OSUsushichic
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I need to check out that list and see if any other schools are suspect. 
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
Grad Rates
Ivy South?
Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee.
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Auburn 48
Florida 42
Ole Miss 43
Vandy 88
Georgia 53
Kentucky 36
Arkansas 35
LSU 42
Tennessee 38
MSU 60
Alabama 49
Carolina 54Ivy South?
Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
OK, this is pretty damned funny. Check out Prof. Petee's personal website, in particular his choice of graphics.
http://www.auburn.edu/~peteeta/
http://www.auburn.edu/~peteeta/
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Grade controversy hits Auburn
Ex-Tigers players deny receiving special treatment
Posted: Friday July 14, 2006 5:02PM
AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- The one-on-one coursework an Auburn professor provided to dozens of students, including a number of football players during the Tigers' unbeaten 2004 season, is typically granted only under special circumstances, a professor said.
The university is investigating claims that the athletes were able to maintain eligibility and help boost the program's academic rankings by taking what are known as "directed-reading" classes by Dr. Thomas Petee, interim director of Auburn's sociology department.
"A student may need a class for graduation that may not be offered at a time that fits into their schedule," Auburn sociology professor Paul Starr told the Opelika-Auburn News in a story Friday. "So if the professor agrees, they can meet with the student on an individual basis and assign work and reading.
"A professor normally doesn't take on many of these because of the demand on your time and workload."
But Petee offered the directed-reading format to 250 students in 2004-2005, including 18 members of the 2004 football team, along with other athletes, according to a report in Friday's New York Times.
The 18 players took a combined 97 hours of the criminology and sociology courses with Petee during their careers, the newspaper reported. The Tigers went 13-0 and finished the 2004 season ranked No. 2 nationally.
The Times cited records compiled by Professor James Gundlach, the director of the Auburn sociology department who reports to Petee. Neither professor immediately returned e-mails or calls Friday from The Associated Press.
Coach Tommy Tuberville and athletic director Jay Jacobs also were unavailable for comment.
Auburn interim President Ed Richardson said in a statement Thursday that the university would deal with the issue "directly and openly" and release the investigation's findings.
Two players who took the courses under Petee, tailback Carnell Williams and defensive end Doug Langenfeld, said they did nothing wrong and didn't get special treatment.
Williams took two courses during the spring of his senior year in 2005 while spending much of his time on the road meeting with NFL teams. He had already completed his playing career at the time.
"I didn't do nothing illegal or anything like that," Williams, now a tailback with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, told the Times. "My work was good. It was definitely real work."
Langenfeld was battling to remain academically eligible for Auburn's Sugar Bowl game when he dropped one course and picked up a nine-week criminology class. He said he took the class at the advice of his academic counselor, and that it wasn't comprised only of athletes.
"I don't know if any teachers give away free grades," Langenfeld told The Huntsville Times. "If they do, they're not at Auburn."
Tuberville's program has drawn praise for more than its play on the field. The Tigers scored 981 on the NCAA's Academic Program Rate released in March, trailing only Stanford, Navy and Boston College among Division I-A football programs.
Under the NCAA's academic reforms, programs that fail to meet the NCAA's minimum academic progress rate -- determined by a points formula that rewards long-term eligibility and retention of student-athletes -- can lose scholarships.
Auburn football players received an average GPA of 3.31 in Petee's directed-reading courses, according to statistics compiled by Gundlach. Their average was 2.14 in all other credit hours, he said.
Gundlach said he found that more than a quarter of the students in Petee's
directed-reading classes were athletes.
He also told the Opelika-Auburn News that Petee started doing the directed-reading in small numbers just in criminology courses, but the numbers grew and included sociology, which Gundlach teaches.
"I didn't think it was appropriate for him to take over teaching the sociology major entirely on his own in a directed-reading format. It was an insult to me and what I do," Gundlach said.
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Grade controversy hits Auburn
Ex-Tigers players deny receiving special treatment
Posted: Friday July 14, 2006 5:02PM
AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- The one-on-one coursework an Auburn professor provided to dozens of students, including a number of football players during the Tigers' unbeaten 2004 season, is typically granted only under special circumstances, a professor said.
The university is investigating claims that the athletes were able to maintain eligibility and help boost the program's academic rankings by taking what are known as "directed-reading" classes by Dr. Thomas Petee, interim director of Auburn's sociology department.
"A student may need a class for graduation that may not be offered at a time that fits into their schedule," Auburn sociology professor Paul Starr told the Opelika-Auburn News in a story Friday. "So if the professor agrees, they can meet with the student on an individual basis and assign work and reading.
"A professor normally doesn't take on many of these because of the demand on your time and workload."
But Petee offered the directed-reading format to 250 students in 2004-2005, including 18 members of the 2004 football team, along with other athletes, according to a report in Friday's New York Times.
The 18 players took a combined 97 hours of the criminology and sociology courses with Petee during their careers, the newspaper reported. The Tigers went 13-0 and finished the 2004 season ranked No. 2 nationally.
The Times cited records compiled by Professor James Gundlach, the director of the Auburn sociology department who reports to Petee. Neither professor immediately returned e-mails or calls Friday from The Associated Press.
Coach Tommy Tuberville and athletic director Jay Jacobs also were unavailable for comment.
Auburn interim President Ed Richardson said in a statement Thursday that the university would deal with the issue "directly and openly" and release the investigation's findings.
Two players who took the courses under Petee, tailback Carnell Williams and defensive end Doug Langenfeld, said they did nothing wrong and didn't get special treatment.
Williams took two courses during the spring of his senior year in 2005 while spending much of his time on the road meeting with NFL teams. He had already completed his playing career at the time.
"I didn't do nothing illegal or anything like that," Williams, now a tailback with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, told the Times. "My work was good. It was definitely real work."
Langenfeld was battling to remain academically eligible for Auburn's Sugar Bowl game when he dropped one course and picked up a nine-week criminology class. He said he took the class at the advice of his academic counselor, and that it wasn't comprised only of athletes.
"I don't know if any teachers give away free grades," Langenfeld told The Huntsville Times. "If they do, they're not at Auburn."
Tuberville's program has drawn praise for more than its play on the field. The Tigers scored 981 on the NCAA's Academic Program Rate released in March, trailing only Stanford, Navy and Boston College among Division I-A football programs.
Under the NCAA's academic reforms, programs that fail to meet the NCAA's minimum academic progress rate -- determined by a points formula that rewards long-term eligibility and retention of student-athletes -- can lose scholarships.
Auburn football players received an average GPA of 3.31 in Petee's directed-reading courses, according to statistics compiled by Gundlach. Their average was 2.14 in all other credit hours, he said.
Gundlach said he found that more than a quarter of the students in Petee's
directed-reading classes were athletes.
He also told the Opelika-Auburn News that Petee started doing the directed-reading in small numbers just in criminology courses, but the numbers grew and included sociology, which Gundlach teaches.
"I didn't think it was appropriate for him to take over teaching the sociology major entirely on his own in a directed-reading format. It was an insult to me and what I do," Gundlach said.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
As much as I love a good SEC scandal, I'm starting to think that this might not have legs. A couple of litmus tests...
Did the professor make these classes available to all students?
If so, was there a disproportionate number of football players who took them?
If so, were football players graded any differently than other students?
I'm starting to believe that this was simply a ridiculously easy professor of whom the football program made full use. That, in and of itself, is highly questionable behavior from a moral standpoint and from the standpoint of academic integrity, but I don't think it rises to the level of academic fraud. Given Auburn's track record, it should be investigated, but I'd be surprised to find anything coming from the investigation.
Did the professor make these classes available to all students?
If so, was there a disproportionate number of football players who took them?
If so, were football players graded any differently than other students?
I'm starting to believe that this was simply a ridiculously easy professor of whom the football program made full use. That, in and of itself, is highly questionable behavior from a moral standpoint and from the standpoint of academic integrity, but I don't think it rises to the level of academic fraud. Given Auburn's track record, it should be investigated, but I'd be surprised to find anything coming from the investigation.
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ysubuck
Be water my friend.
This could set a dangerous precedent because of the APR.
Auburn has obviously mastered the APR game. They trailed only Navy, Stanford, and BC in the APR rankings, and were a spot ahead of Duke, yet have a graduation rate around 40%?
They may not be doing anything technically wrong, but those numbers sure don't jive.
Auburn has obviously mastered the APR game. They trailed only Navy, Stanford, and BC in the APR rankings, and were a spot ahead of Duke, yet have a graduation rate around 40%?
They may not be doing anything technically wrong, but those numbers sure don't jive.
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methomps
an imbecility, a stupidity without name
I think this has the potential to have legs. IMO, here are the most troublesome points:
- Auburn University has about 23,000 students and about 300 student-athletes (I base this off of SC having over 260 S-As and two less sports than Auburn). That means that student-athletes make up about 1.3% of the student population, but 25% of the students in Petee's directed reading classes. I would consider that a disproportionate number of student-athletes taking these directed reading classes.
-Auburn football players received an average GPA of 3.31 in Petee's directed-reading courses, according to statistics compiled by Gundlach. Their average was 2.14 in all other credit hours, he said.
-Langenfeld's case:
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Actually, it's 299 according to the NCAA Graduation-Rate Report reporting the last 4-class total.
300? Hardly! Good guess though.
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DiamondBuck
Football is 100% physical, 100% mental.
You knew something like this was coming...
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Auburn prof backs out of grade probe
Posted: Monday July 17, 2006 1:37PM
AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- The professor who blew the whistle on allegations of academic misconduct involving Auburn football players said he would no longer assist with the university's investigation of his claims, The Huntsville Times reported Monday.
James Gundlach, director of sociology at Auburn, also said there probably were no violations of NCAA rules since the courses under investigation were available to all students, not just athletes.
He said he sent an e-mail to university officials saying he would not cooperate with the review, which centers on his claims that Thomas Petee, a higher-ranking professor in the sociology department, gave high grades to athletes who enrolled in classes that didn't require them to do much work or attend classes.
Gundlach said he made his decision not to cooperate based on the reported comments of an unnamed university official in a Huntsville Times story on Friday. In the story, the official was quoted as saying Gundlach's complaints were prompted in part because of dissatisfaction over missing out on a promotion that went to Petee.
Gundlach called the claim "a total falsehood."
"The only contested office I ran for was director of sociology, and I won that. There are no sour grapes here," he said.
Gundlach did not return messages from The Associated Press seeking comment.
The university is investigating Gundlach's claims that Petee repeatedly gave high grades to football players without requiring them to do much academic work. The grades were in so-called "directed reading" courses, in which students aren't required to attend class but instead meet privately with teachers.
Gundlach said he went public with his claims, which were first reported by The New York Times, because of his belief that Petee was unfit to administer the sociology department. He said there were probably no violations of NCAA rules since the courses were available to students other than athletes.
"I have never said this was something that was done specifically for athletes," Gundlach said. "My concern was that the athletes were something that was going to call attention to it and lead to embarrassing situations. If the athletes weren't there, nobody would care."
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Auburn prof backs out of grade probe
Posted: Monday July 17, 2006 1:37PM
AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- The professor who blew the whistle on allegations of academic misconduct involving Auburn football players said he would no longer assist with the university's investigation of his claims, The Huntsville Times reported Monday.
James Gundlach, director of sociology at Auburn, also said there probably were no violations of NCAA rules since the courses under investigation were available to all students, not just athletes.
He said he sent an e-mail to university officials saying he would not cooperate with the review, which centers on his claims that Thomas Petee, a higher-ranking professor in the sociology department, gave high grades to athletes who enrolled in classes that didn't require them to do much work or attend classes.
Gundlach said he made his decision not to cooperate based on the reported comments of an unnamed university official in a Huntsville Times story on Friday. In the story, the official was quoted as saying Gundlach's complaints were prompted in part because of dissatisfaction over missing out on a promotion that went to Petee.
Gundlach called the claim "a total falsehood."
"The only contested office I ran for was director of sociology, and I won that. There are no sour grapes here," he said.
Gundlach did not return messages from The Associated Press seeking comment.
The university is investigating Gundlach's claims that Petee repeatedly gave high grades to football players without requiring them to do much academic work. The grades were in so-called "directed reading" courses, in which students aren't required to attend class but instead meet privately with teachers.
Gundlach said he went public with his claims, which were first reported by The New York Times, because of his belief that Petee was unfit to administer the sociology department. He said there were probably no violations of NCAA rules since the courses were available to students other than athletes.
"I have never said this was something that was done specifically for athletes," Gundlach said. "My concern was that the athletes were something that was going to call attention to it and lead to embarrassing situations. If the athletes weren't there, nobody would care."
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