Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[DaddyBigBucks]

ESPN Blog

The most recent blog is a video of an interview with the MSU president. No new info as far as this thread is concerned - though she does "underscore" the need for prospective members to apply for membership.

Underneath that, there are some interesting links.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

This is what I look like reading expansion news

 

[Jake]

Yeah! Syracuse! I can't wait to watch those turds do their best imitation of Indiana in conference play!

The Cuse averaged 8.5 wins from 1987-2002, so it wasn't long ago when they were good. They beat Coop in a bowl, but then again, who didn't?

Syracuse has won over 58% of its football games all time. Indiana has won 42%, so your comparison is a little weak beyond the last few years.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Didn't notice anyone posted this. First time I've read it ... paints Delaney as the evil mastermind.

Big 12 blew it by eschewing playoff - College Football - Rivals.com

I read that revolting pile of crap. Boo fucking hoo. While I haven't personally seen one of Delaney's business cards, I'm pretty sure that his title is not Chairman of the NCAA or Commissioner of the BCS or Tooth Fairy of College Football Fairnesss. He's the Big Ten Commissioner. It's his professional and fiduciary responsibility to do what's in the best interests of the Big Ten Conference and its member universities.

If the Big 12 guy was too naive...or too stupid....or both to have realized it, too fucking bad. What's he going to do? Send Danny Ocean to the Big Ten offices to ask Delaney for a Billy Martin?

 

[Gatorubet]

It was a genius, cutthroat throat play.

 

[BB73]

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned is at what point does an agreement become binding? How long does it take between extending an offer and signing on the dotted line, and what will the penalties be for jumping conferences in the new era of alleged 16-team superconferences?

The Big 12 teams that leave will lose a variable amount, depending on how much notice they give. They lose half of the money with a 2-year notice. But the increase in revenue in joining the Big Ten would likely cover the loss.

Anyone joining a new conference would presumably be required to sign a similar agreement as part of the process, along with the approval vote by the conference they're heading to. The Big Ten requires 8 of 11 members for approval, the Pac Ten vote must be unanimous for new members.

I think some switching will occur before July 1st, since that is start date for many annual contracts.

ColumbiaTribune

If a Big 12 team indeed leaves the conference for what it presumes is greener pastures, there will be a price. According to Big 12 bylaws, a team seeking withdrawal from the conference forfeits a share of its distributed revenue based on how soon it gives notice of its departure.

With a notice of two years or more, a team loses 50 percent of its league revenue for each of the remaining two years. The shorter the notice, the greater the share the team forfeits. If a team gives less than six months notice, it forfeits its entire share.

 

[Buckin Crazy]

So the Big Ten really wants Texas or Notre Dame to join the confrence otherwise.

Texas wants to stay with the other Texas teams so would only leave with them. They would only be forced to leave the big 12 if Nebraska and mizz leave for the big 10, thus them taking the texas school to the pac 10 expansion.

Notre Dame is only going to come to the big 10 if these realignments occur.

So imo I see it shaking down this way
Big ten sees that it can't get texas with their demands.
Big ten takes nebraska mizz and Notre Dame

16 team pac 10 more then likely happens.

 

[ScriptOhio]

The Big 12 teams that leave will lose a variable amount, depending on how much notice they give. They lose half of the money with a 2-year notice. But the increase in revenue in joining the Big Ten would likely cover the loss.

Anyone joining a new conference would presumably be required to sign a similar agreement as part of the process, along with the approval vote by the conference they're heading to. The Big Ten requires 8 of 11 members for approval, the Pac Ten vote must be unanimous for new members.

I think some switching will occur before July 1st, since that is start date for many annual contracts.

Yes it would:

During the three fiscal years from 2005-06 to 2007-08, Texas collected $29.4 million from the Big 12, receiving the league's biggest payout each year, according to documents filed with the IRS. Oklahoma was No. 2 each year and received $28 million.
Missouri received a share of $22.6 million to rank No. 6. By comparison, the Big Ten disbursed an average of $18.8 million to each of its schools for 2007-08, the last year tax information is available.
Big 12 coaches in the dark on expansion Tiger Extra - Mizzou Sports | ColumbiaTribune.com

$22.6 / 3 = $7.33M per year. The BIG XII's uneven TV income distribution is one thing that "rubs some of the BIG XII schools the wrong way" and makes them willing to "jump ship".

 

[Holy Buckeye!]

This whole deal is getting weird!

Strange Days Are These!

HB

 

[mross34]

So the Big Ten really wants Texas or Notre Dame to join the confrence otherwise.

Texas wants to stay with the other Texas teams so would only leave with them. They would only be forced to leave the big 12 if Nebraska and mizz leave for the big 10, thus them taking the texas school to the pac 10 expansion.

Notre Dame is only going to come to the big 10 if these realignments occur.

So imo I see it shaking down this way
Big ten sees that it can't get texas with their demands.
Big ten takes nebraska mizz and Notre Dame

16 team pac 10 more then likely happens.

I think it's much more likely that the Big 10 takes Notre Dame and calls it a day. With the Big 12 largely in tact, the Texas schools decide to stay put. Maybe at that point the Pac 10 brings in Utah and Colorado and the Big 12 replaces Colorado with TCU.

 

[cincibuck]

This whole deal is getting weird!

Strange Days Are These!

HB

Indeed, some day when I'm older and sporting Depends I'll look back on this and remember something... I think.

 

[bigdog3300]

I could be horribly late to posting this, so if someone posted this already, my apologies.

Joe Schad (sp?) reported that Baylor & the WAC have called a press conference. Interesting to say the least, let's see what comes of this. It'd be great news for those courting UT.

 

[Dryden]

So the Big Ten really wants Texas or Notre Dame to join the confrence otherwise.

Texas wants to stay with the other Texas teams so would only leave with them. They would only be forced to leave the big 12 if Nebraska and mizz leave for the big 10, thus them taking the texas school to the pac 10 expansion.

Notre Dame is only going to come to the big 10 if these realignments occur.

It's a little something like this:

 

[jwinslow]

I think you're the first, thanks for the news. Should we get down on all fours and graze like cattle in King of the Hill (the traditional celebration after a Longhorn win that doubles as a sneaky exit)?

 

[Jake]

I really hate the idea of these 16 team "super conferences", in general. Nothing but unbalanced schedules, trashed rivalries and pseudo-championship games come from them...along with larger TV markets.

This had to be in the works for a long time, given that it never made financial sense to eschew a playoff system. Now we know why. In time, look for the champions of these super conferences to ultimately end up in a playoff, probably along with the runner up teams, and Notre Dame.

College football will morph into an "amateur" version of the NFL, at least for the elite teams. The rest will devolve into a form of Division II as the gap widens.