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So I’m not the only one this is happening to.

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I wanted to discuss it because I thought the whole thing was preposterous on its face from the beginning, but the media and the left/anti-Trump faction got way, way out over the ledge on it. I&#039;m hoping that someone with some sense of responsibility on that side will recognize that just because a consensus of progressive-liberals agree on something, that they think something is true or want it to be true, that doesn&#039;t constitute truth.<br />
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</div>Like you know, labeling absolutely everything as deep state, never mind how overwhelmingly right wing the villainized demographic is.<br />



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</div>It comes from the fact that he behaves and speaks like he is the law. Because he thinks he should be able to make anyone in any level of the judicial branch do what he wants because that&#039;s how he&#039;s always operated. Which is why he&#039;s furious with Sessions for doing his job. Which is why he asked the director of the FBI to kiss the ring and bow to his wishes.<br />
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Also like a king, he shows zero interest in understanding anything about that which he rules. He&#039;s in charge so who gives a flip about history or procedure or even what his advisors have to say. He&#039;s never been troubled by information or wisdom before, why start now? He does whatever he wants, shouts whatever he wants, and has a host of jesters that have convinced about 30% of america that he&#039;s a beacon of truth and liberty despite having an almost unending parade of lies exiting his mouth.
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That said, you claim (and I&#039;m sure there is a degree of truth) that Russia has been trying to infiltrate sensitive facilities and high level positions for decades. Why wouldn&#039;t a Presidential candidate with a bit of a checkered personal and professional past be a target? What would put Trump above that kind of influence and exposure to corruption?</div><div class="quoteExpand">Click to expand...</div></blockquote>
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</div>This president has been under a cloud of, well, the accusations are too numerous to go into here, since before his inauguration. For the first, at least, 6 months of his admin it was openly discussed whether he was actually a legitimate, constitutional president and whether he would finish his term. After all, he &quot;stole the election&quot; by &quot;colluding with Russians&quot;. Lol.<br />
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The Weasel Party, known better as the GOP, acted cautiously in congress because they are mostly a bunch of spineless wonders. They were hedging their bets and not supporting while not opposing the president&#039;s agenda. At the same time, you had an opposition that had no such doubts and were fully committed to resistance and obstruction. They slow-walked almost everything, and tried to keep the admin from being staffed at high levels. Trump, more or less, has steamrolled all of them. The resistance has waned, and the weasels have began to cooperate some, but they lost a massive opportunity to do some very big things like completely dismantle that nightmare known as &quot;Obamacare.&quot;<br />
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I&#039;m sure Trump was a target - or at least those around him. But the level of absurdity is so high since fall 2016 that, evidently, it is against the law to speak to any person from a foreign country, especially Russia - and that is evidence enough to shackle an administration with the burden of proving that they are not traitors before they are deemed legitimate. It&#039;s a bad precedent. Even if you think this president deserves that treatment, you probably won&#039;t like it happening to the next one.
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I have no allegiance. (I do have things I oppose) That&#039;s not because I&#039;m special. It&#039;s because I&#039;m a christian conservative living in a world of TMZ/FakeNews extremism, and anger/hate is the only thing that sells commercials/elections so I&#039;m not permitted to have the moderate candidate I crave (along with huge swaths of this country). Both sides are ridiculous, though I find the right to be much more offensive as a whole. That doesn&#039;t make me a fan of the left by any stretch.<br />



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</div>It went downhill when they brought in the 3 youngsters though it was still fun. I eventually lost track of that and now they have a completely separate crew.
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It comes from the fact that he behaves and speaks like he is the law. Because he thinks he should be able to make anyone in any level of the judicial branch do what he wants because that&#039;s how he&#039;s always operated. Which is why he&#039;s furious with Sessions for doing his job. Which is why he asked the director of the FBI to kiss the ring and bow to his wishes.</div><div class="quoteExpand">Click to expand...</div></blockquote>
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</div>Uh, 1st paragraph is just wrong. I was open to it at first under the theory that anything is possible and you always have to be open to evidence. As time has gone along, my openness to it has waned to the point where it amazes me that anyone still subscribes to it. I guess there are lots of Fonzie&#039;s out there who can&#039;t say they were wro-wrrro-wwrroo. Lol.<br />
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Your 2nd paragraph is your opinion, and I applaud your right to have it. But like I said, I believe it is based more on a general dislike of the man more than anything specific. Most of the specifics I hear are gross distortions of what the man has actually said and done. That&#039;s my opinion. At this point is where I generally get accused of defending Trump as a man. However, if we want to create that discussion and I can join in and lustily list all the things I dislike about him as a man. But as a president, I&#039;m really loving what he is DOING, but only about 1/4 of what he is saying.<br />
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For me to agree with you on the &quot;monarch&quot; accusation, he would need to flout constitutional boundaries and I just don&#039;t see him doing that. What I see is that he is crashing through all of the expectations and boundaries of The Establishment - and I want to see him that all day, every day. :)
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<blockquote class="quoteContainer"><div class="quote">Uh, 1st paragraph is just wrong. I was open to it at first under the theory that anything is possible and you always have to be open to evidence. As time has gone along, my openness to it has waned to the point where it amazes me that anyone still subscribes to it. I guess there are lots of Fonzie&#039;s out there who can&#039;t say they were wro-wrrro-wwrroo. Lol.</div><div class="quoteExpand">Click to expand...</div></blockquote>
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