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How Jim Harbaugh's Departure from Michigan Could Impact the Wolverines, Ohio State and the Rest of College Football

Jim Harbaugh has officially left Michigan for the NFL after nine seasons, and we examine the ripple effects that could have on the Wolverines and Ohio State.
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HOW JIM HARBAUGH'S DEPARTURE FROM MICHIGAN COULD IMPACT THE WOLVERINES, OHIO STATE AND THE REST OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL​

WHAT’S THE TRANSFER PORTAL CARNAGE FROM MICHIGAN’S ROSTER?​

That’s the million-dollar question.

With the Michigan job changing hands, Wolverines players will now have a 30-day window to enter the transfer portal. For context on the utter chaos that can bring to a program, following Saban’s retirement, 11 Crimson Tide players opted to transfer (that’s not including the ones already in the portal before the announcement).

Maybe a mass exodus won't follow in Ann Arbor. Moore's presumed hire should help bring some continuity to the program. The academic calendar is also already working against potential transfers enrolling at another institution for the spring semester, with many institutions having already reached their deadline to drop classes. However, that probably won't stop them from trying to find workarounds if necessary.

At least some attrition is probably unavoidable, though, even if it waits until the spring portal window begins in April. As we mentioned earlier, a good chunk of the premier talent on Michigan’s 2023 squad has either run out of eligibility or declared for the NFL Draft. But this is still a talented roster with plenty of players that would be desirable to other Power Four programs.

Will Johnson, Kenneth Grant, Donovan Edwards, Colston Loveland, Mason Graham and Rod Moore are just a handful of the names that would receive significant interest elsewhere should they opt to transfer.

It’s hard to imagine any of those guys transferring coming off a national championship. It's even harder to envision any Wolverine player potentially ending up at Ohio State. Even if a player is bolting a school, it’s rare athletes from Ohio State or Michigan transfer to the rival school after a healthy dose of disdain for the other is integrated into them the day they set foot on campus. But crazier things have happened in this whacky sport.

Just as they did for Alabama’s players, other schools will be watching the portal with vested interest now that Michigan athletes have had their transfer window reset, which could potentially weaken the Wolverines for 2024.

HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE PENDING NCAA INVESTIGATIONS?​

This is an even murkier question to answer than possible transfer portal attrition.

Michigan is currently under investigation by the NCAA for two separate incidents, the first being Cheeseburgers in Dead Periods and the other involving the newest Cameo celebrity Connor Stalions’ sign-stealing scandal. (No, seriously. He’s on Cameo now charging $75 for a personalized video. What a time we live in.)

The NCAA could easily label Michigan as a repeat offender if it chooses to and impose harsh sanctions. Had Harbaugh stayed, various reports emerged after his second suspension in 2023 that he could be facing a lengthy suspension for 2024 as well depending on what the investigation yielded.

Yet, college sports’ governing body has slowly been moving away from the model of harshly punishing institutions/players for the sins of past coaching administrations. NCAA president Charlie Baker probably didn’t do his infractions committee any favors by proclaiming Michigan won its national championship “fair and square.”

Though assuming Moore is hired, he served a one-game university self-imposed suspension himself during Michigan’s season opener for the impermissible contact allegations during the COVID-19 dead period and has been employed at the school for the entire duration of the Wolverines’ sign-stealing operation.

Will the NCAA give Michigan what essentially equates to a slap on the wrist with Harbaugh gone, or will it drop the hammer? It’ll be fascinating to watch unfold.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
www.elevenwarriors.com

How Jim Harbaugh's Departure from Michigan Could Impact the Wolverines, Ohio State and the Rest of College Football

Jim Harbaugh has officially left Michigan for the NFL after nine seasons, and we examine the ripple effects that could have on the Wolverines and Ohio State.
www.elevenwarriors.com www.elevenwarriors.com

HOW JIM HARBAUGH'S DEPARTURE FROM MICHIGAN COULD IMPACT THE WOLVERINES, OHIO STATE AND THE REST OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL​

WHAT’S THE TRANSFER PORTAL CARNAGE FROM MICHIGAN’S ROSTER?​

That’s the million-dollar question.

With the Michigan job changing hands, Wolverines players will now have a 30-day window to enter the transfer portal. For context on the utter chaos that can bring to a program, following Saban’s retirement, 11 Crimson Tide players opted to transfer (that’s not including the ones already in the portal before the announcement).

Maybe a mass exodus won't follow in Ann Arbor. Moore's presumed hire should help bring some continuity to the program. The academic calendar is also already working against potential transfers enrolling at another institution for the spring semester, with many institutions having already reached their deadline to drop classes. However, that probably won't stop them from trying to find workarounds if necessary.

At least some attrition is probably unavoidable, though, even if it waits until the spring portal window begins in April. As we mentioned earlier, a good chunk of the premier talent on Michigan’s 2023 squad has either run out of eligibility or declared for the NFL Draft. But this is still a talented roster with plenty of players that would be desirable to other Power Four programs.

Will Johnson, Kenneth Grant, Donovan Edwards, Colston Loveland, Mason Graham and Rod Moore are just a handful of the names that would receive significant interest elsewhere should they opt to transfer.

It’s hard to imagine any of those guys transferring coming off a national championship. It's even harder to envision any Wolverine player potentially ending up at Ohio State. Even if a player is bolting a school, it’s rare athletes from Ohio State or Michigan transfer to the rival school after a healthy dose of disdain for the other is integrated into them the day they set foot on campus. But crazier things have happened in this whacky sport.

Just as they did for Alabama’s players, other schools will be watching the portal with vested interest now that Michigan athletes have had their transfer window reset, which could potentially weaken the Wolverines for 2024.

HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE PENDING NCAA INVESTIGATIONS?​

This is an even murkier question to answer than possible transfer portal attrition.

Michigan is currently under investigation by the NCAA for two separate incidents, the first being Cheeseburgers in Dead Periods and the other involving the newest Cameo celebrity Connor Stalions’ sign-stealing scandal. (No, seriously. He’s on Cameo now charging $75 for a personalized video. What a time we live in.)

The NCAA could easily label Michigan as a repeat offender if it chooses to and impose harsh sanctions. Had Harbaugh stayed, various reports emerged after his second suspension in 2023 that he could be facing a lengthy suspension for 2024 as well depending on what the investigation yielded.

Yet, college sports’ governing body has slowly been moving away from the model of harshly punishing institutions/players for the sins of past coaching administrations. NCAA president Charlie Baker probably didn’t do his infractions committee any favors by proclaiming Michigan won its national championship “fair and square.”

Though assuming Moore is hired, he served a one-game university self-imposed suspension himself during Michigan’s season opener for the impermissible contact allegations during the COVID-19 dead period and has been employed at the school for the entire duration of the Wolverines’ sign-stealing operation.

Will the NCAA give Michigan what essentially equates to a slap on the wrist with Harbaugh gone, or will it drop the hammer? It’ll be fascinating to watch unfold.
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I don't expect their remaining major players to transfer, but I do suspect they'll take a decent depth hit when it comes to the portal. The effects might now show in year 1 but it could hurt them come year 2+
 
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BuckBackHome said:
I keep thinking 24 won't be as bad as we hope for them. However, assuming some penalties come their way via either scholarship reductions and/or postseason participation will have a longer term impact.
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As long as they don't lose too much in the transfer portal, their defense should be adequate; however, any success that the team may or may not have in 2024 will depend primarily on how their new QB1 plays.
 
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BuckBackHome said:
I keep thinking 24 won't be as bad as we hope for them. However, assuming some penalties come their way via either scholarship reductions and/or postseason participation will have a longer term impact.
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They were likely to take a bit of a step back even if Harbaugh stayed. They lost so much and there's just way more holes than they've had recently.

It's not going to be a total dumpster fire. They'll lose 3-4 games though. There's still enough in the tank defensively to win them some games and probably keep them from getting upset by their bum opponents. The offense is going to keep them from much success against the better teams though.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
One thing that they will cling to if the ncaa hits before the season and they have a post-season ban is that they will tell themselves they're still elite but the corrupt ncaa was out to get them and thus the players had nothing to play for.
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May it be for the next century. They’ve got their new 1900-1904 (or whatever) run now.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
Is big brother gifting them another DC this off-season?
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This is a overlooked thing here.

Those gifts from the NFL are over, the Harbaugh's could care less about Michigan now that they are no longer there.

Moore is going to be hard pressed at this point to get any higher level reinforcements as coordinators/position coaches.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
This is a overlooked thing here.

Those gifts from the NFL are over, the Harbaugh's could care less about Michigan now that they are no longer there.

Moore is going to be hard pressed at this point to get any higher level reinforcements as coordinators/position coaches.
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I think people are also overlooking how hard it will be to replace JJ McCarthy. As much as he wasn’t required to do in that system, he was light years better at it than anyone else Harbaugh managed to recruit or bring in over a decade.

Is Moore a QB whisperer? Harbaugh was* and he didn’t do shit at the position until McCarthy.

*According to DFBIA
 
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Buckeye86 said:
I think people are also overlooking how hard it will be to replace JJ McCarthy. As much as he wasn’t required to do in that system, he was light years better at it than anyone else Harbaugh managed to recruit or bring in over a decade.

Is Moore a QB whisperer? Harbaugh was* and he didn’t do shit at the position until McCarthy.

*According to DFBIA
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Oh I totally agree, McCarthy was no world beater but he did everything they needed him to do right and didn't make stupid mistakes.

Now they are potentially rolling into 2024 with a guy who completed 48% of his passes his SR year of HS. I don't care how fast you are, if you can't present even somewhat of a throwing threat, you are going to be a disaster as a major college QB in this day.

The OL is a way bigger concern than DFBIA wants to admit too. They aren't getting the transfer reinforcements this year that they got the last 2 years to shore up the holes guys leaving left. They are pretty much going to have to actually rely on guys they actually recruited who are so great that they kept getting transfer portal recruited over the last 2 seasons.

Also if Moore truly is a elite Oline coach, and the Oline didn't just take that next step because they knew exactly what the defense was doing. Losing him as the Oline coach should hurt.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
As long as they don't lose too much in the transfer portal, their defense should be adequate; however, any success that the team may or may not have in 2024 will depend primarily on how their new QB1 plays.
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They're replacing all 5 starters on the OL. That will be just as big a factor in their success. 3 straight years they've had veteran OLs that were amongst the best in the country that paved the way for their running game and kept the qb clean. Their COVID minions are moving on. That could be a dumpster fire.
 
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