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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

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BigWoof31 said:
The committee has ALOT to answer for this season. I’m all for bringing back the computers to determine our Top 12.

But the fact that Bama didn’t move at all after losing by 21 and Georgia didn’t move it all after winning by 21 is pretty indicative of a “let’s just get through this bullshit so we don’t have to answer any more questions” mindset from the committee.
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I think it's pretty simple. If they dropped Bama out for using the SEC title game, then the SEC would threaten to eliminate the SEC title game all together. ESPN/Disney owns the CFP and the SEC title game and ESPN/Disney would not like losing that extra money they rake in from the SEC title game.

Id say at this point just eliminate CCG games and take the playoff to 16 teams, play the first round the weekend that CCGs would normally be played.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I think it's pretty simple. If they dropped Bama out for using the SEC title game, then the SEC would threaten to eliminate the SEC title game all together. ESPN/Disney owns the CFP and the SEC title game and ESPN/Disney would not like losing that extra money they rake in from the SEC title game.

Id say at this point just eliminate CCG games and take the playoff to 16 teams, play the first round the weekend that CCGs would normally be played.
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I know we won't go backwards, but, wouldn't it make sense to treat CCG *as* a playoff game? Make that the first round? Lets go back to divisions, play everyone in your division - send the divisional winners after a week off to recover for the CCG. Conference winners then seed a national playoff.
 
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knuckifyoubuck said:
I know we won't go backwards, but, wouldn't it make sense to treat CCG *as* a playoff game? Make that the first round? Lets go back to divisions, play everyone in your division - send the divisional winners after a week off to recover for the CCG. Conference winners then seed a national playoff.
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So in your scenario is the CCG winner an auto in and the loser could still be a wildcard or are they done?

I think I know the answer just want to clarify if we’re talking more of a NFL model
 
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knuckifyoubuck said:
I know we won't go backwards, but, wouldn't it make sense to treat CCG *as* a playoff game? Make that the first round? Let’s go back to divisions, play everyone in your division - send the divisional winners after a week off to recover for the CCG. Conference winners then seed a national playoff.
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You’re right, there’s no going backwards.

But if they went to 14 and had the top-2 CCG winners get the only byes, they would accomplish getting more games and keep the CCGs as being meaningful.

It makes too much sense to actually happen.
 
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Steve19 said:
Our conversations are silent on the two teams from Mickey Mouse conferences that crawl in because...participation trophy. JMU? Stunning 4th quarter win against 5-6 Washington State? If I was a ND fan, I'd be asking why in the hell those guys get an auto bid.
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Eh we all know the rules before the season starts. I think once you lose 2 games you lose the right to complain. as a P4 (especially for the B1G SEC and ND) if you can stay under 2 losses you are getting in basically every year barring some freak season. Once you lose that 2nd game and put it into the hands of the committee, it's all on you at that point.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Eh we all know the rules before the season starts. I think once you lose 2 games you lose the right to complain. as a P4 (especially for the B1G SEC and ND) if you can stay under 2 losses you are getting in basically every year barring some freak season. Once you lose that 2nd game and put it into the hands of the committee, it's all on you at that point.
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I guess the issue is that the toughest games on their schedule are the warmup games everyone else is playing at the start of the season. And they will get blown out.
 
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BB73 said:
You’re right, there’s no going backwards.

But if they went to 14 and had the top-2 CCG winners get the only byes, they would accomplish getting more games and keep the CCGs as being meaningful.

It makes too much sense to actually happen.
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Thats my read essentially.

They aren't giving up those tv time slots/revenue for what we now have as CCG's. It's just not going to happen.

So make them consistently useful and adjust them to be "play in" games not a rigid CCG.

Details matter, you will have to expand the field (it's going to happen) but there you go. Problem solved (sort of).
 
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BigWoof31 said:
The committee has ALOT to answer for this season. I’m all for bringing back the computers to determine our Top 12.

But the fact that Bama didn’t move at all after losing by 21 and Georgia didn’t move it all after winning by 21 is pretty indicative of a “let’s just get through this bullshit so we don’t have to answer any more questions” mindset from the committee.
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I figured OSU would drop to 3 or 4 and UGA would move up to 2 after last Saturday. At the end of the day, I don't think it will make much difference though.
 
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zbuck said:
Why would anyone be shocked by this ? ESPN spends the entire season propping up the SEC rankings. Of course there going to continue with the fuckery through the final selections.
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It makes me furious when I hear the talking hairdos become all indignant at the notion. Disney is a public company,, and the primary legal fiduciary duty of the board, officers and senior executives of a public company is to maximize shareholder value. If they didn't work very hard to build up their fully owned SEC property while tearing down the fully competing B1G brand, not only could they be fired with cause but they could literally be the subjects of shareholder lawsuits.

I know that someone like Herby is too vapid to understand this, and he just duck quacks whatever line he's given (he's double plus good at it). He just needs to shut his trap about things that are beyond his cognitive abilities.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I think it's pretty simple. If they dropped Bama out for using the SEC title game, then the SEC would threaten to eliminate the SEC title game all together. ESPN/Disney owns the CFP and the SEC title game and ESPN/Disney would not like losing that extra money they rake in from the SEC title game.

Id say at this point just eliminate CCG games and take the playoff to 16 teams, play the first round the weekend that CCGs would normally be played.
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I think there are two options:

Guaranteed slots slots per conference and going to 14-16 so each conference can do play in games however they like. Oh and fuck ND.

Or going to 20-24 and play the first round during conference championship weekend.

I prefer the first one because we get more football.
 
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Ther is no fix for this because it’s structural.

These guys go behind closed doors and come up with whatever output they feel best serves their stakeholders (looking at you Disney)

It’s pointless trying to build new ways to circumvent “mistakes” or injustices because they don’t want that or even see this as flawed.

This is the structure they want. Opaque and inconsistent. Gives them room to do what they want.
 
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