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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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They also share our affinity for cold weather football. A gameday trip for the weekend with half-day skiing on saturday & sunday would be nice (as long as it's not too early), even if the snow is man made.
southcampus;1712585; said:
How the fuck could you leave Penn State in the "etc." part of that statement. They're a close second to Wisky!
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I have to snub PSU once in awhile or 27 will permanently shun me.
 
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Jake;1712574; said:
Bring on Nebraska, Missouri, and Syracuse now. Create two divisions and institute a championship game. That'll get the financial ball rolling.

Continue working on Notre Dame and Texas. If the State of Texas insists on Tech, Aggie and Baylor coming along for the ride, wish them luck elsewhere. Switch focus then to Notre Dame and Boston College. Pass on Rutgers.

That was easy. :biggrin:
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Yeah! Syracuse! I can't wait to watch those turds do their best imitation of Indiana in conference play!
 
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TheIronColonel;1712604; said:
Yeah! Syracuse! I can't wait to watch those turds do their best imitation of Indiana in conference play!
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I think you underestimate Syracuse. They have a good, longstanding tradition and were BCS caliber not too long ago. They've fallen on hard times, but that's nothing a good coaching hire and new stadium couldn't fix....both of which would be reasonable with Big Ten affiliation and Big Ten money.

Throw in a top tier basketball program, good Olympic sports, good academics and (IMO) better penetration into the NYC market than Rutgers gives, and I think they are a very strong candidate.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1712614; said:
Throw in a top tier basketball program, good Olympic sports, good academics and (IMO) better penetration into the NYC market than Rutgers gives, and I think they are a very strong candidate.
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I'm all for better penetration!

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned is at what point does an agreement become binding? How long does it take between extending an offer and signing on the dotted line, and what will the penalties be for jumping conferences in the new era of alleged 16-team superconferences?

Hypothetical #1: What stops Nebraska or Missouri from saying to Beebe, "We're behind the Big XII 100%!" while the secretaries are out back burning all the Big XII letterhead over a bonfire of free money trucked in by the Big 10? I mean, whatever the penalty currently is, they'll gladly pay it to leave, so I don't know what Beebe expects to accomplish by issuing a hollow ultimatum.

Hypothetical #2: What stops Texas from accepting an offer from the Pac 10 in June, then saying in August, "Hey, the Big 10 offers just showed up in the mail, we'd like to change our commitment?"

Hypthetical #3: What stops the entire Big XII South from jumping to the Pac 10, then Texas bolting to the Big 10 after two years when they realize the grass is greener? If the Big 10 were to snag Nebraska, Mizzou, and Notre Dame, but not Texas, for example, there's no reason to think feelings won't change two or three years down the road. That is to say, I'm not certain why everyone seems to think there is this impending radical realignment on the horizon that will see 4 16-team superconferences, and that this new alignment will be set in stone and progress will then cease, not to mention what Congress will have to say about it all once Lavell Edwards makes the rounds complaining about how BYU is getting jobbed.
 
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Didn't notice anyone posted this. First time I've read it ... paints Delaney as the evil mastermind.

Big 12 blew it by eschewing playoff - College Football - Rivals.com

Big 12 blew it by eschewing playoff

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe all but killed his own conference on April 30, 2008.

That's when he decided to team up with the Big Ten and Pac-10 to reject a four-team playoff being pushed by the SEC and ACC. If the Big 12 (and/or the Big East) had supported it, the so-called "Plus One" model likely would've happened.

Even that modest playoff would have meant hundreds of millions of additional revenue for college athletics. It would have then allowed for easy expansion for an even more lucrative 16-team postseason. That would have solved all the monetary concerns that have left the Big 12 on the verge of collapse at the hands of its one-time allies, the Big Ten and Pac-10.

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany admitted to Congress a 16-team playoff could gross four times what the current Bowl Championship Series does ? in other words about $900 million annually.

He opposed it anyway. Beebe and the others never seemed to ask why. They're finding out now.

Conference expansion is about to forever alter college athletics: destroying traditions, hammering taxpayers and increasing competition. It will leave once-major programs out of the loop, consolidate power and extend the gap between haves and have nots ? even within leagues such as the Big Ten.

No one is in a more desperate spot than the Big 12, which this week could see as many as eight league members receive invites to leave.

It's all because of money. And when it comes to money in college athletics it all comes back to one thing ? the leaking oil disaster that is the BCS.

There are two major revenue streams left in college sports ? football television contracts and a football postseason. (The men's basketball tournament is essentially maxed out.)

It's clear now that Delany used opposition to a football playoff not to preserve some bit of "tradition." His expansion plans clearly indicate he cares nothing about that. It certainly wasn't done for the sake of aiding Big Ten football, since a playoff with on-campus home games likely would've helped his teams.

The goal was to starve out the Big 12, Big East and even the ACC of the hundreds of millions a playoff would've given them and thus turn the future of college sports into a battle of television sets.

Delany couldn't assure that the Big Ten would've done well in a football playoff. Maybe the league would've succeeded, maybe not. With 26 percent of the nation's population, tradition rich clubs and its own cable network though, the Big Ten will always dominate if everything boils down to TV revenue.

It was a genius, cutthroat throat play. He set the terms of the game so he'd win. The Pac-10, led by aggressive new commissioner Larry Scott, is taking advantage also. I'm not blaming Delany here. I may not believe a 16-team Big Ten (or Pac-10) is in the best interest of the league's current members (or the NCAA as a whole), but it's not that big of a deal to me. Whatever happens, happens. Besides, it's not Delany's fault he's smarter than the other guys.

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