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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

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You can tell that Ryan still sort of put the clamps on Chip a little too. Just check out the wild shit Chip is doing with NW right now for example.

Ryan Day needs his Ryan Day lol… what I mean is Ryan Day arrived in 2017 and totally changed how the offense operated. We need that at some point to keep growing.

Even Nick Saban admitted he changed a lot over the years. Was more pro style, then went no huddle, then aired it out a bunch, then went back to the option looks. Ryan (much like UFM) keeps stating we run the Ohio State offense. That’s great but after 9 years teams have a good bit of information on what we’re likely to do.

My hope is that we see a return of the QB run. Not as a last resort but as a feature to open up the run game for the RBs. I’m not talking JT Barrett but more like 5-8 called zone reads. We won’t do it but we should considering Luke’s mobility.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So for the new QB, whoever it is, coming in...what does this offense do well and how can it help bring the new guy along?

What do we do well offensively? THTGDB.
-We are #1 in Yards per attempt (10.7) That's it. That is the identity. We get more out of every pass attempt than anyone else.
-Our success rate per drop back is 55.1%, good for 5th.
-Yards per completion also 5th, at 15.6 ypc

We do not throw it all that often surprisingly (45.86% which is 86th in CFB).
We do not protect the QB very well QB sack % is 6.61%, 82nd in the country
We do not protect the football particularly well; 1.1 giveaways per game, 56th in the country
We are not particularly well disciplined; 52 penalty yards per game, good for 50th in the country

And we can't run the ball for shit
-rushing success rate; 45%, 59th in the country
-yards per attempt: 4, good for 80th
-but we do try often 54.14%, 51st

This whole thing is built on an elite passing game that (even when healthy) gets shut down/severely degraded by teams that can pressure Sayin.

The rest of everything about the offense is middling to poor (50's down into the 80's).

A healthy Sayin throwing to 4 was covering up the ferocious mediocrity of the rest of the offensive side of the ball. Now we need the already mid or worse offense to help lift up the true freshman QB.

I hadn't realized just how bad the rest of it is to be honest. This is a fucking mess.
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Very good analysis. I hope this brings down fans' expectations a bit. As Day pointed out, hoping is not a strategy. So our fringe will do lunatic things.

My other hope is that the running game is not as inept as the numbers suggested. When watching the game, it felt like the running game has been steady and effective. Zero long runs really hurt the stats.

It's much harder to comprehend the passing game. Sayin has been very good, but clearly has limitations. But it seems to be a stretch to expect a freshman to throw like a redshirt freshman.

Somehow Fahey gave me the vibe of Pavia.
 
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restless said:
Very good analysis. I hope this brings down fans' expectations a bit. As Day pointed out, hoping is not a strategy. So our fringe will do lunatic things.

My other hope is that the running game is not as inept as the numbers suggested. When watching the game, it felt like the running game has been steady and effective. Zero long runs really hurt the stats.

It's much harder to comprehend the passing game. Sayin has been very good, but clearly has limitations. But it seems to be a stretch to expect a freshman to throw like a redshirt freshman.

Somehow Fahey gave me the vibe of Pavia.
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I think the run success against IU was more a conscious decision by IU to still cheat toward 4 and just live with the running allowed (knowing we don’t t have a home run threat).

I know that sounds BMW but there is at least a fair chance that was the case.

I go with what my eyes see and the numbers back up- this offense is incredibly mediocre but for 4 and that is with all the cheating/shading other defenses have to do to account for him.

You take out an experienced distributor at QB no matter how limited against good teams he really was, and this team can get very average very quickly.

On the other hand we could just look at it and say we were never going to win shit with Sayin at QB anyway so maybe this is the stressor the team needs to actually grow in a way that’s just very difficult to envision right now.

Who knows?
 
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I'm inclined to agree with your last point. I think we have enough sample size to say, empirically and non-judgmentally, that Sayin's ceiling was much lower than we thought. It just doesn't matter if you throw for 80% against mid-pack and worse teams if you can't win against the teams that matter and we've seen that enough times now to be skeptical of progression. Nothing would've changed, though, nor should it have, the rest of this season had he not been injured. It happened, though, so now we see what we have in the pantry and start looking online for the next portal purchase(s).
 
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RugbyBuck said:
I'm inclined to agree with your last point. I think we have enough sample size to say, empirically and non-judgmentally, that Sayin's ceiling was much lower than we thought. It just doesn't matter if you throw for 80% against mid-pack and worse teams if you can't win against the teams that matter and we've seen that enough times now to be skeptical of progression. Nothing would've changed, though, nor should it have, the rest of this season had he not been injured. It happened, though, so now we see what we have in the pantry and start looking online for the next portal purchase(s).
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Expecting Fahey to be better than Sayin is foolish. Fahey will be what he is. Hopefully just win I don’t care how it looks. But if Sayin is out through the playoffs develop Fahey or St Clair for next year.
 
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