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Game Thread BCS Championship Game, tOSU vs. Florida - Jan 8th

As far as the close games, most of the games did not start off close, we would be up by 2 or 3 touchdowns in the first half, and had missed one or two field goals, thus keeping teams in the game. Then for some reason we had a spell where we just came out flat in the second half, although a lot of this I attribute to playcalling. This is Mullen's first year as an OC, he was a QB coach, and the SEC is not the best place to learn on the job. Sometimes I just couldnt understand how we would move the ball so well playing straight up basic offense, then they would throw in a bonehead option call that took us out of our rythm. So, missed FGs and playcalling were the main culprits with close games as we just did everything in our power not to put the other teams away.
 
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Now, to address a few questions:

1) Tebow, I watched the Western Carolina game. Heck, if you guys want I can give you the bt site so you can dl it yourself. He is rarely called upon to throw, so he often missed even some of the simplest passes when he throws. But once he gets settled down, he's a very good passer. Now I know WCU sucks even for a I-AA school, but Tebow did perform much better with backups than Leak did with starters. His passes are mostly right on the money, including a 55-yarder to Riley Cooper, the WR didn't need to break the stride even a little bit. So I think he'll be a fine passer.

2) Close games. We controlled all of our close games except against USCe. In the Georgia game we led 21-0 and had a couple stupid turnover that let them craw back into the game. The FSU game is pretty much the same story. In the Vandy game we led throughout and they never had a possession in the 4th Q that would allow them to take the lead. Against USCe, our two best LBs, Siler and Everett, were out. Due to our lack of depth at LB, the dropoff after those two are HUGE. We ended up playing two TRUE freshmen at critical junctions of the game(both Siler and Everett played a bit, one got injured and never returned, the other tried to play but was ineffective and pulled). USCe ended up being able to run the ball on us, and Sidney Rice made our secondary's lives miserable. We drove the ball easily on almost all of our opponents, but as someone already mentioned before, once we get into scoring position, our OC decides to call cute plays like putting Tebow in at the wrong time(1st and 10), running trick plays and reverses, or option plays with Leak. Plus, two huge things that prevent our offense from realizing their full potential. One is the FG kicking, we all know it's terrible, and that leaves a lot of points on the board. The second is penalties. We're I think 115th or something in the NCAA in penalties, we just shoot ourselves in the foot way too much. It's really frustrating watching us dominate teams over and over again yet every game turns into a nail-biter.
 
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Welcome to BuckeyePlanet Florida posters. We all love intelligent football conversation here. Just one thing though, its Ohio State you will be playing in the championship, not Ohio. Its the same as Florida and Florida State, two different schools. That being said my initial take on this game as it may change a little towards gametime is mainly this:

The team with the least mistakes wins.

You could just about say this every game and be right but anomalies do happen. Our defense is extremely opportunistic as are the Gators. Our offense has turned the ball over few times this year though and when we have, I believe its 11 times, the defense has given up a total of 10 points all season! Jim Tressel teams always play sound, fundamental football on special teams and I think we have a distinct advantage in this area. You can rest assured our punt returners won't be diving into the endzone trying to catch a punt over their shoulders. In fact I think the field position advantage will be on our side this game and possibly be the deciding factor. When Smith and company only have to go 50-60 yards to score and we have a pretty reliable kicker, vs., going 70-80 yards to score with a bad kicker, it will make a big difference at the end of this game.

You guys do have a good front 7 as did michigan, however, if you aren't playing nickel this entire game, you're in trouble. Playing nickel takes away a LB advantage you may have had but no LB can cover Gonzalez in the slot. Playing nickel allows us to zone block you more and Pittman and Wells will find some gaps, perhaps hit a nice run from time to time. If you can take away the running game completely you have a real chance. Our defense has the advantage of having the top DT combination in the country IMO, in Pitcock and Patterson. Those guys will take up at least 3 blockers allowing our DE's to stop the run or rush the passer and leave 6-7 guys in coverage. Florida will have to get some kind of running game going to keep our D honest. Harvin will definitely be your best bet.

Coaching, I give us the advantage as I've never seen Jim Tressel lose his cool and never seen him get out-coached with more than a week to prepare. Dont remember seeing him get outcoached period but thats a different discussion.

At this point I would say Florida scores 20-24 points against us and the game is close at halftime, say 21-13 Bucks. The second half I feel like we may wear them down some and catch them gambling and put some quick strikes together. Early final prediction for me would be 40-23 Buckeyes. Obviously thats subject to change. As long as we play hard and clean I feel good about our chances.
 
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NFBuck;677828; said:
No offense, but these two statements lead me to believe you haven't watched many Buckeye games this year.


For the first statement, I meant our pass offense has an advantage on your pass defense, not that our passing game is better than your passing game.

As for the second statement, I really don't think your RBs are anything special. LSU's assortment of Broussard, Williams, Scott, and Hester are really quite good, and Tennessee's Coker, Hardesty, and Foster are no chopped-liver either. If you want, I guess we could move up a notch to Auburn and Arkansas' RBs. I don't think any of your RBs is as good as Kenny Irons or Darren McFadden, which is why I didn't use those two teams as comparisons. I know these RBs don't put up as glamorous stats, but they do play against some really good defenses week in and week out. When they play against, for example, teams from the Lac-10, they tend to destroy them.
 
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dingyibvs;677841; said:
For the first statement, I meant our pass offense has an advantage on your pass defense, not that our passing game is better than your passing game.

As for the second statement, I really don't think your RBs are anything special. LSU's assortment of Broussard, Williams, Scott, and Hester are really quite good, and Tennessee's Coker, Hardesty, and Foster are no chopped-liver either. If you want, I guess we could move up a notch to Auburn and Arkansas' RBs. I don't think any of your RBs is as good as Kenny Irons or Darren McFadden, which is why I didn't use those two teams as comparisons. I know these RBs don't put up as glamorous stats, but they do play against some really good defenses week in and week out. When they play against, for example, teams from the Lac-10, they tend to destroy them.
Gotcha on the first statement. As for the second, I stand by what I said.
 
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I do remember that stat about your defense after TOs, that's really an incredible stats. For us, it's the exact opposite. Just about every point our defense has surrendered is after our offense turns it over, and we turn it over quite a bit. After a little research, it turns out that teams have scored a whopping 66 points off turnovers from UF, considering we've surrendered 165 points all year, that 66 points is quite a chunk.
 
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DDN

Florida leaps into title game

The Gators to meet No. 1 Ohio State after edging Michigan in final rankings.

By Associated Press
Associated Press

Monday, December 04, 2006
The University of Florida football team beat Michigan on Sunday in the only game that mattered.
The Gators, who lobbied hard for this victory, were picked to play No. 1 Ohio State for college football's national championship, ending any chance for the Wolverines to get the rematch they so desired and thought they deserved.
The Jan. 8 championship game in Glendale, Ariz., will be the first-ever matchup between the two schools in football.
After the numbers were crunched, it was Florida ? barely. The Gators had a Bowl Championship Series average of .944, and the Wolverines were close behind at .934. The teams were tied in the computer rating, but Florida had a 38-point lead in the Harris poll and a 26-point advantage in the coaches' poll. The close selection was sure to set off renewed calls to scrap the BCS and go to a playoff.
"We have a system," Michigan coach Lloyd Carr said on a conference call. "I've said all along that system would speak. It has spoken.
"I don't know exactly what the voters were thinking. You'd have to ask them."
Southern California was a step away from the title game if only it had beaten UCLA on Saturday. Instead, the second-ranked Trojans were upset, clearing the way for Florida (12-1) or Michigan (11-1).
The Gators leapfrogged Michigan by winning the Southeastern Conference championship game, 38-28, over Arkansas.
"It's well deserved, and I'm proud of it," said Florida coach Urban Meyer on the Gators' selection.
Michigan's consolation prize is a Rose Bowl bid to play USC (10-2), a classic Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup of teams left to wonder what could have been.
For the first time in the BCS's eight-year history, the championship matchup was a mystery heading into selection Sunday.
When the Wolverines ended their regular season with a 42-39 loss to the Buckeyes two weeks ago, they talked about getting another swing at their Big Ten rivals.
Florida made its final case by beating Arkansas, but Meyer became very vocal about getting a chance to play Ohio State, especially when it appeared the Gators would be left out.
"It's an imperfect system," said Meyer of the BCS. "If you want a true national championship, the only way to do it is on the field."
 
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ABJ

Buckeyes finally learn which foe they'll meet in decider in the desert

By Rusty Miller

Associated Press

COLUMBUS - More than two weeks after its biggest game of the season, top-ranked Ohio State finally found out Sunday that it will face Florida in the national championship game.
The final Bowl Championship Series rankings had the Gators (12-1) sidestepping idle Michigan to climb into the No. 2 spot behind the Buckeyes.
``It's a relief and a burden off of all of our chests to know which team to prepare for,'' Buckeyes quarterback Troy Smith said.
The Buckeyes (12-0) will be chasing their second national title in the past five years when they play Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz.
``We've had this opponent in the shadows and now you can finally put a face on it,'' center Doug Datish said.
When asked if he thought Florida deserved the No. 2 ranking, Smith said, ``I don't think about the No. 2 team, I only think about the No. 1 team.''
Ohio State and Florida have never met before on a football field. But Gators coach Urban Meyer has strong ties to Ohio and the Ohio State program.
Meyer was a graduate assistant at Ohio State in 1986 (tight ends) and 1987 (wide receivers) under Buckeyes coach Earle Bruce. He also was the head coach at Bowling Green in 2001-02, posting records of 8-3 and 9-3 before taking the head coaching job at Utah. Meyer is in his second year at Florida.
A native of Ashtabula, Meyer, 42, received a bachelor's degree in psychology from the University of Cincinnati in 1986 and got his master's degree in sports administration from Ohio State in 1988.
Ohio State has been No. 1 throughout the season in the BCS rankings. Southern California went into the final weekend at No. 2, followed by Michigan and Florida. The Trojans suffered a stunning 13-9 upset at the hands of rival UCLA while Florida was taking advantage of Arkansas' mistakes to pull out a wild 38-28 victory in the Southeastern Conference championship game in Atlanta.
The Buckeyes have a 50-day wait from their last regular-season game, a memorable 42-39 victory at home against No. 2-ranked Michigan, until they finally face off with the Gators in the desert for the national title.
Ohio State had not won a national championship since 1968 when it went 14-0 during the 2002 season and upended top-ranked Miami 31-24 in two overtimes in the Fiesta Bowl. This year's team has 17 fifth-year seniors or graduate students who were around for that title run.
The Buckeyes have been ranked No. 1 from preseason through the regular season in the Associated Press poll. They will try to become only the third team ranked No. 1 before the season starts to finish at No. 1, following Florida State in 1999 and Southern California in 2004.
Other than the close call against Michigan and a 17-10 win at Illinois late in the season, no other team came within 17 points of the Buckeyes during the 2006 campaign.
Ohio State has won its past 19 games in a row, matching the second-longest winning streak in school history. Only a 22-game streak from 1967-69 is longer.
Smith is considered a front-runner for the Heisman Trophy. He was voted the team's MVP earlier Sunday at the annual team banquet. Smith, who graduated last spring and is working on a master's degree, completed 67 percent of his passes for a school-record 30 touchdowns with just five interceptions.
 
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CPD

Gators will face Buckeyes for BCS title

12/3/2006, 11:58 p.m. ETBy RALPH D. RUSSO
The Associated Press (AP) ? Florida beat Michigan on Sunday in the only game that mattered. The Gators, who lobbied hard for this victory, were picked to play No. 1 Ohio State for college football's national championship, ending any chance for the Wolverines to get the rematch they so desired and thought they deserved.
But Florida got in by a whisker ? just a hundredth of a point in the Bowl Championship Series standings.
The Gators had a BCS average of .944, and the Wolverines were just behind at .934. The teams were tied in the computer ratings, but Florida had a 38-point lead in the Harris poll and a 26-point advantage in the coaches' poll.All these factors were sure to set off renewed calls to scrap the BCS and go to a playoff. Count Florida coach Urban Meyer as supporter of that plan.
"We're beyond the fact of do we need a playoff," he said. "It's now, can we get one."
Of course, Southern California could have made things simpler by beating UCLA on Saturday. Instead, the second-ranked Trojans were upset 13-9, dropping in the standings and clearing the way for Florida (12-1) or Michigan (11-1).
The Gators leapfrogged idle Michigan by winning the Southeastern Conference championship game, 38-28, over Arkansas.
"It's well deserved, and I'm proud of it," Meyer said of the Gators' selection.
The championship game is Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz.
Michigan's consolation prize is a Rose Bowl bid to play USC (10-2), a classic Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup of teams left to wonder what could have been.

"I don't think they (Florida) would have moved ahead of us if USC would have won the game," said Michigan coach Lloyd Carr.
In other bowls:
? Big 12 champion Oklahoma will meet unbeaten Boise State in the Fiesta on Jan. 1.? Big East champion Louisville will play ACC champion Wake Forest in the Orange on Jan. 2.
? LSU will take Florida's spot in the Sugar and play Notre Dame on Jan. 3.
When the Wolverines ended their regular season with a 42-39 loss to the Buckeyes two weeks ago, they talked about getting another swing at their Big Ten rivals.
While Michigan was left to wait and hope, the other contenders still had games to play.
As Florida padded its resume, second-year coach Meyer became very vocal about getting a chance to play Ohio State, especially when it appeared the Gators would be left out.
He called for a playoff and suggested the BCS should be imploded if the SEC champ again was left out of the championship game ? the way undefeated Auburn was in 2004.
In the end, he said he didn't think voicing his opinions about the BCS helped push his team into the title game.
"It's an imperfect system," Meyer said Sunday. "If you want a true national championship, the only way to do it is on the field.
Carr agreed: "I hope one day we have a system where all the issues are decided on the field."
But Ohio State coach Jim Tressel, however, isn't so sure about a playoff system."With a 12 game season, it would be next to impossible to have a 16-team playoff," he said Sunday. "We'll continually improve the system. As you look at it over the past few years, it has gotten better and better."
It's always something with the BCS. The system was created to make sure No. 1 and No. 2 played in the final game of the season, but rarely has there been a title game everybody agreed upon. If it's not too many unbeaten teams, which was the case in '04 when USC beat Oklahoma for the title, it's not enough, which has usually been the case. Last year, when USC and Texas were the only undefeateds, was an abberation.
"What we've got is an extremely exciting regular season that the BCS actually enhanced by making so many games important not only in the region that they were played but nationally," said Mike Slive, BCS coordinator and SEC commissioner. "The next part is here we are with many deserving teams.
"We need to continue over the next few years to look at the postseason to make sure it works the way we want it to work."
Slive repeatedly has said he's willing to discuss changes, including the so-called plus-one model, which would have the championship matchup set after the big four bowl games are played.
This year, the BCS worked out for the Gators, who can focus on winning their second national championship. The first came in 1996, when Steve Spurrier's Gators beat Florida State in the Sugar Bowl ? a rematch, coincidentally, of a November regular-season game won by the Seminoles.
Michigan had hoped for a similar scenario, but Carr chose not to publicly pitch for his team.
It's unclear whether that would have helped or whether Meyer swayed some poll voters. Maybe when faced with the possibility of a Michigan-Ohio State rematch, the voters, like Meyer, cringed.
At least one coach, who voted for Michigan, said the possibility of a rematch didn't influence his vote.
"I don't think coaches are, quite frankly, the best people to vote on that poll," said Rutgers coach Greg Schiano, who had Michigan No. 2 and Florida No. 3. "But I take it very seriously. I know it's important, because we're dealing with people's lives."Tressel decided not to get involved at all. He has a vote in the coaches poll but abstained.
"We felt it was somewhat of a conflict of interest," Tressel said.
Meyer could empathize with Tressel.
"I made a decision a year ago when I was asked to vote, not to vote for this very reason," he said.
Instead of the 104th meeting between the Wolverines and the Buckeyes, Florida and Ohio State will play for the first time ever.
The Buckeyes have won four national titles, including the 2002 title under Tressel. Ohio State upset Miami 31-24 in an overtime classic at the Fiesta Bowl.
Last year, Ohio State beat Notre Dame 34-20 in the Fiesta Bowl, giving the country a taste of what was to come this season.
The Buckeyes have been No. 1 since the preseason. Led by Heisman Trophy front-runner Troy Smith, they've run roughshod over their competition. Only Michigan and Illinois stayed within 17 points of Ohio State.
Senior quarterback Smith capped his season with four touchdown passes against the Wolverines. He finished with 30 TD passes and five interceptions.
Florida, meanwhile, seemed to struggle almost every week. The Gators won at Tennessee by one in September, and none of their last five victories over I-A teams have been by more than 10 points.The Gators relied on their defense, a unit ranked 10th nationally in yards allowed and sixth in scoring.
Florida's senior quarterback, Chris Leak, entered the season as a Heisman contender but ended up sharing the job with freshman sensation Tim Tebow.
Tebow's tough running has complemented Leak's passing, but unlike the explosive Buckeyes, Florida's offense has had its ups and downs. The Gators' only loss came Oct. 18 at Auburn, a 27-17 setback that was a four-point game until the Tigers scored on the final play.
"They have a great football team," Tressel said. "When you can win the SEC championship, you're a great football team."
The Gators are back in the BCS for the first time since Spurrier left after the 2002 Orange Bowl, but Boise State (12-0), Louisville (11-1) and Wake Forest (11-2) will make their BCS debuts. Oklahoma (10-2) is a BCS veteran, making its fifth appearance since the 2000 season.
Boise State from the Western Athletic Conference is the second team from outside the original six BCS conferences to play in the big-money bowl games. Meyer's Utah team was the first in 2004.
Notre Dame (10-2) is making its second straight BCS appearance under coach Charlie Weis. The Fighting Irish will be trying to snap an eight-game bowl losing streak against LSU (10-2).
The Tigers were set to make their first Rose Bowl appearance, but USC's loss has them playing in their home state. The Sugar Bowl returns to New Orleans this season after being temporarily relocated to Atlanta last season because of Hurricane Katrina.
 
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Canton

Florida slips past Michigan to face OSU
Monday, December 4, 2006
By Todd Porter REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER

COLUMBUS Ridiculed for winning close games all season long, Florida Head Coach Urban Meyer won another close one Sunday ? by one-hundredth of a point over Michigan.
The Gators? SEC championship win combined with USC?s collapse Saturday against UCLA gave Ohio State an opponent for the national championship game. The Buckeyes will play Florida on Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz., in the first meeting between the college football powers.
So close were the final BCS standings, the computers couldn?t even decide whether Florida or Michigan should play the Buckeyes. Computer polls, one-third of the BCS formula, had the two teams tied.
Florida moved past the Wolverines in both human polls, the Harris and USA Today coaches? poll. Florida?s .01 overall advantage over Michigan was the closest margin between Nos. 2 and 3 since the BCS started.
Ohio State has been the No. 1 team in the country since the preseason. The Buckeyes? final BCS number was .999, the closest to a perfect BCS score since the system was reformatted in 2004.
During a 30-minute conference call with reporters, Meyer and Buckeye Head Coach Jim Tressel didn?t field a single question about their game. Instead, it was the process that led up to it.
TRESSEL REFUSES TO VOTE
Without a game to play the last two weeks, Tressel didn?t want to start playing them Sunday. He abstained from the USA Today coaches? poll, which makes up one-third of the BCS formula, because he believed the Buckeyes had a conflict of interest.
Tressel?s vote put him in a no-win situation. The final coaches? ballots will be revealed by USA Today. If Tressel had voted Florida No. 2, he might be seen as a traitor to the Big Ten. If he had voted Michigan No. 2, the Gators would have used it as motivation in the national title game.
?I didn?t think it was appropriate for us to put a ballot out for who we should play,? Tressel said. ?The fact that it was narrowed to two teams, clearly both outstanding football teams and both deserving, I just didn?t think it was the right thing to do.
?In the highly unique situation Ohio State was in, I think everyone would agree with that. I guess there had been a precedent. Someone voted someone tied for a certain position in the poll a few years back.?
MEYER THE CAMPAIGNER
The Gators have only won one game by more than 10 points in six of their last seven games, and had a 1-point win against South Carolina. Their only loss in 13 games came against Auburn.
Meyer had campaigned for his team. His opinion was: Michigan didn?t win its conference, it had a chance to play for a national title, the nation didn?t want a rematch with Michigan and Ohio State and his team played the toughest schedules in the country and the Gators deserved to play for the title.
Above all else, Meyer felt Florida desrved the opportunity. He got the matchup he wanted.
In the process, Michigan Head Coach Lloyd Carr expressed displeasure. During his Sunday morning TV show, Carr declined to campaign for his team and said Meyer made inappropriate comments about Michigan.
?That?s not the facts at all,? Meyer said. ?The discussion was about the system and how they select who plays for a national championship. You can spin it how you?d like, but the answer was directed at the system.
?I was asked my opinion about a rematch and the selection process.?
WANTING A PLAYOFF
Meyer has long criticized the BCS process dating back to an unbeaten Auburn getting left out of the national title game, and his 12-0 Utah team being left out. He said he understood why Tressel didn?t vote. In fact, Meyer has declined to vote in the coaches? poll since being hired at Florida.
Meyer still believes the best way to determine a national champion is on the field, through a playoff.
?It?s common sense,? Meyer said, an Ohio native who was a graduate assistant under Earle Bruce at Ohio State in 1986 and ?87. ?If you want a national champion in any sport, you have to let the teams determine the national champion. ... We?re beyond the fact that we need a playoff. It?s a matter of can you ever get one.?
Harris poll voting went by the book. Ohio State was No. 1 on every ballot except one. Former Washington coach Jim Walden voted the Buckeyes No. 2. Only seven of the 114 Harris ballots had either Michigan or Florida lower than second or third.
The Buckeyes beat Michigan 42-39 at Ohio Stadium on Nov. 18. Tressel said the team has spent no time preparing to play anyone.
?We?ve only had two practices ... last Friday and Saturday,? said Tressel, who watched some of the games on Saturday while entertaining recruits. ?We have final exams (today). We haven?t done any planning on anyone. We?ll do that after exams are over.?
Reach Repository sports writer Todd Porter at (330) 580-8340 or e-mail: [email protected]

HOW THEY MATCH UP
A quick look at the matchups between No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 Florida:

Ohio State offense
409.8 yards per game

Florida
defense
268.7 yards per game

Ohio State
DEFENSE
273.0 yards per game

Florida
offense
398.1 yards per game

BCS NATIONAL
CHAMPIONSHIP:
OHIO STATE
VS. FLORIDA
Jan. 8, 8:30 p.m.
University of Phoenix
Stadium, Glendale, Ariz.
TV Channel 8
 
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