like Georgia Tech did in the '60's) because it does not participate in gross oversigning like other teams in their division of the conference.

The chances of this happening are even less than Notre Dame miraculously coming to their senses and asking the Big Ten if they could join the conference. Even despite not having AAU accreditation (yet) though, you gotta believe it would be a matter of "how long will it take for the Big Ten to give Georgia an offer to join the conference" instead of will the Big Ten ever offer Georgia" if they were to disband their affiliation with the SEC.

Fun to think about anyways.
 
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It is funny listening to UCF fans (a ton of my friends attend UCF, almost went there, but they rejected me :( ) They keep telling me how they're too good for their conference, and it's just not fair, most of them don't really know anything about football, or they're UF fans first (except this year)

My personal opinion on it is they need to sustain this for more than a few years, if they constantly win their conference, become ranked in the nation, and can beat a big time program every once in a while, then they can probably claim they should be in a BCS conference
 
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scarletmike;1858019; said:
I think your understanding of UCF is slightly askew, Muck.
Even though I am by all qualifiers an "outsider" that doesn't even attend UCF, I think part of the barrier to being added to a BCS conference is not only because of their sudden sports status rise, but because of the sudden rise of the University as a whole. I can see where large, traditional institutions that have been around since the days before the forward pass would be hesitant of UCF's stability and validity, given that UCF sprang up out of nowhere and became one of the largest (by student body count) universities in the nation (I believe they eclipsed tOSU's student count this past year) in a comparative blink of an eye.
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Ahh conferences are afraid & jealous of UCF. Yes clearly it's my understanding that is askew.
 
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Hilarious...

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by Ted Glover on Jan 19, 2011 8:11 PM CST
With apologies to and inspiration from Black Heart Gold Pants.
SCENE: Jim Delany's office, Big Ten Headquarters, Chicago. The Emperor is chairing a meeting with select Big Ten coaches, AD's, university presidents and fans. They are discussing the new Big Ten logo, conference names, and miscellaneous Big Ten post-football season business. Joe Paterno sleeps peacefully at the end of the room.
So after much consideration, research, field testing, and feedback, all held within the confines of Big Ten headquarters and the University of Chicago faculty cafeteria, we really like the homo-erotic logo and out of date non-sensical conference names, and we're going to stick with them for the 2011 season. We feel that it resonates well with everyone that is forced to kiss my ass to keep their paycheck, so we are staying with what we needlessy spent millions of dollars and months of man hours on. Is everyone okay with that? Fans? Coaches?
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Wow. The UT fans were right about those Aggies. They are crazy. If they win their division once every decade in the Big XII, how are they supposed to compete if they go to the SEC?

If the Aggies leave for the SEC, the fallout would be epic. Conference arms race to get to 14-16 teams with the potential of the Big XII (and Big East, as well) dissolving.
 
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The Big XII blogger for ESPN, David Ubben, disagrees with the Aggie faithful too.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/24752/sort/oldest/mailbag-am-to-the-sec-and-ous-title-shot

Stephen in San Antonio, Texas asks: Can you call Bill Byrne and ask him to send us to the SEC? Maybe he will listen to an outsider, because he for sure doesn't listen to A&M Alums.

DU: Sure thing. I'll get to it right after I convince him to let loose a pack of wolves in his living room and build a fire pit underneath his bed. Nebraska to the Big Ten? Great move for the program. Colorado to the Pac-12? Another really good move. Texas A&M to the SEC? Program-killing move.

And for the record, overambitious Aggies fans, now that realignment has died down a bit, the SEC is pretty happy standing pat with 12 teams. That offer likely isn't still standing.

After all, SECeding worked so well for the South back in the mid-19th century. Dumb. Better hope Dan Beebe is as generous as Abe Lincoln, Andrew Johnson and Ulysses S. Grant, right? Nobody wants to see Reconstruction 2.0.
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Muck;1859055; said:
Ahh conferences are afraid & jealous of UCF. Yes clearly it's my understanding that is askew.
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Really? Where in there did I imply anything about jealousy or anyone being afraid. I said skeptical about their stability and validity. Very different from afraid and jealous. Read what I write, not what you think I wrote. Who wouldn't be a little skeptical that a university that quite literally came out of nowhere could sustain the kind of growth and program that they have and are creating so suddenly? Would you go out and risk bringing in a school that just 10 years ago was quite literally nothing in sports and not exactly a giant in terms of research, student body, etc. that turned into a very respected academic institutions with sports teams that are knocking on the door of respect in DI? I'm not sure I would, and not because I would be scared or jealous.

But nevermind, you obviously know what I meant to write, and UCF is little more than a commuter campus with a basketball team that hasn't won a game this season, hasn't been to a bowl...I don't know why you're so quick to try and twist my post, but I'm looking forward to how you twist this.
 
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BuckTwenty;1858180; said:
So I was reading back through Oversigning.com and came across an article talking about "should Georgia leave the SEC" (like Georgia Tech did in the '60's) because it does not participate in gross oversigning like other teams in their division of the conference.

The chances of this happening are even less than Notre Dame miraculously coming to their senses and asking the Big Ten if they could join the conference. Even despite not having AAU accreditation (yet) though, you gotta believe it would be a matter of "how long will it take for the Big Ten to give Georgia an offer to join the conference" instead of will the Big Ten ever offer Georgia" if they were to disband their affiliation with the SEC.

Fun to think about anyways.
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Would love to see that happen. We'd poach a decent SEC team, and we may get a Mark Richt-Jim Tressel sweatervest bowl.

Then the SEC can complete its oversigning thug ways, and get Oklahoma.

Heck, while we're at it, get Ga. Tech too so they can keep their rivalry in-conference, and we make the southeast more viable for recruiting.
 
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BuckTwenty;1861617; said:
The Big XII blogger for ESPN, David Ubben, disagrees with the Aggie faithful too.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/24752/sort/oldest/mailbag-am-to-the-sec-and-ous-title-shot
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I agree with the writer that the SEC offer to TAMU isn't standing "We'll take you whenever," but I do think they have a conditional offer: "If there is another round of expansion you are in."

There is too much for the SEC not to like about getting into the state of Texas for their media contract, recruiting, fan base, academics (believe it or not, look at the rankings) etc.

Too bad the Big 10 doesn't have a clear winning in a state next door. Mizzou, Rutgers, Pitt etc all come with glaring issues. But maybe my view is clouded with the fact I am the anti-ORDBuck; I want nothing to do with the fractured Northeast, pro-centric market. South and east for me.
 
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OSU_D/;1861679; said:
I agree with the writer that the SEC offer to TAMU isn't standing "We'll take you whenever," but I do think they have a conditional offer: "If there is another round of expansion you are in."

There is too much for the SEC not to like about getting into the state of Texas for their media contract, recruiting, fan base, academics (believe it or not, look at the rankings) etc.

Too bad the Big 10 doesn't have a clear winning in a state next door. Mizzou, Rutgers, Pitt etc all come with glaring issues. But maybe my view is clouded with the fact I am the anti-ORDBuck; I want nothing to do with the fractured Northeast, pro-centric market. South and east for me.
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I do think Syracuse or Boston College could end up being great fits. That being said, I'm a hundred percent in agreement with you regarding the pro-centric mentality of the NE markets--NYC in particular. Other than the domers, there really is no school that doesn't have some glaring issues. My negative reaction to the Nebraska pick wasn't because I thought there were perfect alternatives out there. It was pointing out that Nebraska outside of football was a far from perfect fit, and the Children of the Corn getting all butthurt about it.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1861702; said:
I do think Syracuse or Boston College could end up being great fits. That being said, I'm a hundred percent in agreement with you regarding the pro-centric mentality of the NE markets--NYC in particular. Other than the domers, there really is no school that doesn't have some glaring issues. My negative reaction to the Nebraska pick wasn't because I thought there were perfect alternatives out there. It was pointing out that Nebraska outside of football was a far from perfect fit, and the Children of the Corn getting all butthurt about it.
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I have been pro Syracuse from day 1 with the caveat "if this has to happen". Well since its clearly happened I am still pro Syracuse.

Having spent significant time in both Western NY and NYC area proper I can tell you Western NY isn't nearly as pro-centric. 'Cuse may be a smallish private school but they have a B10 state school like following in Western NY (people who don't attend Syracuse identify with/follow Syracuse due to geographic proximity).

There isn't a lot of high level HS football talent out of that region and I don't know if there are enough TV sets to make it worth while but other than that if expansion continues I'd love to have Syracuse.
 
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