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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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LordJeffBuck;1840388; said:
I usually agree with both of you, but consider this ... for the sake of the team, JT has to be seen as the players' advocate, not their adversary, and it would be difficult for him to do so if he imposes a punishment that is more strict than that imposed by the NCAA. I believe that it would also make it difficult for the school to appeal the five-game suspensions as being too harsh.
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I respectfully disagree. If the guys are guilty, they're guilty. Sit them now. I'm sure the NCAA will reduce next year's portion of the suspension to 4 games....and possibly 2 or 3 after appeal.

I will be deeply disappointed if Tressel doesn't start the suspension immediately. It sucks that the guys put themselves, their teammates, and Coach Tressel in this position....but they did. Deal with it.
 
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osugrad21;1840426; said:
Negative.

Your SEC speed failed you. The slow plodding Big Ten Admin was much faster in this instance.

Merry Christmas.
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Big Ten speed wins!! A sign of things to come?

I am so over talking about this [censored]ty situation. You might then ask, why did I open the thread and take the time to post. To that question, I respond....I dunno. Anyhow, Go Bucks!

Merry Christmas.
 
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TS10TW said:
This is already happening...third party background checks...anything from bankruptcies and foreclosures or just bad credit can keep you from getting hired. Not to mention felonies and other criminal activity that may be on record...how many speeding tickets or DUI or arrest warrants all will keep you from getting hired. I'm not saying a third party needs to make the ruling for the NFL but, the league can use the third party as more of a barometer on whether or nit they should take said player(s). Maybe some kids are physically ready but not emotionally/mentally ready and this would put more on the school/coaches/players to ensure the player is not just a good athlete but a good student & an upstanding citizen as well.
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I think that you just made my point. NFL teams should and certainly will consider the suspensions when judging the players' "character", but the suspensions should not prohibit the players from being eligible for the NFL draft.

As far as the CBA being re-negotiated, I don't see the NFLPA agreeing to reduce the number of players who are eligible for the draft, or either party (owners or players) allowing the NCAA to get involved in NFL affairs, but I suppose that it is theoretically possible.

DaveyBoy;1840428; said:
I respectfully disagree. If the guys are guilty, they're guilty. Sit them now. I'm sure the NCAA will reduce next year's portion of the suspension to 4 games....and possibly 2 or 3 after appeal.
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I see no reason why the NCAA would allow the Sugar Bowl to count as one of the five games when they already reversed the Sugar Bowl suspensions that Ohio State imposed on the players. The NCAA would likely say, "Your guys were eligible to play. If you suspended your players for violations of team rules, then that's none of our business. Our suspension is for the first five games of the 2011 season. Case closed."

DaveyBoy;1840428; said:
I will be deeply disappointed if Tressel doesn't start the suspension immediately. It sucks that the guys put themselves, their teammates, and Coach Tressel in this position....but they did. Deal with it.
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Then be prepared to be deeply disappointed. Deal with it.
 
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Coqui;1840439; said:
Put on a little weight?
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I'm more long than wide...but I'm cleaning up a bit for my buckeye friends.
 
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coldwaterclan;1840410; said:
I find it so sad that we all come on here and obsess about winning a B10 championship, about beating ttun, etc and then the players, the one's who actually take part in making these things happen, sell the awards given for said accomplishments as if they mean nothing. There is but one word for this: betrayal.
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Wow, are you serious? These guys did not sell their Buckeye souls, they sold objects. They will always have the experiences and memories which is the important thing. As far as I know, they've given their all in their time as Buckeyes so it doesn't bother me that they've sold some momentos. Certain things have different values to different people and material possessions are not that important to me. Getting $1000 for a piece of metal seems like a good deal if you're in need of cash from my perspective. All this said, breaking the rules and thus hurting teammates/coaches is disappointing.
 
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I'm not clear on this "let's have a poll on whether the players should play in the Sugar Bowl"thing. What exactly is the point? Is it so when the coaching staff decides to do something different, you can get yourself all righteously indignant and pissed off? Cause I really can't think of any other reason, since the coaching staff isn't going to factor in our opinions in any event.

Merry Christmas, everyone! And GO BUCKS!
 
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MaxBuck;1840451; said:
I'm not clear on this "let's have a poll on whether the players should play in the Sugar Bowl"thing. What exactly is the point? Is it so when the coaching staff decides to do something different, you can get yourself all righteously indignant and pissed off? Cause I really can't think of any other reason, since the coaching staff isn't going to factor in our opinions in any event.

Merry Christmas, everyone! And GO BUCKS!
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1. Merry Christmas :osu:

2. That's really a dumb perspective, IMO. Why talk about anything on these boards in that case?

It's discussed because it's a topic of interest/contention.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1840441; said:
I think that you just made my point. NFL teams should and certainly will consider the suspensions when judging the players' "character", but the suspensions should not prohibit the players from being eligible for the NFL draft.

As far as the CBA being re-negotiated, I don't see the NFLPA agreeing to reduce the number of players who are eligible for the draft, or either party (owners or players) allowing the NCAA to get involved in NFL affairs, but I suppose that it is theoretically possible.


I see no reason why the NCAA would allow the Sugar Bowl to count as one of the five games when they already reversed the Sugar Bowl suspensions that Ohio State imposed on the players. The NCAA would likely say, "Your guys were eligible to play. If you suspended your players for violations of team rules, then that's none of our business. Our suspension is for the first five games of the 2011 season. Case closed."


Then be prepared to be deeply disappointed. Deal with it.
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Regardless....if they're guilty, they're guilty. The timing of the suspension should not supercede doing the right thing...especially considering the offense took place a long time ago. The ruling on serving the suspensions next year is highly arbitrary. I know this puts Tressel in a horrible position to have to possibly side with enacting discipline that hurts the whole team and puts in a very strong position to lose to Arkansas. But that's part of the damage done by these individuals and they will have to face up to the fact that they led to the loss in the bowl.

I think we have a 50/50 shot to beat Arkansas even with the 5 guys.

I have a sick feeling that Tressel is going to fumble this one the way he fumbled the Reynolds choking incident.
 
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