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Clarity

Will Bryant
Staff member
Hey all,

Sorry it's been so long. Things haven't been good, and there are only so many times I can come on and tell people that. I know it's been suggested that I could come on and post and just not talk about that stuff, but the sad reality at this point is it's all that exists for us right now.

Your support during this period, both before and after it all "came out", has been wonderful, appreciated, and really our one saving grace.

It became clear some time ago that rather than having lots of people kicking in a little towards the site (well, towards me), our drives instead amounted to a small group kicking in a lot. I know I've rambled on at length before about the mixture of sincere gratitude and shame, but this gets harder to deal with when people whom I consider friends are having to go so long and deep out of their own pockets to help me keep my nose above water. We dodged a cataclysmic collapse of our domestic situation a few months back, and I've been extraordinarily appreciative of that, and remain so. We're on the cusp of another, and I've made several moves to try and handle that on our own, but as that approached, it became clear to me that I needed to really put some thought into what's "fair" and "right" with BP. I'm not sure that asking the same people to give, over and over, is right. Actually, I'm certain it's not.

My interest with the site has always been to keep it as low-impact as possible on everyone. For the users, which we all are, it meant being completely non-commercial. No fees, no ads, no in-your-face fund raising drives. For years, even as we grew by leaps and bounds, we also had virtually no expenses. Amazingly, the hosting and colocation was free. Obviously that changed recently, and while the company hosting us (entirely out of respect for my sorry state) gave us a ridiculously low rate, even a pittance is a small fortune from where I'm currently sitting. I am simply unable to sustain it, as I am also simply unable to support myself.

So as I considered this, I looked at how we've been bringing in money, for the new server for example, and for my basic needs when all that came out. What I felt, was that in an effort to avoid a moneycentric atmosphere, I've effectively created one by way of letting the funding drives turn into centralized and high-profile efforts.

What I believe at present is that under the right circumstances, adding banner-based advertising to the site will actually be less invasive in terms of the end user experience than the present method of user contribution. Moreover, it can provide (and quickly, with a base guarantee) an amount of money that would allow me to both sustain the site, and (I admit regretfully) fulfil my needs until the court process is completed, and/or when and if I have a diagnosis and therefore a treatment.

Enter a young advertising firm called SportsWar. Started by a guy who runs a UVA fan site with an approach strikingly similar to our own. Like us, his site is fiercely independent. Like us, he has a terrific group of people who interact there. Like us, they grew by way of an organic and community based process that involved user participation and consideration. And, like us, they grew to a point where the expenses could no longer be handled by one man. But, I'm straying from the point. SportsWar provides national-level, topical advertising for sites just like ours. Sites that want to be their own brand, don't want to answer to anyone, and want absolute authority over their own content and experience.

What this would mean is a standard banner across the top, and a tower banner across one side. What it won't mean, is music forced on you. It also won't mean interstitials, "pop-up" or otherwise interactive in-your-face ads. It also won't mean just any old ad. These would be companies, products, and services relevant to college football fans, and with some frequency, relevant to Ohio State fans, Ohio State, Ohio, Columbus, etc. We're not talking about joining doubleclick or 24/7 here, but rather a very, very selective group of independent college football fan sites who pool their resources and ability to meet their needs and enable future growth. It's not a network in the Scout or Rival sense, it's a community of communities, without any of the individual members giving up anything but a little space on their pages.

Am I rationalizing this? Or trying to sell it? I don't know. Maybe. Look, I don't now, nor have I ever wanted ads on the site. But you know what--I don't now, nor have I ever wanted to have to come to you, my friends, asking for money towards the site, and certainly not for me personally. I honestly believe the SportsWar opportunity to be the lower impact, less invasive opportunity between the two.

Which brings me to this post. I simply won't do it, until I've heard from you. Like anything else during BP's short life, this too is a community issue, and requires your input and perspective.

A couple points I want to close with. Nothing about BP, as a community, as a philosophy, is changing here either way. Nothing about what I believe, and how I operate, is changing here either way. I want to see BP carry forward, and the unfortunate reality is that it is tied to me, and is therefore skating on thin ice. I've turned away literally countless opportunities to sell or otherwise monetize the site. I don't mind stating flatly that many of them would have meant far more money than the SportsWar opportunity does, but none of them came with that familiar community approach, and absolute level of control over what we put on our own pages. I've been called "foolish" and "arrogant" for telling people I would rather close the site than ever see an invasive pop-up ad, or any of the other things (big in-your-face flash ads, forced streaming media, etc.) that drive me away from other websites. When I made these points to SportsWar, they responded with (I paraphrase), "that's fine with us, because we'd never put that garbage on our sites either." The people placing the ads are the same ones who run sites like BP. And in many cases, much bigger and older sites with deeper needs.

I do genuinely believe that this move will make BP less about money than it is now, and provide me a means of personal correction as well as enable more active participation and site improvement. It means no more fundraisers probably. And those who just can't stomach ads, who also know me, know that I'm not going to change anything about my "Your computer, you should have complete control of it" thread -- specifically the bit about HOSTS files. BP is, and by my absolute intent will remain free. We just have to be creative about how to meet its needs, and so I present the one and only ad concept that has met my approval to the point that I felt comfortable taking it to the admins, who in turn were comfortable enough to take it to you.

Finally, I am sorry I've been so absent lately. I suppose I'm sort of just letting days slip into weeks into months, just trying to get by and cope with various issues in pursuit of some sort of meaningful solution. There have been some developments. I ended up in the hospital last month, and after I saw the intern, she passed me off to her resident. After I saw him, he passed me on to the attending. And for the first time ever, a doctor heard the full scope of my issues and said "I'd be willing to bet a good deal that I know exactly what this is, and here's how we find out." Of course, "how" wasn't possible at the hospital, but we set it up, and with a little help from the courts, may soon realize that test. On the court front, we got a call from Congresswoman Pryce's office, and were told the court is in the process of scheduling a new date as soon as possible. We were also told, that even if this is finally our moment of approval, that it will take months to see relief. So while there's no good news, there's the clear and identifiable hope that perhaps good news is on the way. That, at least, is something.

One last time. This is a proposition made to me, which I decided to take to the admins. The admins in turn felt it was worth taking to you. A decision has not been made, that's the sincere purpose of this post.
 
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Speaking for myself Clarity, I support any and all ways you feel the need for in order to keep BP up and running. Along with that I also have no problem whatsoever donating cash for the upkeep of the site. I've been here pretty much from the beginning and I would do anything I can to help you and BuckeyPlanet. I'm confident that any decsions you make will be the right ones.

Hang in there and know that we are all praying for you and your family.
 
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Clarity - whatever you decide to do about this site is absoultely fine. I, for one, am honored that you'd even think of what may be the communities wishes in light of your situation. The fact that you consider "our" desires at all speaks volumes of the kind of person you are.. and you are the kind of person that deserves my respect... our respect. If you think this ad idea is workable and the right solution, I completely trust that it is the right move.

I hope this Doc. figures it out for you soon. As always, best wishes and keep on truckin.
 
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I don't think that I, or anyone else for that matter would care if there were ads on the site Will. But don't think for one minute that I won't come up with another way to get you money. That's just the type of person that I am and will continue to be. We don't do the fundraisers because we feel that we have to, we do them because we want to do them and we care. You have given us more than you know and I am very appreciative of that.

Having said that... you do what you feel is best.
 
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Clarity,

I think that you've gotta do what you gotta do in this situation. If the banners help out your situation, which in turn helps out Buckeyeplanet...........then by all means, go for it. The true concern here is for your health and overall well being......I hope that you are doing ok my man.

Put me in the column who is in support of whatever you've got to do here. The community will stay the same, regardless......because the members make it what it is.
 
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Clarity, your vision for this site has always been a wonderful ideal. Since life's realities have created a situation where a minor change is needed to continue its operation, I will not be bothered at all by the changes you described, and will continue to enjoy BP and contribute what I can to it.

I think (and hope) that you'll find that almost all of the people that spend a fair amount of time on the site would support any decsion you make regarding the way it functions.
 
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First....

I never felt the fundraisers were much more than sort of a PBS pledge drive...

And... while I do understand that the frequency of them is getting to the point that its seems like we're doing it constantly... I would think its best if we look at continuing them on an anuual or semi annual basis.....

Even if...

Second...

If the SportsWar thing is reasonably tolerable to you, Will...

Please do it.

Third....

So while there's no good news, there's the clear and identifiable hope that perhaps good news is on the way. That, at least, is something.

glad to hear, "hope."

Very Glad.
 
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I'll say that I find an equal level of discomfort with both options. I suppose I lean towards the banners right now only because it means not taking money out of anyone's (anyone here) pocket.

Putting ads on the site would be a major step, and not one that I would be excited about. It basically comes down to the SportsWar offer being more or less as site friendly as I've ever seen. That it's run by fansites very much like our own is somewhat reassuring. But, it's a slippery slope, isn't it?

I want to run with whatever we, collectively, are most comfortable with. One thing I will state with near absolute certainty, is that I can't ever envision BP as a pay-for-content site. I mean, that's been done, a few different places, and been done well. We fill a relatively open niche right now, as does the O-Zone. Blogs and personal sites fill yet another one. I just basically never see BP moving to a different weight class when our interest is community interaction rather than producing a commercially viable product. A lot of that is just my perspective though -- I've always been much more interested in the perspectives of other fans with their varied range of access and insight, than I have been about a paid writer meeting a word/article quota. It doesn't make that writer's work "bad", on the contrary, the pay sites out there provide a level of access we just never could. But I wanted this place to be about us, and serve as an arena where guys like Highstreet could get started, be heard, and move on -- or where athletes or their families could see fans as a slightly different group of people than the ugly side their exposed to elsewhere.

Ah, I'm rambling now.

I'm going to try and find some links to other sites that have signed on with SportsWar, so we can all see exactly what we're talking about here.
 
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My first thought was "Why are you even asking?...do it!"...but of course that's the kind of person you are, that we've all come to realize. Do, absolutely, anything you have to do as far as I'm concerned...if this deal is best, go for it, if it isn't, then go for something else, but please meet your needs however you see fit. Whereas this is certainly a community, we are nowhere without you, so there's no way I'm going to tell you anything other than do what you need to...the rest of us will adjust.
 
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Clarity,

I will just echo what others have already said. The fact that you even care what I may think blows me away. You really want to know what I want?...OK...Here's what I want. Do what you need to do for you, not us. That's what I want...
 
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Clarity,

I hope that all is well with you health wise and continued improvements are made. I don't know all the details in your situation about your health, but my prayers and thoughts will go to the throne for you. Whatever BP deciedes to
do I will support any decsion you make regarding the way BP functions.

Take care brother
 
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I hope everyone understands that I'm not looking for you guys to just rubber stamp the idea. I really want honest feelings and wishes on the issue for the sake of getting something of a barometric reading. Saying "ads are a horrific idea, and here's why" is not in any way tantamount to launching an attack on me. On the contrary, my own personal approach to issues like these is focusing aggressively on the subject's negatives and weaknesses before considering the positives.

Not saying I don't appreciate all the perspectives that have already come in, I do. Just saying that if there are people out there who feel strongly ads are NOT the way we should go, then you really need to speak up and be heard as well. No one is going to get attacked or abused in this thread for sharing their perspective on the issue, as this is something that will affect us all.
 
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