Sports require a ball, whether it's a football, baseball, basketball, tennisball, raquetball, golfball, volleyball ... whatever.
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Landis.
Cyclists are arguably the fittest athletes on the planet. What Landis did in the final mountain stage was one of the most remarkable feats in the sport. Tiger may have been playing with a different kind of pain, but there isn't a golfer on the tour who would have made it to the first tee if they were feeling a fraction of the physical pain Landis (or anyone still on the tour at that point) was feeling. It was an exhibition of will that was amazing to watch and I feel sorry for those who do not follow cycling close enough to appreciate it.
You can appreciate it even more when watching the final time trial. All Peirero needed to do to achieve the accomplishment of his lifetime was keep his legs moving at a certain pace for just over an hour. He could not do it. With all the training he had beihnd him, with all that was on the line, he could not push himself for one hour the way Landis could.
Tiger's was a great exhibition of skill, but his total physical effort (other than a liesurly walk from shot to shot) was something in the neighborhood of six minutes.
Both were great accomplishments in sports that differ in what is asked of the performer as much as any two sports you can name. But I will go with the athlete who was asked to reach into the very core of his being and respond with everything a human can do.
Cyclists are arguably the fittest athletes on the planet. What Landis did in the final mountain stage was one of the most remarkable feats in the sport. Tiger may have been playing with a different kind of pain, but there isn't a golfer on the tour who would have made it to the first tee if they were feeling a fraction of the physical pain Landis (or anyone still on the tour at that point) was feeling. It was an exhibition of will that was amazing to watch and I feel sorry for those who do not follow cycling close enough to appreciate it.
You can appreciate it even more when watching the final time trial. All Peirero needed to do to achieve the accomplishment of his lifetime was keep his legs moving at a certain pace for just over an hour. He could not do it. With all the training he had beihnd him, with all that was on the line, he could not push himself for one hour the way Landis could.
Tiger's was a great exhibition of skill, but his total physical effort (other than a liesurly walk from shot to shot) was something in the neighborhood of six minutes.
Both were great accomplishments in sports that differ in what is asked of the performer as much as any two sports you can name. But I will go with the athlete who was asked to reach into the very core of his being and respond with everything a human can do.
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Perhaps you haven't seen a cyclist on the podium, arms raised in victory and a pair of lycra shorts clearly displaying the equipment you require for a sport.
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Landis made up the difference on the whole field, he had dropped to 11th place. IIRC, Faldo was in second, and Norman's collapse (78) was more responsible for the victory than what Faldo did that day. If Norman had shot even par he would have won. You'd have a better case with Johnny Miller's last round 63 at the US Open, but I believe Landis's comeback far exceeds even that.
The other factor is that the Tour de France is the biggest event of the cycling year. There are 4 majors in golf, and to most Americans, winning the Masters or the US Open is at least as important as winning the British Open, and winning the PGA means about the same.
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My point was that there are 4 majors in golf, and golfers are thrilled to win any of them. Tiger would consider his year a success if he had won the Masters or the US Open and didn't win the British.
For a cyclist the Tour de France is clearly the top prize.
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LoKyBuckeye
I give up. This board is too hard to understand.
Floyd... I like the fact that he overcame being down 8 minutes in one day.... and that he's riding with a busted hip... and the fact that it probably pissed off all those smelly frenchies over there.
another win for Tiger... big deal.
another win for Tiger... big deal.
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OH10
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I would think that Tiger would consider his victory to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, of his career considering the passing of his father.
The thing that impresses me most about Tiger's accomplishment (as with any of his accomplishments) is that he continues to rack up majors against the best in the world. I'm a big Ben Curtis fan, but I think it would be fair to call what he did somewhat of a fluke. Winning 11 majors is no fluke. Each time he goes out there and wins another major, it's that much more impressive.
It's all very subjective obviously, and Landis' accomplishment is legendary, so I won't try to water down either accomplishment anymore by arguing that one is bigger than the other
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fourteenandoh
My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.
I had a buddy in high school who always used to say that if something was to be considered a "sport" there had to be defense.
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