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Where is he from? Find his address, go to his local Auditors web site to get a pic of his house. Copy the pic, then e-mail him and ask him to confirm that's his house because you're coming over to get your money back. That should work.
 
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Re: Now, I understand that he isn't going to get the same seats every year. I also understand eBay doesn't care where I sit in Ohio Stadium, and that he stated in his item description that the seating location isn't guaranteed.

However, I find it incredibly hard to believe that he had enough "points" (as the OSU ticket office calls them) to sit on the 15 yard line in A deck one year, and the very next year he is in literally the worst (unobstructed) seats in the stadium."

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Possibly he donated "extra" money to the university last year which could have qualified him for better seats. He didn't donate anything this year so he was bumped back to a lousy location.

Or possibly he lied about having the 15 yard line seats last year.
 
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Just some thoughts... I've read most of the thread, but there are some vital pieces missing... like I'm assuming you bought somebody's season ticket package, like how many seats are we talking about?

it looks to me like you bought a pig in a poke... as did the seller... both of you were playing the commodities market if you will... What if he got his tickets and found out he was in C Deck on the 30? Would he have been inclined to cancel his deal with you and sell them for a better price?

No one ever accussed me of being good at math, but if this guy (the seller) is getting season tickets doesn't that mean that he's giving a signifigant gift to the university each year? By that question I mean he's probably passing on the gifting price to the buyer. ie. he has to buy a ticket in order to buy the tickets, before he can sell them. Seems fair enough to me. In this case the real price is not stated on the ticket.

Any set of season tickets is automatically something that isn't really on the market. By that I mean this is not something just anyone can step up to the ticket window and buy... if it were I'd have had season tickets a long time ago. In fact, I'd like to get season tickets, but I'm not in a position to buy into the President's Club, so even though I'm an alum and a life member of the OSUAA I don't get the offer.

Third, try selling two tickets NOT next to each other. Suddenly two tickets together gets all the more valuable.

As for location, I assume D means beyond C, as in higher. Having photographed games from the sidelines and on top of the press box (before renovation) and having sat in C deck as a matter of preference to A/AA I'm not sure why you're so upset. The view of the field is unobstructed, you see the whole field (that's why both teams film from up there) you watch plays open up the way you can't with a closer seat. And you're not in B-Deck sitting behind a 4'X4' column of concrete.

I get my annual alum allotment of two tickets for a game pre-selected, and I've been everywhere in the stadium with them from the top rows of C to the southwest corner of the new permanent section, to row three, AA, 20 yeards beyond the end zone. Given the same relative postion of seat-to- yardline, I'll take the upper reaches of C anyday, but I understand that others have different preferences.

It would not surprise me if the university was inundated with more ticket requests and more gift money this year just because so much is expected out of this team and that someone who "regularly ends up in A/AA" would suddenly find himself in D.

Like I said, just some thoughts...
 
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BN27, sorry, but I've kind of become the dog with a bone on this "commodities market" idea.

I have to assume that the guy had offers/bids and that he took yours for X reason.

That established a value for all the tickets you bought and for ALL tickets in the stadium... a base value if you will... the variables that come into play then are L, location, (and L probably includes some sense of fan preferences, i.e. you seem to like A/AA and I prefer C) A, availability, GDW, Game Day Weather, O, opponent - out of the set some opponents, PSU - MICH, are worth more than others NIU - UC - BGSU. These add or subtract to the base value of the individual tickets and the set of tickets

I'm sure there are many other variables we could add in, but I think you get my drift. NOW, if the Bucks clobber NIU, you will have a window of opportunity to sell the remaining tickets at an enhanced price than what they currently hold. If they beat NIU, but loose Pittman for a couple of weeks... If they beat NIU but the defense looks wobbly... all of that will have an affect on the value of the base ticket.

If they then go to Austin and beat Texas...oh say by 14 points... What's the value of your tickets regardless of L? And if they go onto beat everyone else, if Michigan clobbers Notre Dame and comes into Columbus for one of those classic 1 vs 2 games, what's the value of your tickets?

Oh, to be teaching HS economics with such a built-in, tangible learning tool.
 
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Thump said:
BN27,

If you're dumb enough to purchase season tickets ONLINE and you bought them on the premise of where the guy sat last year, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Thanks for the kind words fuckbag. I wasn't expecting to be exactly on the 15 yard line in A deck....but the way he was talking made it seem like they wouldn't be in 29D. I'm not upset that the location didn't match what he claims he had last year, I'm upset that I think he lied about where he sat last year. Thanks for following along.
 
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BN27, sorry, but I've kind of become the dog with a bone on this "commodities market" idea.

I have to assume that the guy had offers/bids and that he took yours for X reason.

That established a value for all the tickets you bought and for ALL tickets in the stadium... a base value if you will... the variables that come into play then are L, location, (and L probably includes some sense of fan preferences, i.e. you seem to like A/AA and I prefer C) A, availability, GDW, Game Day Weather, O, opponent - out of the set some opponents, PSU - MICH, are worth more than others NIU - UC - BGSU. These add or subtract to the base value of the individual tickets and the set of tickets

I'm sure there are many other variables we could add in, but I think you get my drift. NOW, if the Bucks clobber NIU, you will have a window of opportunity to sell the remaining tickets at an enhanced price than what they currently hold. If they beat NIU, but loose Pittman for a couple of weeks... If they beat NIU but the defense looks wobbly... all of that will have an affect on the value of the base ticket.

If they then go to Austin and beat Texas...oh say by 14 points... What's the value of your tickets regardless of L? And if they go onto beat everyone else, if Michigan clobbers Notre Dame and comes into Columbus for one of those classic 1 vs 2 games, what's the value of your tickets?

Oh, to be teaching HS economics with such a built-in, tangible learning tool.
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When I bought the tickets the value worked out to be $150 per ticket.....a price that is high for NIU or Bowling Green, but low for PSU and Michigan. My plan was to sell all the other games hoping I could get near the $150 value for the lesser games. I actually made a spreadsheet that calculated what I needed to sell each remaining ticket for on average to "break even".....where breaking even didn't include the $600 cost for going to the PSU and Mich games.

Selling tickets in the A deck will get more attention on eBay than selling tickets in D deck.

Trust me, I was fully aware of what I was doing as long as the seats weren't.....well......where they are.
 
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Bucknut319 said:
You should take his case. This could be bigger than taking on the tobacco companies! BN -vs- EBAY....."if the tickets were shit, you must acquit!" :biggrin:
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No offense to BN, and he is getting the shaft here. But unless we're talking a class action suit (which I don't have the resources to adequately represent), there's not a whole lot in it for an attorney that would take the case. A standard contingency fee would hardly cover the costs and time expended for a $2000.00 case against Ebay.

And I'm not even saying there would be a case. Without taking the time to read through any online agreements, I can't say that there isn't some sort of risk assumption with purchasing items on Ebay.

Now, the guy that sold the tickets? If you can find him, sounds like a small claims suit worth pursuing - with punitive damages. But I'm doubting that he can be tracked down, and I'm further doubting that he has deep enough pockets.
 
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Stadium Dorm, Just curious... I get the sense that re-selling Buckeye tickets... period... is illegal and that it is always the option of the university to go after someone who scalps tickets. A prime example would be student tickets and the steps the university has taken over the years to have some assurance that a ticket that is sold below value (as student tickets always were) is used by the person entitled to buy it. Since ALL tickets, except those sold to the visiting school, are sold to a group of people who have somehow secured the right to purchase them (through gifting, members of the alumni association or members of the faculty and staff) all the university has sold you is the right to attend the game and the ticket theoretically belongs to them. If that's the case, BN27 (and most of the rest of us) is/are participating in an illegal activity and therefore have no legal recourse to anything pertaining to those tickets.

Because the university chooses not go after scalpers the point is moot, but seems to me to be at the heart of case that BN27 presents to us.
 
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No offense to BN, and he is getting the shaft here. But unless we're talking a class action suit (which I don't have the resources to adequately represent), there's not a whole lot in it for an attorney that would take the case. A standard contingency fee would hardly cover the costs and time expended for a $2000.00 case against Ebay.

And I'm not even saying there would be a case. Without taking the time to read through any online agreements, I can't say that there isn't some sort of risk assumption with purchasing items on Ebay.

Now, the guy that sold the tickets? If you can find him, sounds like a small claims suit worth pursuing - with punitive damages. But I'm doubting that he can be tracked down, and I'm further doubting that he has deep enough pockets.
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Yeah, I'm not looking for like a lawyer to go after this guy. I'm screwed and I know it. I took a risk on eBay that didn't pan out. I was just seeing if there was any kind of law that could help me out in case I had to state my case to eBay. Turns out they won't even listen to me because of the amount of time that has passed.

I do know where the guy lives, so I could just go cause $2,000 damage to his house/car :biggrin:......but I won't.

I just wish the OSU ticket office would let me know if he actually was sitting on the 15 yard line last year in the A Deck. If they could prove that he wasn't, then I would probably be able to get my money back through eBay....because at that point he's lying in his description.
 
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