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Alex Rodriguez tested positive for roids' in 2003

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I'd be ripshit if I were New York....paying a guy who built his numbers on roid' use.

You can say everyone was using them, but in fact that isn't true.

They only have 104 names out of how many thousands of players tested?
 
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billmac91;1402089; said:
I'd be ripshit if I were New York....paying a guy who built his numbers on roid' use.
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New York probably doesn't care too much. They DID sign Giambi.

You can say everyone was using them, but in fact that isn't true.

They only have 104 names out of how many thousands of players tested?
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The point is roid use was much more rampant in the MLB in 2003 than their "random" tests will indicate. These tests weren't really that random, if the players were paying attention that is. You had to be stupid to get cuaght, or using the roids all of the time in the case of Bonds. Players in the MLB have been using roids since the early 90s at least. Just look for the Ken Caminiti interview in SI from over a decade ago.

Add this to the rampant amphetamine use (which likely helps them more than 'roids do over the 162 game grind) and there you go.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1402154; said:
New York probably doesn't care too much. They DID sign Giambi.



The point is roid use was much more rampant in the MLB in 2003 than their "random" tests will indicate. These tests weren't really that random, if the players were paying attention that is. You had to be stupid to get cuaght, or using the roids all of the time in the case of Bonds. Players in the MLB have been using roids since the early 90s at least. Just look for the Ken Caminiti interview in SI from over a decade ago.

Add this to the rampant amphetamine use (which likely helps them more than 'roids do over the 162 game grind) and there you go.
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I guess my point is, random tests nabbed 104 players. While steroid use was rampant in the early part of the decade, I don't think it was more than 30% of the players. Some are suggesting just about everyone was using, and I don't think that is true.

I'd guess, at a max, 30%.

I'd still be pissed if I were a club that paid for A-Rod or any other steroid user, and in hindsight learned those stats were put up under false pretenses. Even if lots of players were doing it. A-Rod won a MVP in 2003, and put up monster stats....those numbers earned him the highest paying contract of all time. If he isn't using anymore, you're paying for a shell of that player. I'd be looking for ways to get some money back....
 
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billmac91 said:
I guess my point is, random tests nabbed 104 players. While steroid use was rampant in the early part of the decade, I don't think it was more than 30% of the players. Some are suggesting just about everyone was using, and I don't think that is true.

I'd guess, at a max, 30%.

I'd still be pissed if I were a club that paid for A-Rod or any other steroid user, and in hindsight learned those stats were put up under false pretenses. Even if lots of players were doing it. A-Rod won a MVP in 2003, and put up monster stats....those numbers earned him the highest paying contract of all time. If he isn't using anymore, you're paying for a shell of that player. I'd be looking for ways to get some money back....
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Maybe, but for argument's sake...

Roidriguez averaged 52 HR's and 131 RBI's in his 3 seasons with Texas ('01, '02, '03).

He's averaged 42 HR's and 123 RBI's in his 5 seasons with the Yanks ('04-'08). He's had 2 MVP seasons in NY.

I don't know, yeah the HR difference is pretty big, but the Yankees are getting what they [over]paid for. Yankees always do this, and hardly any of their overpaid players work out (for many possible reasons- pressure and laziness after getting their big contract, to name a couple), so I don't see them wanting any cash back on this one.

Also, I've read 1198 players were tested. 104 were positive. So yeah around 12% were caught in 2003.
 
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Also, I've read 1198 players were tested. 104 were positive. So yeah around 12% were caught in 2003.
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say another 104 got away with taking roids, and you're at about 24% which sounds about right to me.

And who's to say A-Rod isn't juicing up on HGH right now?? Hopefully he comes into into camp thirty pounds lighter talking about wanting more flexibility and a quicker bat (Sammy Sosa, Ivan Rodriguez, Brett Boone, Jason Giambi).
 
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billmac91 said:
say another 104 got away with taking roids, and you're at about 24% which sounds about right to me.

And who's to say A-Rod isn't juicing up on HGH right now?? Hopefully he comes into into camp thirty pounds lighter talking about wanting more flexibility and a quicker bat (Sammy Sosa, Ivan Rodriguez, Brett Boone, Jason Giambi).
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:lol:

Unbelievable some of the things these guys say.
 
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billmac91;1402209; said:
say another 104 got away with taking roids, and you're at about 24% which sounds about right to me.

And who's to say A-Rod isn't juicing up on HGH right now?? Hopefully he comes into into camp thirty pounds lighter talking about wanting more flexibility and a quicker bat (Sammy Sosa, Ivan Rodriguez, Brett Boone, Jason Giambi).
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:lol: What reason do they give for their shrunken heads? Greater hat selection?
 
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BUCKYLE;1402215; said:
:lol: What reason do they give for their shrunken heads? Greater hat selection?
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If by shrunken heads, you mean growing heads. Barry Bonds knoggin' grew to the point were he had to go up 2 hat sizes according to "Juiced".

There were rumors that when Barry Bonds faced Roger Clemons on the mound, MLB had to call Air Traffic Control to make sure planes flew around the stadium to avoid any catostrophes.
 
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