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Game Thread BCS Championship Game, tOSU vs. Florida - Jan 8th

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Lookin forward to it DBB.

I don't know where this author gets his Buckeye fans don't have a healthy respect for the SEC. I imagine he's clinging to our more fringe fanbase, as if the SEC doesn't have it's share of nut cases (which this author might well be one, for all I know) For myself, I have a healthy respect for the brand of ball played in the SEC, although I'm far from blinded to it's down sides and I recognize also where stats are misleading. Not going to get in to that debate, because I'd be more successful convincing myself nailing a railroad spike thru my sack was painless than convince many SEC folks something might not be all shits and grins about SEC football. Furthermore, considering Ohio State's history against SEC teams in bowl games, doesn't exactly fill me with bragging rights.

I, as objectively as possible, truly believe Ohio State is the better team on both sides of the ball (this kind of remark is often read by the other side as, "your team sucks" which is absolutely NOT what I'm saying) Not so good that Ohio State is simply unbeatable, but so good that I look at Ohio State as the clear favorite to win this ball game... no matter what Gator stat man might spin to make him feel better about Florida's chances.

Fact is, no amount of spinning - real, or imagined - is going to make one bit of difference. Florida earned it's spot in the title game. As did Ohio State. You don't get to the game by sucking ass (unless you're Nebraska or "the greatest team of all time" Oklahoma), and anyone who isn't the least bit concerned about Ohio State's chances should be institutionalized. This isn't Ohio State v. Bowling Green. Of course, the better portion of users on this site know that, so I'm preaching to the choir in that respect. Guess I'm saying, in an open note to Florida fans who may be reading this... yeah, you'll hear some hyperbole on this site, it's part of what makes fan sites fun... but the Buckeye Planet I know doesn't need to be convinced that a worthy opponent is a worthy opponent.

If you ask me, the real problem with this author's... ferg, is it... analysis is he uses "all things being equal" stats to argue, "all things aren't equal" (and bases his contention regarding lack of equality on subjective, instead of objective criteria.)
 
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Why? Because Ohio State and its Heisman candidate quarterback would never have survived the SEC with a 12-1 record. They've yet to face a good, let alone great SEC defense. And they're not ready to keep up with the speed and athleticism of the Florida Gators.
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And this is where the author exposes himself to be just as unreasonable, arrogant, and full of malarcky as the supposed and anonymous OSU fans previously mentioned. :smash:

Will we ever get through a single season without reading this half-cocked form-letter SEC platitude? :shake:
 
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Buckeyes Forfeit Championship To Avoid Facing Mighty SEC

Yep, breaking news: http://www.thebrushback.com/forfeit_full.htm

COLUMBUS, OH--The BCS title game is still a month away, but it looks like the Florida Gators have already won. That's because the Ohio State Buckeyes, the number one team in the nation, have unexpectedly forfeited the game in order to avoid facing the wrath of the mighty SEC, the toughest conference in all of college football.

"As you all know, the Florida Gators hail from the Southeastern Conference, a powerhouse conference that is the toughest, grittiest, and most talented in all the nation," said Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel. "As good as we are, we're not stupid enough to put ourselves in the potentially embarrassing situation of having to face the SEC champion. We're a good team, but the SEC plays on a whole different level as the rest of the nation. In fact, I'd like to someday be an SEC coach, though I probably wouldn't cut the mustard because SEC coaches are hard-nosed warriors and I'm kind of a dork."

Tressel also pointed out that Florida spent its season playing against other SEC opponents while Ohio State played against teams from the inferior Big 10 conference.

"We've never seen a team like Florida before," said Tressel. "We have not had a taste of SEC football at all. The best team we've played this year is Michigan, and those guys are from the Big 10, which is like the SEC Jr. Florida, on other hand, has played Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, and Georgia. Read that list again. You think we could have handled all those teams? Not likely. And I don't even want to think what an SEC defense would do to our poor little Troy Smith. Bye bye Heisman, hello full body cast. No thanks. We'll skip the game and live to suck another day."

Upon hearing the news of Ohio State's forfeit, members of the Florida Gators were outraged. The Gators were looking forward to the opportunity to face the Buckeyes on national television and give them a little taste of a good old fashioned SEC-style butt kicking.

"We wanted a shot at these guys and now they're backing down," said head coach Urban Meyer. "It's not fair. We worked so hard to play and defeat the number one team in the country. Never mind how sloppy we played against Arkansas. Arkansas is an SEC opponent, a super team like us. Those games are wars of attrition. Just getting out alive is an accomplishment. That's why we were looking forward to a nice, relaxing, breezy victory against a non-SEC opponent. Can't we at least play Michigan? Please? Come on, we promise not to run up the score. We'll put our backups in as soon as we hit 65 points."

Unfortunately for Meyer, the decision has already been made. A message on the front page of the Ohio State Buckeyes web site read "Congratulations to the Florida Gators on winning the 2006 NCAA National Championship." Even quarterback Troy Smith has given up on the championship and started focusing on the upcoming NFL draft.

"The team has made their decision and we just have to go along with that," said Smith as he was cleaning out his locker at Ohio State. "Of course, we all would have liked the opportunity to play for the title, but clearly the best team has prevailed, and frankly, we saved ourselves some embarrassment and probably some pretty serious injuries. I am entering the NFL draft this year and the last thing I need is for scouts to see me throwing interceptions and being sacked and openly weeping while those SEC defenders stand over me flexing their muscles. It's better to quit now and let them think I can actually play."

According to NCAA rules, there is no rule prohibiting a team from forfeiting a title game. Now the NCAA is faced with a decision: find a replacement team to play Florida or cancel the title game altogether.

"It's technically legal for a team to forfeit this game, but it's never actually happened before," said NCAA president Myles Brand. "So it's up to us to find a solution to this problem. We could use the opportunity to allow a more deserving team to play for the championship. How about Florida versus LSU or Florida versus Auburn? How about Florida versus Vanderbilt? Kentucky? You put Kentucky in the Big 10 and they're probably finishing at 11-1. Actually, forget all that. Why don't we just have Florida, the SEC champ, take the field on January 8th and just stand there and let the crowd get a look at what true awesomeness is all about? That could backfire, though, if the fans get intimidated and run for their lives."
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OSU HAPPY TO HAVE OPPONENT
Buckeyes start preparations for unfamiliar Florida team

By MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER

The final Bowl Championship Series poll and the subsequent pairing of Florida and Ohio State in the national championship game sparked a verbal melee that rivaled the postelection fray in the Sunshine State a few years ago. No hanging chads or butterfly ballots, but controversy on a grand scale.
Forgotten, at least momentarily, was that the Buckeyes and the Gators will have to suit up and actually play this game in a little over a month. "We have never played them before, and we always like to get off on the right foot against teams we have never played before," Ohio State senior center Doug Datish said after Florida was chosen over OSU rival Michigan to take on the Buckeyes.

"We are going to give them our best shot, and we will see what happens." The Buckeyes (12-0), the wire-to-wire No. 1 team in the country this season, were mere spectators while the rest of the college football world sorted out who was most worthy to be No. 2 and challenge for the national title. Ohio State senior defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock said things were a bit more subdued in Columbus than they were in Gainesville, home of the Gators, when the championship pairing was announced late Sunday. "We already knew we were in the game," Pitcock said. "They didn't know they were in the game, so that is why they were so excited." Florida, 12-1 after defeating Arkansas in the Southeastern Conference championship game Saturday night, is in the national title game for the first time in a decade. The Gators, under former coach Steve Spurrier, got a rematch after the end of the 1996 season with No. 1 Florida State in what was then called the Bowl Alliance Championship Game. The Seminoles had defeated Florida during the season, but the second meeting was all Florida in a rout, with the Gators winning 52-20. "This team worked very hard to get to this point," Florida senior quarterback Chris Leak said about reaching this season's title game. "To win the SEC championship and have a 12-1 record against the kind of schedule we played - there's a real sense of accomplishment in that. We're looking forward to being part of the national championship game against a team like Ohio State." Ohio State is back in the national title game for the second time in four years. In the 2003 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, the Buckeyes won the 2002 season national crown by shocking a top-ranked Miami team 31-24 in two overtimes. Datish, who redshirted in that 2002 season, said it was a relief to finally find out who Ohio State would play. The Buckeyes have been locked in to the championship game since defeating rival Michigan 42-39 on Nov. 18 to finish the season unbeaten and No. 1 ranked. "Over the last few weeks, we knew we were going to play in the game," Datish said, "but our opponent was in the shadows. It is good to know who we are going to be playing." Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said Florida will give his team an opponent with a different pedigree than what the Buckeyes have seen in recent years. Ohio State has faced independent Notre Dame, Oklahoma State and Kansas State from the Big 12, and current Atlantic Coast Conference member Miami in bowls over the past four years. "It is great to get a chance to play an exciting Southeastern Conference team like Florida," Tressel said. "With all the success our seniors have had, they have never gotten the chance to play an SEC school, so it should be good for them." Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith, who should pick up the Heisman Trophy award on Saturday as college football's top player, said he has been impressed with the Gators and their senior quarterback. "We didn't care who we played. We knew that we were in control of our destiny," Smith said. "I watched bits and pieces of their game against Arkansas. They are a very athletic team. They are a great team, and I am a huge fan of Chris Leak." Ohio State senior defensive tackle David Patterson, who made a recruiting visit to Florida while he was a high school player at Warrensville Heights near Cleveland, shared that trip with current Gators running back DeShawn Wynn, who is from Cincinnati. "I have only seen Florida on television, but I wanted to play them because we have never played them before," Patterson said. "Whoever we got, we knew it was going to be a great game. It should be a great game to watch, with tremendous athletes."
 
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More fun with Ryan Ferguson's "Analysis"

Fergie said:
An interception by McCoy and a costly fumble gave the Bucks the opportunity to score three TDs and a field goal on Texas.
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I hope Fergie can explain how Ohio State managed to score 24 points off of two turn overs. That Jim Tressel... lie's about his ballot.. then holds college football hostage by not even submitting a final ballot. The whole magic turf thing.... Only he could pay the score keeper enough to give Ohio State 24 points off of a interception and a fumble (especially when neither of the same were returned for six in and of themselves). :shake:
 
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MrCodeDude;681183; said:
Yep, breaking news: Buckeyes Forfeit Championship To Avoid Facing Mighty SEC http://www.thebrushback.com/forfeit_full.htm
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scooter1369;681356; said:
Careful. Some SEC fan may take that shit seriously.
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coastalbuck;681374; said:
"May" hell!! They do!
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In all fairness, some OSU fans are starting to sound like The Onion:

BCS Determines No Team Worthy Of Facing Ohio State In Championship Game

COLUMBUS, OH
In what many BCS officials are citing as "proof that their flawless system indeed works," no Division 1-A college football team was found to possess the sheer excellence required to face Ohio State, the No. 1 ranked team since the season began, in this year's BCS Championship game.



"The main job of the BCS is to place the best football players in the nation in a single game in order to decide the national champion," said BCS chairman Mike Coleman. "This year, our computer took hours to process the polls' relevant data --by which I mean the opinions of the nation's finest sportscasters, sports-radio hosts, coaches, color commentators, and ESPN The Magazine contributors?and determined that no championship game is necessary. No team in America deserves to even step on the same field as Ohio State, let alone actually play in a game against them."

"It's good to know that, after the Harris and the USA Today polls carefully and painstakingly take care of the fallible, emotional, potentially biased human element of the ranking through old-fashioned voting, the BCS then takes that human element and subjects it to its own infallible rigid mathematical formulas," Coleman continued. "It's a confidence-inspiring system that has never failed us before."

"Although I'll be the first to admit that previous years have usually featured some sort of game," Coleman added.

According to Coleman, the University of Florida's lackluster running game and one-loss season, USC's "abominable" offense and two losses, and Michigan having already lost to Ohio State 42-39 seemed to be the determining factors in the BCS's decision. Coleman also said that Ohio State clearly being the most popular and exciting team in college football didn't hurt. However, Coleman insisted on adamantly stating for the record that the BCS is not a popularity contest.

"I think this year more than any other year proves that the BCS is working," ESPN College GameDay anchor Lee Corso said during a live broadcast from Ohio State's campus. "The system does an excellent job taking into consideration things that poll voters don't even think about: strength of schedule, whether or not the team won their conference, total distance the teams' fans are willing to travel for bowl games, average amount spent on souvenirs by alumni, and grade point average. After all those things, it's Ohio State, baby. And only Ohio State."

Corso then put on the costume head of Ohio State mascot Brutus Buckeye and was met with cheers from thousands of students.

"My guys were disappointed at first, but they eventually understood," said Michigan coach Lloyd Carr. "We had our chance against Ohio State and we blew it, and I guess a rematch would be boring. But can you blame us for thinking we had a chance? Sure, Troy Smith is easily the best player ever, and that defense, well, quite frankly, I'd be afraid for our guys' safety if we had to go up against that defense again, but our fans are rabidly single-minded and a lot of them have poll votes."

"I wish Bo Schembechler had lived to see this," Carr added. "He had a vote in the poll, you know."

Florida Gators head coach Urban Meyer agreed with Carr, saying that even if his team had been offered a chance to play Ohio State, he may not have taken it.

"We don't deserve to play Ohio State. Period," Meyer said, adding that though Florida had a tough schedule, being the SEC champion was not the same thing as being Ohio State. "Every coach that I know voted for Ohio State in the coaches' poll, or at least had them second after their own team. In any case, I can certainly see why no one who votes in the BCS wants the national championship to be decided by a mere football game."

All coaches interviewed supported Meyer's claim, with the notable exception of Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis, who said that despite his team's two losses, weak schedule, and unremarkable defense, he still felt in his heart that Notre Dame deserved a chance at the title --a feeling that, according to a BCS official who wished to remain anonymous, was not completely overruled.

"First of all, I should note that although Notre Dame is an independent, and a highly regarded independent at that, it does not have its own special set of rules as far as determining its football team's rankings," the official said. "Instead, we use a special set of mathematical algorithms to determine its football team's rankings, which the BCS specifically determines only after ranking all the other teams. And though I shouldn't say this, we --er, the computer-- would have dearly loved to have seen Notre Dame in the championship."

The Fox network has announced that in place of the game on January 8, it will broadcast four hours of Buckeye players working out in preparation for the 2007 NFL draft.
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"The system does an excellent job taking into consideration things that poll voters don't even think about: strength of schedule, whether or not the team won their conference, total distance the teams' fans are willing to travel for bowl games, average amount spent on souvenirs by alumni, and grade point average. After all those things, it's Ohio State, baby. And only Ohio State."
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I really don't get where the SEC is supposed to be this all-powerful conference, but maybe it's just me. The games look slow, low scoring with a lot of mistakes, hope my eyes aren't misleading me and that's what it really is...
 
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