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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

The penalties have to be harsh otherwise what’s the deterrent? It would absolutely be worth it for other programs if they get to keep the rewards for their past few seasons.

You have to take the wins. You have to not recognize the titles. Then you have to punish them going forward for at least 2 seasons.

You have to make it harsh.
This is the way.
 
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premierdrum:: 15 hours ago
As we move through these final weeks before the hearing keep in mind that this procedure is for all those named in the NOA, aside from the 2 who resolved their cases separately as cooperators. Indy is on lockdown, and any chatter that gets picked up has motivation.
My regular folks have largely quieted down, but the wild emails and texts are coming fast and furiously. There's a pretty obvious effort to muddy the the waters, with a certain not-so-tiny-Tim likely involved. Ono is bailing. Warde wants all the blame on Jim. Moore wants all the blame on Stalions.
When we first broke last July the "minimum framework" proposed by enforcement staff, the "minimum" designation seemed outlandish given what was being asked. It seems that reality is slowly setting in outside of the OSU / MSU/ Rocky Top circles that this wasn't some cute game of grabass Connor was playing with the rulebook. This was a well organized, well funded, and at least partially internally acknowledged multi-year cheating operation. It defies logic to think they won't be punished as such.
Lack of compliance. Lack of candor. Lack of cooperation.

“Deceitfulness, and arrogance, and pride, Quickness to anger, harsh and evil speech, And ignorance, to its own darkness blind. These be the signs, my prince! of him whose birth Is fated for the regions of the vile." - The Bhagavad Gita

premierdrum: 1 hour ago
I've read Tony Petitti's 11/10/23 letter to UM dozens of times, if not more. There's a decent chance I could recite chunks of it from memory, as it's been a helpful companion asset in organizing the order of events once the case was disclosed.
While direct and stern, it is squarely fact-based in outlining the scheme and its discovery.
There's one line on page 12 that jumped out at me today:
"...the Conference vehemently rejects any defense by the University or any other Conference member that cheating is acceptable because other teams do it too."
While only named thus far as an "impermissible scheme," they let this solitary "cheating" reference slip thru.

Just sayin': Aside from paying to get recruits and keeping them eligible through "fake academics", I don't ever remember "a well organized, well funded, and internally acknowledged multi-year cheating operation" like this ever happening before. The NCAA (and B1G) has to set a precedence here and penalize scUM but good so no other school would even think about doing anything similar.
 
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The penalties have to be harsh otherwise what’s the deterrent? It would absolutely be worth it for other programs if they get to keep the rewards for their past few seasons.

You have to take the wins. You have to not recognize the titles. Then you have to punish them going forward for at least 2 seasons.

You have to make it harsh.
There could also be additional penalties issued by the Big Ten I would imagine.
 
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Sorry to interrupt your recital, but I've been reading this thread and laughing.

They're whining because people are considering making it a 16-team playoff, instead of 12.

They are REALLY upset that Ohio State had a chance to win a championship.
They're crying because 16 games is "too many". The kids must be so tired, right?
Why don't you ask any of the Ohio State players if 16 games was too many?
You know what? Ask the Notre Dame players if 16 games was too many. See if they're happy to have had a chance to win it all. Or even Texas or Penn State. Do you think THEIR players wanted to play in an additional game? Or were they "too tired"?
Maybe I figured it out - *ichigan was too smart to make it into the playoffs - they knew their players would be too tired, so they tanked a couple of games. Right?
 
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