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A look ahead to 07-08' Big Ten Season

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Beilein was a hideously bad choice by the Weasels. Michigan continues their track record of coaching mediocrity. I'm sure the slow white boy theme will play great in Detroit.

Lickliter to Iowa is more interesting. And Tubby to Minnesota could help revive that program.

Overall, I see little change in the hierarchy, though. Buckeyes, Badgers, Hoosiers and Sparty followed by al the others.
 
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Boilers Fan;805567; said:
Yeah crazybuckfan you beat me to it about Lutz but I was gonna mention you could remove him from your Purdue writeup :(. Lutz missed his family and wanted to move back east. Same deal with Uchendu. Uchendu won't be a big loss, he was a nonfactor for us all season long. Lutz will be a bit bigger of a loss, being our top 3 point shooter percentage wise. I think we'll be ok though, have a 5 star guard E'Twaun Moore coming in from East Chicago (his team beat Eric Gordon's team for the Indiana 4a state title). Maybe Lutz also saw the writing on the wall, who knows.

By the way, crazybuckfan I saw your message I will get back to ya later today.
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Yeah I thought about Lutz maybe seeing the writing on the wall with all the good players coming in...

I am interested for your take, especially on the incoming guys and how you think they will fit it with what is already there, and what you think you guys might do with you look of a front court...
 
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Sent you a message crazybuckfan. I am a little surprised some people have Wisky ranked in the top 3 of the conference next year. I really see them falling off quite a bit next year, being the 5th or 6th best team in the conference.

I see things going like this.

1. OSU
2. IU
3. MSU
4. Purdue
5. Wisky
6. Illinois
7. Iowa
8. PSU
9. Michigan
10. Minnesota
11. Northwestern

In reality I think the bottom 4 or 5 teams could be interchangeable with each other though, not much separation between them talent-wise.
 
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MaxBuck;805682; said:
Beilein was a hideously bad choice by the Weasels. Michigan continues their track record of coaching mediocrity. I'm sure the slow white boy theme will play great in Detroit.
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I said this in another thread, but it bears repeating. Why do you think Beilein was a "hideously bad choice"? He accomplished more, in a tougher conference, with less talent, than Amaker ever did.

As for Michigan's fortunes this year, they will be very much up and down as they look to be a very young team. Only one player returns as a senior. Most of the talent will be in the incoming freshman class. I don't know where you guys are getting the idea that Harris and Legion are on their way out, but Legion has affirmed his commitment, according to the Detroit News, and will meet with Beilein tomorrow (contrary to the claim that there has been no contact.)

Anyway, since the team will be learning a new and fairly unique system, and since the team's fortunes rest on a bunch of underclassmen, the team will probably be inconsistent, not just week to week or game to game, but timeout to timeout. Many growing pains.
 
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HailToMichigan;806206; said:
I said this in another thread, but it bears repeating. Why do you think Beilein was a "hideously bad choice"? He accomplished more, in a tougher conference, with less talent, than Amaker ever did.

As for Michigan's fortunes this year, they will be very much up and down as they look to be a very young team. Only one player returns as a senior. Most of the talent will be in the incoming freshman class. I don't know where you guys are getting the idea that Harris and Legion are on their way out, but Legion has affirmed his commitment, according to the Detroit News, and will meet with Beilein tomorrow (contrary to the claim that there has been no contact.)

Anyway, since the team will be learning a new and fairly unique system, and since the team's fortunes rest on a bunch of underclassmen, the team will probably be inconsistent, not just week to week or game to game, but timeout to timeout. Many growing pains.
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I think the thing with Belein is it will be interesting to see how he recruits...Can he pull the big time players in or is he going to try and win with his system and recruit guys that arent really rated high...

As for where the info was coming from it was coming from Michigan sources...I am still hearing that even after the visits yesterday that the chances are still not very high...Yes there is a chance, but from what I am hearing and reading it doesnt look they are good chances...Beilein still has a chance to real them in in the next week, but I would say the chances are higher on Harris than Legion...
 
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HailToMichigan;806206; said:
I said this in another thread, but it bears repeating. Why do you think Beilein was a "hideously bad choice"? He accomplished more, in a tougher conference, with less talent, than Amaker ever did.
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How many coaches aren't better than Amaker?

I don't think Beilein is a bad choice for Michigan, but hardly a great one either as many UM homers are claiming (any fanbase would be like that tho). He will be a good coach, and help UM go from a bottom-third team to a mid-pack team. I don't see him consistently outplacing OSU, MSU or WISC... and I have a feeling Painter & Sampson will only improve as time passes.
HailToMichigan;806206; said:
I don't know where you guys are getting the idea that Harris and Legion are on their way out, but Legion has affirmed his commitment, according to the Detroit News, and will meet with Beilein tomorrow (contrary to the claim that there has been no contact.)
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This recent development is positive, but certainly does not disregard the negative scuttlebutt regarding Legion opting out of his UM LOI. You don't have to be well connected to hear those vibes.

Beilein's meeting with Manny (& family IIRC) certainly helped UM, but he's not a slamdunk to stick with UM either.
Anyway, since the team will be learning a new and fairly unique system, and since the team's fortunes rest on a bunch of underclassmen, the team will probably be inconsistent, not just week to week or game to game, but timeout to timeout. Many growing pains.
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Beilein picked a rough time to take over UM, even if he retains the freshmen. UM had a mediocre team before all of the departed seniors, and now faces a more talented big ten.
 
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crazybuckfan40;814328; said:
Looks like Legion has reopened his recruitment, been released from his LOI and will not be attending Michigan...
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Yep, though this may be a blessing in disguise for scUM. This kid seems like a bit of a primadonna from some of the articles and quotes I've read about/from him.

Legion said four schools that will likely be in the mix are UConn, UCLA, Kentucky and Kansas.
"It'll be one of those four," Legion said.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6694456
 
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CSI basketball lands transfer guard from Indiana

magicvalley.com
The College of Southern Idaho head men's basketball coach and assistant Jeff Renegar announced Tuesday that Joey Shaw, a redshirt freshman shooting guard from Indiana University will join the Golden Eagles program for the 2007-08 season. That announcement comes hand-in-hand with the announcement that redshirt freshman guard Daren Jordan will join CSI from Oral Roberts University, and on the heels of the announcement that talented shooting guard Harvey Perry will join the program after spending his redshirt and freshman years at the University of Washington.

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In Shaw, CSI gains a 6-foot-6 guard/forward that averaged 4.5 points and hit over 40 percent of his 3-point attempts as a redshirt freshman at Indiana. Shaw exploded for a season-high 16 points in a 74-67 road loss to eventual national championship runner-up Ohio State.

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The illini have forced a suspension/redshirt year, on likely starting guard from the team, Jamar Smith for his DUI/Crash last year. In other illini news, 3-star guard Quinton Watkins has not yet made the grades to be admited into the program. With the lose of both of these guards, Illini will not have any quality depth at the guard position this season.
 
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