Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Buckeye86]

part of me still hopes Texas comes to the Big 10, another part of me hopes that the Texas schools go to the Pac 10 to create the most dysfunctional piece of shit mega conference possible

as has been said over and over, the only reason Texas joins the Pac 10 is because they are going to bend over backwards to accommodate them, which I am sure the current members will just love, and if they are admitted the Texas bloc is going to march in lockstep with one another

I just can't see that working out very well for any of the parties involved, especially since they don't have an established television network yet, I am sure the Texas schools are going to make that process as smooth as possible

it will be interesting, but I don't see a mega Pac 10 with the Texas schools being more viable long term than the current Big 12

 

[Mike80]

Well, it's official - according to ESPN Radio's John Kincaid, Nebraska "cut and ran" because they couldn't compete with Texas and Oklahoma in the Big XII, and their style of play will fit in better in the "plodding Big Ten". Thanks ESPN for reducing a very complex situation down to the sound bite stereotyope that you've been spewing for years.

Throughout this entire process E$PN has been on the outside looking in....I can't say I'm shocked one of the yappies finally started taking shots at the Big Ten.

I mean Colin Coward nearly committed seppuku when U$C was slapped with sanctions, Greenburg whined all week along about how unfair the entire process was and I'm sure the corporate types were pissed because now the Big Ten network will grow and (slightly) lessen their influence on Saturdays a bit more.

 

[kinch]

part of me still hopes Texas comes to the Big 10, another part of me hopes that the Texas schools go to the Pac 10 to create the most dysfunctional piece of shit mega conference possible

as has been said over and over, the only reason Texas joins the Pac 10 is because they are going to bend over backwards to accommodate them, which I am sure the current members will just love, and if they are admitted the Texas bloc is going to march in lockstep with one another

I just can't see that working out very well for any of the parties involved, especially since they don't have an established television network yet, I am sure the Texas schools are going to make that process as smooth as possible

it will be interesting, but I don't see a mega Pac 10 with the Texas schools being more viable long term than the current Big 12

I think each point you made is widely believed among the college football world's fans and sportswriters. The Pac 10, with the Big XII South, just looks like a league waiting to fail. And Texas may not be worth the pains, if it really wants to flex its muscles like many say. But will the Pac 10 let Texas have its own network? If not, then why not the Big Ten, assuming they can play nicely and realize Northwestern and Indiana have as much say and rewards as they do. . .

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Texas reacts to Nebraska joining B10

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[BB73]

Chip Brown's latest speculation on what Texas will do if aTm goes to the SEC - this is from last night.

One thing I hadn't noticed before is that Texas President Bill Powers is a graduate of Cal (Berkeley).

Orangebloods

 

[JCOSU86]

No to Texas and ND.

Texas to the Pac-11 is a perfect senario right now. They want a conference they can dominate, and with the USC sanctions it is ripe for a Texas takeover. They aren't going to dominate the Big Ten ever, period.

ND? They just suck. We should focus your attentions higher. $$$? That will be going away soon, so not a good reason.

I'd rather see Missouri and Kansas than Texas and ND.

 

[BB73]

Texas reacts to Nebraska joining B10

That Hitler thing has been overplayed, but this one was very well done.

"Better than watching Iowa State."

 

[Mike80]

Texas reacts to Nebraska joining B10

YouTube - Hitler Reacts to Nebraska Joining the Big Ten

The only thing you had under control was cleaning up Bevo's shit

 

[BigJim]

Wasteful or not it certainly represents a significant step towards further commercialization.

This is not a company agreeing to sponsor a game, but to sponsor a university. It is the difference between the FedEx Orange Bowl and the FedEx Memphis Tigers. It is a step towards the Microsoft Buckeyes.



Oh yes they will.

The idea is to sponsor the Conference that would take Memphis, not Memphis specifically.

 

[BB73]

A lenthy post by daddylew gives an in-depth perspective on Texas's current situation, and discusses the possibility of Texas and Oklahoma coming to the Big Ten (if the Sooners' academic standing could be accepted by the Big Ten).

I've only quoted a small part of his post.

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Texas and OU have little interest in joining the SEC; we have virtually nothing to gain and nearly everything to lose. However, our friends at Texas A&M have inexplicably decided that the value gained by thumbing their nose at Texas and joining the SEC may outweigh the costs of (1) moving a mediocre football team into football?s most difficult conference; (2) reducing the academic reputation of Texas A&M; (3) opening up Texas? fertile recruiting grounds to the sharks and paymasters of the SEC; (4) starting a ratings war in every Texas media market that will ultimately reduce the amount of money paid to both A&M and UT; and (5) dropping one of the most storied and financially lucrative intrastate rivalries in all of sports. Their logic is highly questionable, but it now appears likely that A&M will join the SEC.

In my view, there are currently five realistic scenarios:
1. A&M comes to their senses, and the whole group heads west.
2. A&M joins the SEC, and the remaining Big XII South teams (minus Baylor) head west.
3. A&M joins the SEC, Texas and OU join the Big Ten, and Tech joins the remnants of the Big XII in a new league.
4. Texas and Texas A&M both join the Big Ten.
5. Texas and Texas A&M both join the SEC.

I will not discuss the first scenario, as it has been discussed endlessly already. The second scenario is far less appealing to Texas since it will reduce our payout from the Pac-10 and will allow the SEC to begin aggressively recruiting in our backyard.

In contrast, the third scenario is extremely appealing to Texas. First, and most importantly, we join our preferred conference: the Big Ten. Second, we keep our traditional rivalry with OU, which means a lot more to Texas fans than our rivalries with A&M or Tech. Third, the combination of Texas AND OU will be enough to allow us to collectively maintain our recruiting dominance in Texas, even if A&M goes to the SEC. Fourth, the addition of Texas and OU will give us enough power within the Big Ten to not be rendered an afterthought in conference decisions. Fifth, the addition of OU would at least partially address our concerns about geography and spring sports. In a nutshell, UT will not join the Big Ten unless we can take at least one other team with us, and the most likely candidate at this point is OU.

Three obvious questions emerge. First, would the Big Ten be able to hold its nose and accept OU as a member? Second, how would this alleviate the political considerations that are currently preventing Texas from joining the Big Ten? Third, how would this resonate politically in Oklahoma?

Cont'd ...

 

[Steve19]

Well, it's official - according to ESPN Radio's John Kincaid, Nebraska "cut and ran" because they couldn't compete with Texas and Oklahoma in the Big XII, and their style of play will fit in better in the "plodding Big Ten". Thanks ESPN for reducing a very complex situation down to the sound bite stereotyope that you've been spewing for years.

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[Jake]

Greatest SEC thread....EVER!

i guess what (woopig) is trying to say is, "yes we are stupid rednecks, but we can play some footBAWLLLL."

i certainly hope you have other hobbies, because whether or not your football team performs well on the field has NO bearing on your REAL life!

Nice

 

[Jake]

Well, it's official - according to ESPN Radio's John Kincaid, Nebraska "cut and ran" because they couldn't compete with Texas and Oklahoma in the Big XII, and their style of play will fit in better in the "plodding Big Ten". Thanks ESPN for reducing a very complex situation down to the sound bite stereotyope that you've been spewing for years.

On the contrary, that's journalism so highly advanced that it goes right over our heads, but 14 year olds on message boards in Alabama understand it completely.

 

[WolverineTX]

(if the Sooners' academic standing could be accepted by the Big Ten)

*shudder*

Hopefully not even in my worst nightmares.

Further, I believe this is missing a probation or three, but surely you get the idea.

 

[JCOSU86]

Another thing to keep in mind is that the Big Ten is taking these teams/colleges in their entirety. What does Nebraska basketball bring to the Big Ten table? Baseball? Women's sports? Do they even have a hockey team?

Not even touching academics.