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All-Jim Tressel Era Team

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I'm jumping on the Wilhelm bandwagon. Maybe if JL has a big year he can make it, but Wilhelm is a better all around 'backer at this point.

As for MoC and Pittman...I don't think there's any doubt that MoC is more talented, so if we're making this team on talent I vote for Mo. If we actually had to play a game or a season with these guys, I'll take Pitt and leave the headcase at home.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;861585; said:
2.) Mo Hall broke the career yardage for KO returns mainly because he returned so many kickoffs. No way you can realistically compare Mo with Teddy as a kickoff returner.
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Oh hell no, noone could make that comparison. Barely anyone in Buckeye history can even come close to how dangerous Teddy was at both kick and punt returns, but still Mo was a solid KR that should probably get honorable mention.
 
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Perfection

This list of players sums up the era of greatness that Jim Tressel has brought to Columbus. At first glance anyone could look and see the amount of NFL talent that he has produced is unbelievable. This list is the epitimy of Ohio State football. I love it.
 
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I don't think Clarett would have ever topped what he did in his only year at OSU. He has proven to be an injury prone back, even after not playing for a long time he couldn't stay healthy enough to make the Denver roster. It's hard to diminish what he did when he played, but IMO, he would be a guy that was always injured.
 
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spotpass;862306; said:
:osu:Wilhelm was also very effective in pass coverage partly due to his height. He really narrowed the window to get the ball through. Wilhelm, for now
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I'm voting for Wilhelm as of right now as well but not due to his effectiveness in pass coverage. He stepped up as a leader and this season will be James turn to do that.

JL's stats last season, remember his first season as a starter!

13 games played. 115 tackles, 8.5 tfl, 4 sacks, 3 FF, and 5 interceptions (lead the team and the most by a LB'er since Chris Spielman set the record.) I'd say thats pretty good in pass coverage not counting passes broken up as well. Whoever said James got a "lot of breaks" last season should reconsider his position. You don't put up stats like that game in and game out by not being very good. Breaks come but "luck is when preparation meets opportunity." A true sign of a winner.

Comparatively speaking here's Wilhelm's senior season.
14 games played. 121 tackles, 19.5 tfl (absolutely sickening!- lead team) , 3 sacks, 2 FF, and 2 interceptions. Once again no stats on passes broken up.

Both guys were All-Americans. JL won the Nagurski, finalist for the Bednarik and Butkus awards- as a Sophomore. Wilhelm lead the Buckeyes defense along with Will Smith and Mike Doss, to a national title.

I couldn't find any finalists lists with Wilhelm on it for 2002 so I couldn't compare that.

Both guys are/were fantastic at what they do. Both have legitimate merits to be on such a list. Just another notch in the belt for the real Linebacker U!
 
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For those thinking that Pittman is deserving of the RB spot over Clarett, there is one single statement that should cement Clarett's spot on the list: Without Clarett, we would not have won the national championship.

Pretty much seals it up for me.
 
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Sportsbuck28;865442; said:
For those thinking that Pittman is deserving of the RB spot over Clarett, there is one single statement that should cement Clarett's spot on the list: Without Clarett, we would not have won the national championship.

Pretty much seals it up for me.
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I'm not sure if that disparity lies at Pittman's feet, however.

Had Pittman been given the rock more consistently, we might have had a better chance in Tressel's second NC appearance. The one drive where he was used regularly, OSU marched down the field, capped off by Pittman himself with a scorching run around 3 unblocked gator defenders.

Clarett's fumble/theft may tilt the scales, but I don't think Pittman takes a back seat in terms of running the ball in Arizona.
 
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jwinslow;865444; said:
I'm not sure if that disparity lies at Pittman's feet, however.

Had Pittman been given the rock more consistently, we might have had a better chance in Tressel's second NC appearance. The one drive where he was used regularly, OSU marched down the field, capped off by Pittman himself with a scorching run around 3 unblocked gator defenders.

Clarett's fumble/theft may tilt the scales, but I don't think Pittman takes a back seat in terms of running the ball in Arizona.
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I don't think that one single play in one game can make one person go over another. Clarett's play in the Fiesta Bowl certainly was huge, but I think that he had the spot won regardless. I don't think that Pittman was ever the feature player in that offense, nor do I think that the offense would have been nearly as successful had he been the feature back. His play was greatly improved because the defenses were keying on Smith, Ginn, and Gonzalez. On the contrary, Eddie George was the feature player on his team, and Hoying's play was therefore improved.

(Krenzel/Clarett is a different story, in that Krenzel seemed to play better when he didn't have any run support.)

Look at the different teams that Ohio State was when Clarett was in the game (uninjured) compared to when he wasn't in the game. They were in a nailbiter against Cincinnati without Clarett. I think that Cincinnati later lost to Army. Ohio State was a completely different team when he wasn't in there. Of course, you can't really make that same comparison when Pittman wasn't in the game, as he wasn't out of the offense much (no injuries). And, when he was, Ohio State had Wells or other Wells, or 5 wide receivers, or it didn't matter anyway, because Troy Smith was that good.
 
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I worded that statement horribly. I meant to say that we wouldn't have been in Arizona without Clarett. Without Pittman, it's a chance. I mean, Beanie had the fumbling problem, and Maurice wasn't exactly the greatest threat in the world. So you could make the argument both ways.
 
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