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Ben Roethlisberger (Pittsburgh Steelers)

BuckNutty;1502520; said:
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I'm fairly sure people would be far less skeptical had it not taken her a year...to file a civil claim. I'm fairly sure she'll get a fair shake where it counts.

And I knew Reggie Bush was guilty within 10 seconds of reading the first article on Yahoo. :biggrin:

Oh plenty of difficulties with her story, but I was talking more about the general fanbase response to accusations against their own. I think even a more credible accusation would draw the same response from Steelers fans. That's just my experience from every fanbase who has faced this situation.

It's quite sad how fanboyish people become, attacking someone who might have been seriously wronged by their sports hero.
 
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You can see where this goes from here.


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She fixes his cable?


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Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
 
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methomps;1502551; said:
Oh plenty of difficulties with her story, but I was talking more about the general fanbase response to accusations against their own. I think even a more credible accusation would draw the same response from Steelers fans. That's just my experience from every fanbase who has faced this situation.

It's quite sad how fanboyish people become, attacking someone who might have been seriously wronged by their sports hero.
I agree but as a Miam Alum and Steelers fan I will say this. If he is guilty he deserves what he gets. That being said, this women seems as nutty as a king size PayDay. I dunno. I hope justice prevails, but someone who is sleepin with married men , supposedly, ( I know its TMZ, but still), doesn't seem to have a whole lot of credibility when it comes to accusing peope of sexual misconduct. If it happens, it happens. But I don't think the anti-fans nor the fan boys need to start getting offensive or defensive until more is known
 
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Big Ben, Kobe Bryant and any future athlete sexual assaulters I've got two words for you guys.

Date Brick.

Learn how to use them and lets keep the sports page about sports, mmmkay?

I mean seriously, who the fuck uses a line like come in my room and fix the volume knob on the TV? Date bricks keep you from having to say stupid shit like that. You can get her in the room for anything, like "hey is all this money yours?"..gold digging whore comes in to take a look and WHAM! Date Brick bags another.

Take it from a guy who's been married a long ass time, concious women are a pain in the ass and sex with them unconcious really isn't all that different. So do us all a favor, you guys don't want to have to deal with the lawsuits and we don't want to have to listen to the shit 24 hrs a day in lieu of sports.
 
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Steve19;1503011; said:
ORD in 5...4...3...

Well, despite my sincere hope that my above post would suffice as my sole observation on this sorry collidance of sorry human beings, since you asked, Steve...

I have no friggin' idea what went on in that room. I do know one thing for certain, and that is one of the principals has been seriously wronged and the other one is a wretched excuse for a human being. Which is which, I can't begin to figure out. I just hope that, when the dust settles, both the court of public opinion and the relevant court in the state of Nevada both get it right and ruin the one who's lying.

Now, that being said, even those posters on the Fredo board who've witnessed Little Ben in action in the Oxford bars have remarked on a shocking lack of good judgment away from the playing field. They've also been pretty quick to throw around the "d-bag" nomenclature when describing him as a human being. Just saying...if that's the response among those who would be assumed to be Little Ben's most resolute and steadfast defenders...well, where there's smoke, there just might be some fire.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1503022; said:
Now, that being said, even those posters on the Fredo board who've witnessed Little Ben in action in the Oxford bars have remarked on a shocking lack of good judgment away from the playing field. They've also been pretty quick to throw around the "d-bag" nomenclature when describing him as a human being. Just saying...if that's the response among those who would be assumed to be Little Ben's most resolute and steadfast defenders...well, where there's smoke, there just might be some fire.


Can someone point me toward this "Fredo" board, please? I would love to read up on his d-bag history.
 
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sammyjenkis;1504056; said:
Can someone point me toward this "Fredo" board, please? I would love to read up on his d-bag history.

No offense but accusing a Miami alum, I'm one as well, of being a d-bag is like accusing a potato of being delicious, it just goes hand-in-hand. I mean I consider myself a decent guy, I donate to charity, I volunteer at the special olympics, hell I just finished a second degree so I could be a teacher, but all Miami males who drank did douchey things, I may not have groped anyone, but when my friends drunk girlfriend started making out with me I didn't stop it. Miami male grad drunk = douche... period and I'll be the first to admit it.
 
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GoodLifeSean;1504082; said:
No offense but accusing a Miami alum, I'm one as well, of being a d-bag is like accusing a potato of being delicious, it just goes hand-in-hand. I mean I consider myself a decent guy, I donate to charity, I volunteer at the special olympics, hell I just finished a second degree so I could be a teacher, but all Miami males who drank did douchey things, I may not have groped anyone, but when my friends drunk girlfriend started making out with me I didn't stop it. Miami male grad drunk = douche... period and I'll be the first to admit it.


You actually let a drunk girl kiss you? Man, you Miami guys sure have some wild tales...
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1503022; said:
Well, despite my sincere hope that my above post would suffice as my sole observation on this sorry collidance of sorry human beings, since you asked, Steve...

I have no friggin' idea what went on in that room. I do know one thing for certain, and that is one of the principals has been seriously wronged and the other one is a wretched excuse for a human being. Which is which, I can't begin to figure out. I just hope that, when the dust settles, both the court of public opinion and the relevant court in the state of Nevada both get it right and ruin the one who's lying.

Now, that being said, even those posters on the Fredo board who've witnessed Little Ben in action in the Oxford bars have remarked on a shocking lack of good judgment away from the playing field. They've also been pretty quick to throw around the "d-bag" nomenclature when describing him as a human being. Just saying...if that's the response among those who would be assumed to be Little Ben's most resolute and steadfast defenders...well, where there's smoke, there just might be some fire.

I can confirm the bolded portion per the opinions of a couple of his teammates I knew while I was at Miami. . . . I don't think it was a big secret that he wasn't particularly well liked by many of his own teammates.
 
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Three friends and co-workers of the woman accusing Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault have testified that, based on their conversations with her, they believed the sex was consensual.

The co-workers, two of whom have been named as defendants in the lawsuit, also said they did not report the encounter to superiors at Harrah's Lake Tahoe, where the woman worked, because the hotel would have fired her for violating a policy forbidding employees to visit guests in their rooms.

The affidavits are among a number of exhibits submitted to Washoe County Court in Reno, Nev., by Roethlisberger's attorneys. Also included are subpoenas for records from the woman's Facebook and e-mail accounts and records from at least five health and medical centers where she has been treated in the past year.

The last exhibit in the recent filings is an affidavit from Dr. Margo M. Leahy, a California-licensed psychiatrist, recommending "a comprehensive independent medical examination be conducted on the plaintiff."

Calvin R.X. Dunlap, the Reno-based attorney for the 31-year-old woman, could not be reached for comment. The Post-Gazette does not name alleged victims of sexual assault.

The woman has filed a civil suit against Roethlisberger claiming he assaulted her in his hotel room while in Lake Tahoe for a July 2008 charity golf outing. She also has sued eight current or former Harrah's Lake Tahoe employees, claiming they protected the hotel and Roethlisberger.

William T. Santos, of Newport Beach, Calif., a former friend and co-worker of the plaintiff, testified he was Roethlisberger's butler at Harrah's during the golf event. He said he one day saw her engaged in "a flirtatious conversation" with Roethlisberger.

"[She] indicated to me that Mr. Roethlisberger had asked her to visit his hotel room. [She] said she would like to go to his hotel room.

"But then she said, 'I would get in trouble if I went to his room, right?' I responded that of course she would get in trouble with Harrah's. An employee who visits a guest's room at Harrah's for a non-work-related reason (including for sex or to have a drink), even if the employee is invited, is subject to termination for violating company practice prohibiting such conduct."

Santos also said he was in the hotel when the woman claims to have been assaulted, but that she did not call him. And when he saw her the next day, he said, she "appeared normal and not distraught, upset or depressed."

Stacy Dingman, former director of hotel operations for Harrah's Lake Tahoe, said she was the plaintiff's supervisor, mentor and "best friend," and that her children called the plaintiff "Auntie."

"Mr. Roethlisberger was a low-key, low-maintenance guest," Dingman said, adding that the plaintiff "willingly flirted" with him.

The morning after the alleged assault, Dingman said, the plaintiff came to her home.

"She sprawled across my bed, stretching her arms over her head in what seemed to be sheer delight. [She] told me that she had had a sexual encounter with Mr. Roethlisberger, that the interaction was the 'best ever,' ... and that she did not care if it ever happened again because it was 'soooo good.' [She] also indicated that she thought there would be more sexual interactions with Mr. Roethlisberger because [they] had plans to go fly-fishing and camping in the near future.

"At no point did [she] indicate anything negative about Mr. Roethlisberger or that he supposedly sexually assaulted her. Had she done so, I would have immediately called the police and taken her to a hospital."
 
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