2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

[zbuck]

Sorry to be repetitive, but the main thing that's pissing me off about this whole situation currently is that the charges appear to be all about "aggravated failure to monitor" rather than LOIC, when this seems like a textbook case of LOIC.

I believe the penalty structure for both FTM and LOIC are similar. This is the NCAA playing it safe. But don't despair brother because the rumors are that there is another possible NOA that will absolutely bring in the LOIC. Fingers crossed ....

 

[Captain Buckeye]

Yea. They probably finish the regular season 8-4 or 7-5 in 2021 without the cheating and maybe Harbaugh gets sacked after that.

You're right the damage had already been done by 2023. I think they did benefit greatly from the usual players being very meh though, that's what really boosted them to the title in the end in context of that season. It's laughable that with all the cheating it took 3 tries and some luck to finally get it. If Ohio State, UGA, Bama were running the same scheme they'd be cartoonishly dominant

Yes, it was all jump started by their 2021 season. They won the big ten with Cade McNamara as the QB if anyone needs proof of what they took.

Then you’re right also that a bunch of kids kept coming back for their senior years after that which helped them. Do they do that without winning the big ten and adding another loss to Ohio state though? Hell no I don’t think so.

 

[Buckeneye]

I believe the penalty structure for both FTM and LOIC are similar. This is the NCAA playing it safe. But don't despair brother because the rumors are that there is another possible NOA that will absolutely bring in the LOIC. Fingers crossed ....

Connor Stallions was on the sidelines for that Sparty game, I believe with a visitors badge? Which means someone on the CMU staff approved him being there. Likely means plenty of communication before hand with said CMU staff member.
This should be straight forward. Does CMU keep a log of who approves and issues visitor requests/badges? Most every university does. Great. Who made the request and signed off? Most importantly, whose name is listed as the visitor? Doubtful Stallions used his own name, which only furthers the case of individual efforts coordinating into a systemic attempt at hiding evidence.


If the NOA tossed at CMU is part of the aftermath from the investigation into scUM, then I can't image this not being LOIC.


Edit: Covid was the best thing that has happened to *ichigan football in the last 30 years. It allowed them to duck an ass beating from tOSU that would have lead to a house cleaning of the coaching staff (bye Harbaugh) meaning no Stallions.

Instead, they got to scheme the later Fall and Winter of 2020 away in the most devious ways possible. Connor comes up to the coaching staff and provides them with a solution to save their jobs. Works a treat in 21' and he's hired just after in early 2022.

Stallions was the 2nd best thing to happen to those ass clowns.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

No visitor badge. A complete cosplay of a CMU coach.

 

[sammyjenkis]

Regarding their championship; they stopped a decent Alabama drive at the goal line that would have given Bama the win. I can't remember the exact play but I believe someone stumbled, or a blocker took the wrong read and the run just sort of punked out a foot or two short of the goal. I justrecall it as being a very un-Sabanesque play. The next game against Washington would have been an easy win for Saban.

I thought your were a Buckeye fan? How do you not recall the exact sequence of events that brought us our Remington Award-winning center last season? The Alabama QB Milroe had a shitty cadence leading to regular bad snaps - including in that final play. Bama then ran Seth out of town and into our arms because of course you can't fault your ego-driven QB (who would of course come back to miss the playoffs and lose another one to shitagain).

 

[zbuck]

Connor Stallions was on the sidelines for that Sparty game, I believe with a visitors badge? Which means someone on the CMU staff approved him being there. Likely means plenty of communication before hand with said CMU staff member.
This should be straight forward. Does CMU keep a log of who approves and issues visitor requests/badges? Most every university does. Great. Who made the request and signed off? Most importantly, whose name is listed as the visitor? Doubtful Stallions used his own name, which only furthers the case of individual efforts coordinating into a systemic attempt at hiding evidence.


If the NOA tossed at CMU is part of the aftermath from the investigation into scUM, then I can't image this not being LOIC.

Strong indications that Stallions was there at the bequest of CMU. Because a number of people in the coaching world knew of his "skill set". Everyone except Connor's own head coach Jimmy H ..... Riiight

When can we start feeding these fuckers through a wood-chipper ?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Strong indications that Stallions was there at the bequest of CMU. Because a number of people in the coaching world knew of his "skill set". Everyone except Connor's own head coach Jimmy H ..... Riiight

When can we start feeding these fuckers through a wood-chipper ?

Connor wasn't there to help CMU against MSU. At Michigan, he's in the pocket of the OC and DC, screaming into their ears. At CMU, he's in the background with his filming glasses.

My guess......he was there to get footage and confirm they still had the same signals that he already had.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Stallions is easy to bait. Just tell him he's not that smart and he starts talking and won't shut up.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Sitting on the Weis info until the playoffs were over is almost certainly what caused Ono to bail and try to ink a fat contract before it became public and he became toxic to any university in the country. I think he was prepared to weather out any ncaa sanctions by rallying the dfbia to him and maybe tossing down a race card.

 

[Jaxbuck]

The question I would ask him, if I was somehow engaged in conversation with the guy, is if it was so easy to learn signals in game, then why did you have all these people doing pre game in person scouting (because we know you did)?

 

[Buckeneye]

The question I would ask him, if I was somehow engaged in conversation with the guy, is if it was so easy to learn signals in game, then why did you have all these people doing pre game in person scouting (because we know you did)?

The answer is straight forward, you just won't hear it from anything within earshot of scUMs program.

When you've painstakingly gathered intel, you have to make sure you've verified to what degree is the Intel still accurate? 25%? 50%? 75%?

Then, per any SOP, how can you improve your processes of operation? Well, spy glasses tend to help. So now you've incorporated technology in such a way that allows you to capture signals you may not have had -or- signals that have changed, while referencing your paperwork for signals you have that are still valid.

I see both recon and field testing, when I see Connor on the CMU sidelines. I see someone working at perfecting their methods - increasing efficiency and efficacy.

 

[cincibuck]

I thought your were a Buckeye fan? How do you not recall the exact sequence of events that brought us our Remington Award-winning center last season? The Alabama QB Milroe had a shitty cadence leading to regular bad snaps - including in that final play. Bama then ran Seth out of town and into our arms because of course you can't fault your ego-driven QB (who would of course come back to miss the playoffs and lose another one to shitagain).

Sammy, I've been more than patient with you. Why don't you take your problems somewhere where you'll get the attention you crave?

 

[zbuck]

Connor wasn't there to help CMU against MSU. At Michigan, he's in the pocket of the OC and DC, screaming into their ears. At CMU, he's in the background with his filming glasses.

My guess......he was there to get footage and confirm they still had the same signals that he already had.

I hear you. That was my take all along. But it would appear CS already had MSU signals. Was he somehow communicating with CMU coaches during the game ? I don't know. What I do know is that there are going to be some fun discoveries with the CMU NOA. There's a reason why the "shark fucker" isn't the head coach anymore. It's believed that CMU and UM tried to cover up as much as they could and lied to the NCAA. Unfortunately for them the NCAA already had receipts and they walked into a pile of shit. That's around the time that the NCAA amended the NOA for SCUM.

HAMMER TIME !!!

 

[Jaxbuck]

The answer is straight forward, you just won't hear it from anything within earshot of scUMs program.

When you've painstakingly gathered intel, you have to make sure you've verified to what degree is the Intel still accurate? 25%? 50%? 75%?

Then, per any SOP, how can you improve your processes of operation? Well, spy glasses tend to help. So now you've incorporated technology in such a way that allows you to capture signals you may not have had -or- signals that have changed, while referencing your paperwork for signals you have that are still valid.

I see both recon and field testing, when I see Connor on the CMU sidelines. I see someone working at perfecting their methods - increasing efficiency and efficacy.

oh, no doubt. All 100% spot on.

It just doesn't jive with Cpl Klinger and his "I'm so fucking smart I can decipher your signals in game and that isn't cheating" bullshit defense.

 

[NFBuck]

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This is a great opportunity to revisit.
Initially, there was a ton of speculation around the idea that "if that's the minimum acceptable, how much worse could it get?" Many aspects of the framework as reported are squarely in line with the prescribed core penalties (i.e. the core penalty for aggravated FTM is a 1-3 year postseason ban). Alteration of records has always been what seemed to catch folks up, as most incorrectly believe that records are only vacated for ineligible student athletes. The COI has broad freedoms in applying punishments that exist within the sanction structure as they see appropriate.
I think - and this is an informed assumption at this point - is that the motivation for UM to have settled within the framework would have been more with timing and less with holding out for less severe sanctions. Had they accepted around the time things were first presented one year ago this week, their punishments could be wrapping up after this season.
While each COI panel is different, there has been a noticeable emphasis in decisions over the past year or so on self-reporting, cooperation, and reaching negotiated agreements. And, as we've seen, vacation of records is a very routine sanction in decisions.
It's interesting to hear Spiro tonight talk about the radical mood shift up north in the last 36 hours or so, a strong "sense of impending doom." He said that today, staffers were given initial coaching on not responding to media requests or commenting publicly once things were released.
I was texting with Intrinsic today on a few topics, and shared with him that my source said this morning that they (UM) were "operating under the assumption that an infractions decision and case summary are imminent" but that they weren't in the notification window yet.
A compliance attorney told me that this week would "be the target" given the ramp up to this season and the impact on UM's staff.
It's unavoidable. They are expecting it any moment.
Their insiders have cued up their red meat greatest hits of Ryan Day's brother, their most public booster is melting down in a seemingly-drunken rage of conspiracy theories and poor grammar, and their golden boy / pariah can't stop defending all the things he "didn't do" on Twitter. They aren't comfortable. They're squirming.
And THE world-famous Ohio State Buckeyes are the defending National Champions.

Can somebody call me and leave a voicemail reading this in a low, sultry whisper? TIA.