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Who's got the best conference for football? The Bucks, Wisconsin and Penn State certainly help the Big 10 cause, though you have to wonder about PSU after last night's offense against football.

Maybe the ACC is better than I thought... nah. Sure was nice seeing Miami get creamed and then get jammed after the game in a helmet swinging brawl. Anybody out there old enough to remember IU/Sand Diego Charger great Earl Faison standing in the middle of the field and swinging his helmet, looking like Judah with the jawbone of an ass?

I've got to believe there's a search committee being formed in Ann Arbor. Maybe they can coax Alverez out of retirement.:)

I can't believe how badly the SEC played. Certainly takes them down a notch. I thought Auburn and Georgia would embarass Wiscy and WVU.

The Pac 10 really took it in the shorts when Oregon showed exactly why they weren't picked for a BCS game... In fact, 10 and 1 teams PSU and Oregon, made you wonder how they kept from being 7 and 4.

Oregon did manage to hold on to the rediculous football uniform of the year award. They have a natural advantage with Nike's corporate sweat shop right next door.

If Texas wins then the Big 8 looks better than their record for the year. Alabama needed an ugly kick to get by T. Tech.

If Texas beats USC... and I hope they kill them... it will really put a damper on the Pac 10.
 
I dunno

The top 3 teams in the Big Ten represented well, but the Big Ten wasn't as strong up and down as previously expected. However, Big Ten teams were big underdogs in most of their games. Northwestern played UCLA, Northwestern not ranked, UCLA 17th. Iowa v. Florida, Florida was favored and ranked higher. I can take both of those losses because they were both good games. Michigan just always manages to embarress itself during Bowl Season. I wanted them to win for the big 10, but I wanted to see LLLLLoyd bitch and moan more.

Back to the point, this year I rank the bowls so far....

overall, I think the Big Ten is strongest at the top, with PSU, OSU and Wisconsin, but the SEC played better overall.

The Big-12 really surprised going 6-2 in bowls it looks like? Maybe I'm wrong but If Texas beats USC I'm saying the Big 12 is the strongest conference.
Then SEC and Big Ten
 
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The Big XII, going 4-1 so far, has impressed me. Particularly the way that Oklahoma, a very mediocre team all year, got up for the Holiday Bowl (although I knew Oregon was vastly overrated all year).

The SEC has greatly disappointed. Georgia and Auburn, as big favorites, both losing. Florida did beat Iowa, but they had underachieved all year long. Bama beat Texas Tech, but it took a last second field goal, and Texas Tech hasn't proved to me that they are a good team.

The Pac 10 has gone 3-1 so far, but that's not as impressive as it first seems. Its three victories are over BYU, Rutgers, and Northwestern. Additionally, it says very, very little for the depth of your conference when your second place team (Oregon) goes out and loses to an unranked 7-4 team.

The ACC really hasn't impressed me much either. It has gone 4-3 in bowl games. However, its wins are against Louisville (underachieved all year in a crummy conference), Boise St. (underachieved in a crummy conference), Colorado (a team totally on the ropes), and South Florida (a team that went 4-3 in the Big East and finished 6-6 overall). And its losses include an ugly loss to a mediocre Utah team and a blowout loss to LSU who was without its starting QB.

The Big 10 finished 3-4. That's not incredibly impressive. However, it is important to note that our top three teams (Wisky, PSU and tOSU) were undefeated in bowl games, proving that the class of our conference can play with anyone. That is something none of the other conferences can claim (Big XII--TTU, Pac-10--Oregon, SEC--Auburn and Georgia, ACC--Miami and FSU).
 
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The top 3 teams in the Big Ten represented well, but the Big Ten wasn't as strong up and down as previously expected. However, Big Ten teams were big underdogs in most of their games. Northwestern played UCLA, Northwestern not ranked, UCLA 17th. Iowa v. Florida, Florida was favored and ranked higher. I can take both of those losses because they were both good games. Michigan just always manages to embarress itself during Bowl Season. I wanted them to win for the big 10, but I wanted to see LLLLLoyd bitch and moan more.

Back to the point, this year I rank the bowls so far....

overall, I think the Big Ten is strongest at the top, with PSU, OSU and Wisconsin, but the SEC played better overall.

The Big-12 really surprised going 6-2 in bowls it looks like? Maybe I'm wrong but If Texas beats USC I'm saying the Big 12 is the strongest conference.
Then SEC and Big Ten

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The Big-12 really surprised going 6-2 in bowls it looks like? Maybe I'm wrong but If Texas beats USC I'm saying the Big 12 is the strongest conference.
Then SEC and Big Ten

I don't think bowl games are at all indicative as to how strong or weak a conference is. It's all about matchups, and even then, you never know which team is going to show up a month after regular season play is over.
 
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IMHO the Big 10 would have won all of the bowl games if we had only had 1 BCS team. Kick everyone else down a peg and put Minnesota up against Akron in the Motor City Bowl. You can't hold it against the conference that everyone below OSU had to move up a bowl. The Big 10 won 2 BCS games and it's top non BCS game, below that who cares. The Big 12 is also impressive if Texas wins, which I hope they will. I think that the Big 10 would beat the Big 12 in a top to bottom bowl challenge.

PSU vs. Texas
OSU vs. Texas Tech
Wisconsin vs. Colorado
Iowa vs. Oklahoma
scum vs. Iowa St.
Northwestern vs. Nebraska
Minnesota vs. Missouri
(no more bowl eligible teams but IMO Purdue or MSU could beat) Kansas

In those matchups Texas wins and the Sooners and Huskers have a shot given how they played in their bowls. If you give us another shot at Texas in a bowl I would feel good about it.
 
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I don't think bowl games are at all indicative as to how strong or weak a conference is. It's all about matchups, and even then, you never know which team is going to show up a month after regular season play is over.

Agree wholeheartedly.

It is not an accident that ND has lost 8 straight bowl games dating back 22 years. In the modern era, their ability to earn bowls money bumps them up into bowls in which they do not belong.

Do you think that our bowl record is worst against the Pac-10 is an accident? The Sun Bowl matches a 2nd or 3rd ranked Pac-10 team against the 5th or 6th Big 10 team. Most often it is the 6th team, as the Big-10 has had 2 BCS teams in 5 of the 8 BCS years. This match-up speaks to the dollars that Big-10 teams generate, not to the fact that we are that much better than the Pac-10. The fact that they do not blow us out in those games should be a point of shame to them, but I doubt that they look at it that way.

Similarly, the ACC, though they didn't show all that well, showed better than they will in the near future. Their bowl tie-ins were negotiated for the most part when the conference did not have Miami, VPI (VT) and Boston College. When they get bowls that are more commensurate with the size of conference they are now, they will be exposed unless they undergo commensurate improvement.

The fact that we have a winning record against the SEC, in spite of getting 2 teams in the BCS 5/8 times is amazing to me. This moves our 3rd team up to play their 2nd, and our 4th team up to play their 3rd.

Overall, I believe that we have reason to be proud of our conference.
 
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IMHO the Big 10 would have won all of the bowl games if we had only had 1 BCS team. Kick everyone else down a peg and put Minnesota up against Akron in the Motor City Bowl. You can't hold it against the conference that everyone below OSU had to move up a bowl. The Big 10 won 2 BCS games and it's top non BCS game, below that who cares. The Big 12 is also impressive if Texas wins, which I hope they will. I think that the Big 10 would beat the Big 12 in a top to bottom bowl challenge.

PSU vs. Texas
OSU vs. Texas Tech
Wisconsin vs. Colorado
Iowa vs. Oklahoma
scum vs. Iowa St.
Northwestern vs. Nebraska
Minnesota vs. Missouri
(no more bowl eligible teams but IMO Purdue or MSU could beat) Kansas

In those matchups Texas wins and the Sooners and Huskers have a shot given how they played in their bowls. If you give us another shot at Texas in a bowl I would feel good about it.

This is the way it almost always works out... Part of the Reason Mid Majors can hold theri own too... because accross the board, its usualy theri #1 vs someone else's#5.

Anyway.. the Big XII certainly ended better than they started this season. At least the Big 10 won their top matchups... which is what people remember... and how cnferences get to be "Legit"... I mean, really... what's the PAC-10 after USC? (Answer, See the Big East.)
 
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IMHO the Big 10 would have won all of the bowl games if we had only had 1 BCS team. Kick everyone else down a peg and put Minnesota up against Akron in the Motor City Bowl. You can't hold it against the conference that everyone below OSU had to move up a bowl. The Big 10 won 2 BCS games and it's top non BCS game, below that who cares. The Big 12 is also impressive if Texas wins, which I hope they will. I think that the Big 10 would beat the Big 12 in a top to bottom bowl challenge.

PSU vs. Texas
OSU vs. Texas Tech
Wisconsin vs. Colorado
Iowa vs. Oklahoma
scum vs. Iowa St.
Northwestern vs. Nebraska
Minnesota vs. Missouri
(no more bowl eligible teams but IMO Purdue or MSU could beat) Kansas

In those matchups Texas wins and the Sooners and Huskers have a shot given how they played in their bowls. If you give us another shot at Texas in a bowl I would feel good about it.

Agreed. A lot of people (outside of us) don't realize how deep the Big 10 really is, despite some chokes in the bowl games this year.
 
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If you are talking pure strength, hands down SEC.
Huge: LSU, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee and Georgia
Mid: South Carolina, Arkansaws (spelling)
Lite: Miss, Miss St., Kentucky... one more I am missing.

On the other hand, big-ten has all-round strength
Huge: OSU, PSU, scUM
Big: Iowa, Wisconsin
Mid: MSU, Minnesota, Purdue
Lite: Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois
 
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