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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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Oh8ch said:
Nobody who has thought it through does and here is why.

1. They violated a bullshit rule, but it is the NCAAs rule and we play in the NCAA. So fine. Follow the rule.

2. The NCAA (largely for reasons of financial gain) said they could play.

3. The bullshit rule was made by the NCAA and the (excessive) penalty meted out by the NCAA. Their rule. their penalty.

4. No laws were broken (like stealing a laptop). Nobody got hurt (like beating someone up in a bar). No one's life was put at risk (like drunk driving). Nobody got raped (not even the night before the game). No competitive advantage was gained (like extra practice time).

Other than not being forthcoming about what happened there are no "moral" issues here. (Notwithstanding the offense many take at the sale of treasured OSU memorabilia - which is a separate issue entirely.)

5. Why should Jim Tressel go above and beyond the NCAA specified penalty to the detriment of the Sugar Bowl (who lobbied for the kids to play in the interest of monies thousands of times the value of the items sold), the detriment of the OSU fan base and the detriment of the OSU team (whose seniors voted for them to play)? Just to make an example in regards to a bullshit rule.

Because of timing? Because after hearing about this incident three weeks before the game they didn't drag their feet until after the game while they "gathered the facts"?

6. At the end of the day OSU is 100% in compliance with what the NCAA has asked them to do. Nothing more to see here.


And to add a personal footnote. I have a connection to someone whose brother played in a minor bowl. His "goodie" bag contained an electronic item that costs about $225. He doesn't want it. I was offered the item for $150 because he would prefer to have the cash.

Prior to this incident I wouldn't have thought twice about the implications of such an offer. Nor should I. But it is for a transaction almost identical to this that some propose we pull the rug out from under the Sugar Bowl.
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i personally see how you could be against them playing, i personally hold that view.

however, as you clearly and relatively sophisticatedly pointed out the rational for allowing them to play also exists.

either way a certain percent of fans, media, and people in general would bellyache.
 
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I'm glad the final day to declare for the draft is 1/15/11 so the talking heads can soon stop rolling their eyes and using smarmy tones like "they say they're coming back, but..." when talking about our guys.
 
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Jake;1852403; said:
I'm glad the final day to declare for the draft is 1/15/11 so the talking heads can soon stop rolling their eyes and using smarmy tones like "they say they're coming back, but..." when talking about our guys.
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:lol: I haven't listened to a talking head in seven years. I used to look forward to watching ESPN the day after a Buckeye win. That is, until ESPN started being cocksuckers. I'm tellin' ya, it's so much better not watching. Also, I believe it saved me some jail time, becuase I'd have fought at least one of them dickholes by now.
 
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BUCKYLE;1852410; said:
:lol: I haven't listened to a talking head in seven years. I used to look forward to watching ESPN the day after a Buckeye win. That is, until ESPN started being [censored]s. I'm tellin' ya, it's so much better not watching. Also, I believe it saved me some jail time, becuase I'd have fought at least one of them dickholes by now.
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This.

I can honestly say the post-game Sugar Bowl coverage was the only ESPN I've watched this season outside of broadcasts. It's really a shame.
 
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Jake;1852403; said:
I'm glad the final day to declare for the draft is 1/15/11 so the talking heads can soon stop rolling their eyes and using smarmy tones like "they say they're coming back, but..." when talking about our guys.
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I agree !!

Even the local guys seem to say they aren't coming back (directly/indirectly)
 
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Ohio State to Appeal Player Suspensions
From OSU Press Release

COLUMBUS, Ohio--Ohio State has notified the NCAA that it will appeal the reinstatement decisions for its football student-athletes. The university has requested this appeal be heard via a teleconference, which would include university officials and the student-athletes.

The appeal will be heard by the Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, an independent committee comprised of representatives from NCAA member colleges, universities and athletic conferences.

This committee?s decision is final. It can reduce or remove the reinstatement conditions, but it cannot increase the conditions imposed by the NCAA national office reinstatement staff.

An appeals teleconference date has not been set as cases with student-athletes currently in season will be given priority.

Ohio State student-athletes involved in this case are able to practice, participate in workouts and all other permissible offseason activities, including spring practice and the spring game, which is not competition but rather the final spring practice session.
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seems like if they haven't announced anything yet, then they probably aren't going. It would probably be even shadier if some of the announced they were leaving on the last possible day and then hightailed it out of Columbus. Maybe shady isn't the right word, but it would be sad if it went down that way.
 
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WolverineMike;1853192; said:
seems like if they haven't announced anything yet, then they probably aren't going. It would probably be even shadier if some of the announced they were leaving on the last possible day and then hightailed it out of Columbus. Maybe shady isn't the right word, but it would be sad if it went down that way.
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Don't lie...that would not be anywhere close to your reaction :biggrin:
 
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