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Better Win By An American

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Americans Floyd Landis (Tour De France) and Tiger Woods (British Open) had great wins

  • Floyd Landis winning the Tour De France.

    Votes: 44 67.7%

  • Tiger Woods winning the British Open.

    Votes: 16 24.6%

  • I'm not a cycling or a golf fan.

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • Total voters
    65
  • Poll closed .
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I like Tiger, but can't vote for him because I don't want to see anyone but another Buckeye hitting 18 majors. What has been lost to most of the public is how many times Jack finished second or third, a part of the record that Tiger is no where near.

so put me down for Landis.
 
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Alabama: 18
Arizona State: 20
Auburn: 13
California: 20
Clemson: 15
Florida: 16
Georgia: 15
Georgia Tech: 18
Iowa: 23
Louisville: 5
LSU: 12
Nebraska: 13
Oklahoma: 13
Oregon: 12
Texas: 20
Texas Tech: 15
UCLA: 10
West Virginia: 12
Wisconsin: 10
 
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Landis - You know the French press thought they won the lottery when Lance finally retired. Now they have to deal with another American winning "their" race and the 11th time an American has won it in 21 years. That, my friends, is a beautiful thing.
 
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On Cold Pizza this morning, they had a similar poll. Which was the greater accomplishment, what Woods did, what Landis did, or a 21-year old winning a WSOP bracelet? The real poll question should've been "Which one doesn't belong?"

Between Woods and Landis though, it's gotta be Landis - hands down. What he did was like Kirk Gibson's homerun and the Red Sox overcoming a 3-0 deficit all rolled into one.
 
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jadudley03 said:
To answer the question of this thread I would pick Landis hands-down.

As for Tiger being the most dominating athlete of your/my generation there are two problems with that statement 1) Golfing is not a sport, it is a game, 2) the most dominating athlete IMHO is Ricky Carmichael.

Before anyone gets made about my golf statement, I never said it was easy, just that I don't consider it a sport. As for Carmichael, he has won every motocross championship he has ever competed in and won all but two supercross championships he has competed in. He is the only person in the history of all motorsports to have an undefeated season and he has done it twice. His career has been nothing short of amazing.

That said, I agree Tiger is an amazing talent and possibly the best golfer of all time, but not the most dominating athlete by any stretch of the imagination.
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Whether golf can be classified as a sport will always be debated, as with motocross, or any auto racing. But they are more than just "games" like chess, pool, darts, or poker. They do require athletic ability.

Tiger's dominance is a testament in my opinion to golf being a bona fide sport. I think it can be said, almost without question, that Tiger is the best athlete swinging a golf club. I don't think it's any coincidence that he's also, almost without question, the best golfer.

I think Landis' accomplishment is amazing, especially considering his physical ailments. But the two main reasons why I vote for Tiger don't really have anything to do with Landis, and I admit it's unfair if it belittles the achievement but...

1) Cycling is tainted because of the steriod controversy which has raised questions (legitimate IMO) about the integrity of the sport and
2) Now that Lance Armstrong is retired, most Americans chalk up the Tour De France in the "who cares?" category along with the MLS and Women's anything.

Unfortunately for Landis, because of his condition, he may not be able to change (1) or (2) above as he'll never become the icon that Lance was.

EDIT: I also will not add into the equation which victory pisses off the home country more. The fact that Britain embraces Tiger should be a testament, not a knock.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
Tiger's dominance is a testament in my opinion to golf being a bona fide sport. I think it can be said, almost without question, that Tiger is the best athlete swinging a golf club. I don't think it's any coincidence that he's also, almost without question, the best golfer.
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I'll give you that, however I would like to see Tiger give up 8 or 10 strokes and then make it up over the next 18 holes, then we could start to compare the two accomplishments because that is basically what Landis did in this year's Tour.

I hate to keep pointing to something off topic, but since I used Carmichael as an example of who I think is the most dominate athlete I would like to support the reasons I consider Motocross a sport and Carmichael an Athlete.

Definition of Sport = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport
Definition of Athlete = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlete

Yes, someone could argue based on those definitions that Golf is a sport but I question the physical aspect of it compared to other "sports". I've played golf and it is not physically demanding, however it is very dificult to be good let alone master it to the level of Tiger.

A quick google search found the following...

"When asked to compare the fitness level of Lance Armstrong to a top motocross racer, Dr. Spencer said, “Motocross by far requires the highest level of combined fitness of any sport on the face of the earth, bar none.” He continued, “I’ve spent 5 tours (Tour de France) with Lance Armstrong and Lance is no slouch. But Lances’ overall general fitness doesn’t even compare to the overall fitness of a motocross racer."

This is a quote from the following article:

http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/21464/
 
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jadudley03 said:
I'll give you that, however I would like to see Tiger give up 8 or 10 strokes and then make it up over the next 18 holes, then we could start to compare the two accomplishments because that is basically what Landis did in this year's Tour.
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wouldn't that mean the Tour is easier to make up those '8 or 10 strokes'?
 
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