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Andy Geiger- Retired Athletic Director (Merged all relevant threads)

Alan said:
uga....enlighten me where i am poorly informed??

if you want i will show you emails that i sent to usatoday, espn and other figures (first of dec.) stating that geiger will step down sooner than later....

i believe i mentioned this to osugrad as well...

thank you for your patronage...come again....
If you reported this on the first day of December 2004 it was purely speculation on your part. There were no facts until December 21st.

Secondly, I am upset that you are stirring the rumor mill by claiming that "you are getting vibes". Many of the people that read this board are not as informed regarding the people and process in the Adminstration, Athletic Department, Football program and Booster Community. So much so, that they might misinterprate the rumors they read on this board. Frankly...your behavior is equivalent to that we have seen from Trev and Mark May.

FYI...I posted to a respected individual on this board EXACTLY what was going on with AG and specifcally how I received those data. The only reason I am telling you this is because I don't want to damage ANYBODY at tOSU.
 
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He has planned his retirement since last July according to BSB. You all are giving to much power to ESpin and Clarett if you think he is leaving because of them.
Geiger will be around as acting AD through July. He isn't running or hiding from trash like Espin and manipulators like Clarett.

Remarks from President Holbrook
Thank you for joining us this afternoon.

We are here to announce that Andy Geiger has decided to retire as Ohio State's Athletics Director effective June 30, 2005, one year before his contract ends with The Ohio State University.

In light of recent developments, I have asked Andy to spend his remaining six months as Athletics Director addressing some important and difficult issues. He will work with Provost Barbara Snyder on the structure of academic advising for student-athletes. I'm also asking him to work with the University's General Counsel, Chris Culley, to strengthen our compliance processes, and to further our work on booster education with the Vice President for University Development, Jim Schroeder, and the President and CEO of the Alumni Association, Archie Griffin.

Andy and I hope that by addressing these matters we can bring closure to some of the significant issues of recent months and position the Department of Athletics for the next phase of its development as one of the leading intercollegiate athletics programs in the nation.

Before Andy speaks to you about his decision and his plans, let me first say a few things to put this announcement into proper context. The Department of Athletics has faced many challenges and has experienced 11 years of remarkable and measurable accomplishment under Andy's leadership. A broad and diverse program for 1,000 student-athletes in 36 sports, talented and committed coaches who are directing winning teams, state-of-the-art facilities, sound finances and significantly improved academic performance are his legacy to Ohio State. Today's announcement should be seen in the framework of an extraordinary tenure of leadership, for which Andy has been recognized quite rightly as one of the premier athletic directors in the nation.

And now let me turn the microphone over to Andy.
 
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you, my friend are naive if you think this just came about dec 21st....i didnt say i reported it the first of december....i just said that there was a groundswell of thought that this was the direction things were headed...honestly, his retirement came quicker than i expected.....

and you've got to be joking me....you would prefer that we not harm the little ears of the alumni and boosters with the TRUTH...

that is the EXACT FRIGGIN mentality that makes tOSU a target for this stuff.......

we are much better off getting our heads out of the sand and facing reality and dealing with it....spielman said it very well today on his show....
 
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UGABuck said:
Secondly, I am upset that you are stirring the rumor mill by claiming that "you are getting vibes". Many of the people that read this board are not as informed regarding the people and process in the Adminstration, Athletic Department, Football program and Booster Community. So much so, that they might misinterprate the rumors they read on this board. Frankly...your behavior is equivalent to that we have seen from Trev and Mark May.


His so called "vibes" are from very very solid sources and not just feeling he has or from a friends brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate or something. They are only "rumors" because there is no printed source backing them up, but they come from well connected people.
 
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Alan said:
hubbs knows a few of my sources as we have discussed them offline...

please dont take this the wrong way....but even if you are UGeigerABuck....you might be out of the loop here....
I responded to your PM...let's take it there.
 
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uga and i discussed this offline and i think all is cool now.....

his information regarding the nc2a investigation and geiger that he pm'ed me was dead straight on......

i think this is just another example of people coming together on this board to further the information that the Planet has.....at least thats my take....
 
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Hey, UGA. Is the fact that Geiger is staying on for 6 more months and another year as a consultant a good sign? It seems to me, that if Geiger was asked to stay on for an extra year to consult, the school is somewhat confident there is no involvement on the part of the athletic department in this mess. As for the some of the players themselves, that may be another thing.
 
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NW, the student-athletes have been getting this information and a course for years. Boosters also have been getting informative letters about what constitutes a violation and about penalties if they cross the line.



nwbuckeye said:
Ok we hire a new A.D. and what would i like this guy to do. I want this guy to hold a coach/players only meeting and lay down the law once and for all. It doesnt matter what happened before, nobody has any control over that now but from this point on this is the way its gonna be. Every player will take a mandatory course on what is and what isnt a NCAA violation, they will know the rules inside and out, any anybody who crosses that line is off the team. No ifs no butts no excuses. The university is under the microscope like never before and nobody is gonna break the rules and think they are gonna get away with it. Each and every booster is given a letter that also lets them know if they in any way shape or form cause a player to violate a NCAA rule they too will pay the consequences including losing any seats, boxes, or any other extra benefits they receive. Send a message now before we get the death penalty for one more players mis step or one more dumbass booster doing something they know is wrong; just a microcosm of whats wrong with society today. If you do something you know is wrong dont blame somebody else or come up with the excuse that anybody else in my shoes woulda done it; you break the rules you pay the price. end of story.
 
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Myles Brand and Michigan AD Bill Martin comment on Geiger in the NY Times. Bill Martin's comments about being a "fall guy" are very interesting, indeed.

Geiger Retires at Ohio State
By PETE THAMEL

Published: January 6, 2005

ndy Geiger, the Ohio State athletic director, announced his retirement yesterday for what he called "burnout," ending a successful but turbulent 11-year tenure.

"I'm bone weary," the 65-year-old Geiger said at a news conference in Columbus. "It's not the kind of tired that a good night's sleep fixes."

In the past two years, the National Collegiate Athletic Association has investigated the Ohio State athletic department for improprieties in its football and basketball programs. Geiger fired Jim O'Brien, the basketball coach, earlier this year for giving $6,000 to a recruit. The football program is undergoing its second N.C.A.A. investigation related to the former star tailback Maurice Clarett.

Geiger said he was not forced out, but was stepping down because of the stress of running a large athletic department.

"I am not running or hiding, rather I am making a management decision that is best for me and my family," Geiger said. "I have had to deal with a cumulative fatigue and weariness, which inevitably comes with management of a large, very public athletic department."

N.C.A.A. President Myles Brand said in a telephone interview yesterday that it would be "a mistake of the first order" to link Geiger's legacy with the recent problems at Ohio State. Geiger has been involved in college athletics since 1961 and served as the athletic director at Brown, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Stanford and Ohio State.

"Andy Geiger has a long and impressive history in college sports," Brand said. "He's contributed to the success of a number of individual programs, including Ohio State, and to the advancement of intercollegiate athletics as a whole."

Bill Martin, the Michigan athletic director, said in a telephone interview yesterday that Geiger had been strongly considering retirement for the past couple of years.

Martin said that among athletic directors in the Big Ten Conference, Geiger commanded respect. Martin, who served as the president of the United States Olympic Committee, said he would call Geiger to seek advice on U.S.O.C. matters.

"I certainly have all the respect in the world for him," Martin said yesterday in a telephone interview. "He represented all that's good in college sports. His integrity is the highest. If he's the fall guy, so be it. It's the nature of the business that we're in today."

Martin said that Geiger essentially rebuilt the entire athletic department during his 11 years. Geiger oversaw an expansion of Ohio Stadium and new facilities for baseball and basketball.

"Personally, I'm jealous of the job he's done," Martin said. "He's totally rebuilt the facilities at Ohio Sate and set that program up for the next 50 to 100 years."

Whoever succeeds Geiger will inherit problems as well. The men's basketball team is under a self-imposed ban for the postseason and could face further penalties from the N.C.A.A. O'Brien is suing the university for wrongful termination.

The football program's latest problem comes from the suspension of quarterback Troy Smith, who took money from a booster and could face further discipline.

There have been more than a dozen arrests involving football players since Coach Jim Tressel took over in 2001. There are also the lingering problems with Clarett, who alleged last November in an article in ESPN The Magazine that he received preferential academic treatment and worked a no-show job while at Ohio State.

"This is bittersweet," Geiger said. "I find that my work is no longer fun and that I don't look forward with enthusiasm to each day."

NY Times Article
 
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Didn't read the entire thread so I hope I am not duplicating info but I was a bit concerned by the following quote from Geiger that ended this morning's article in the Dispatch:

"If you take a real hard look at all of these clouds and all of these things.. I fervently hope I turn out to be right, that the type of things we have dealt with the last couple of weeks are not systemic"

The AD "hopes" it isn't systemic?
 
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Oh8ch - not being critical but I believe any objective person would like to think that their system/operation is fool proof. But they are objective enough to realize that their system may have flaws and need adjustments/improvements since they were designed by humans who are less than perfect. This is where I think Andy is coming from when he made those comments.

People of integrity like to think they are doing the right thing but are honest enough to know that there may be problems beyond their control. Prime example of this is how two boosters have screwed up the basketball and football programs through their actions. There could be loose cannons within the athletic department (players, coaches, administrators), boosters and others that Andy is unaware of. Just look at what Jim O'Brien did. Who would have thought that he would have done what he did. Andy was totally surprised by that one. People are humans who make mistakes or poor judgements. There could be more icebergs that Andy is unaware not because of what he did or could have done but by the actions of others.
 
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I heard this on Mike & Mike(who have been pretty fair through this whole ordeal) this morning and wanted to get the quote:

David Kenner, Clarett's attorney, told ESPN the Magazine's Tom Friend that by stepping down, Geiger has vindicated his client."It's clear that Mr. Geiger's perception of Maurice was a biased one, considering that as soon as there was an outpouring of unsolicited corroboration supporting Maurice's account, Mr. Geiger was forced to quickly admit that Maurice's statements were not without merit.

"While I am certain that no one takes any joy in Mr. Geiger's sudden resignation, it, together with other recent events would cause one to finally view Maurice Clarett in a completely different and favorable light, as painful as that must be for Mr. Geiger to concede."
What a weasel...of course Tom Friend will acknowledge the "outpouring of unsolicited support" but will he also acknowledge the backtracking and rescinded statements? Besides, how is the support unsolicited if ESPN contacted the guys and baited them into their comments? The only unsolicited support came from Troy Smith...and we have all learned the reason for that.
 
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