2024 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

[ORD_Buckeye]

I think this is ultimately transitional. It goes to 16 teams (no auto-bids). First two rounds on campus.

Or we ditch the pikeys. Take the best of them and go with 2x24. B1G and SEC have multi-round conference playoffs leading to something like a Final Four.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I think this is ultimately transitional. It goes to 16 teams (no auto-bids). First two rounds on campus.

Or we ditch the pikeys. Take the best of them and go with 2x24. B1G and SEC have multi-round conference playoffs leading to something like a Final Four.

I think the second scenario is where it’s headed eventually. If you want a playoff then you need your AFL/NFL merger, divisions and a round robin schedule. No more SEC losses are wins bullshit.

 

[CincyInterloper]

Almost like we fucking told you so.

College Football Playoff's credibility taking a hit as race is littered with mediocre contenders down stretch

Maybe ballooning the field to 12 teams went a little overboard ... at least for this season

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“Look, we can only be so gullible on this SEC schedule strength narrative. Sooner or later you have to win games.”

“The success of two teams with 1-5 conference records -- Auburn and Oklahoma -- should stifle any talk about the incredible depth of the Strength Everywhere Conference.”

Preach on brother Dodd. Alabama’s three touchdown loss to conference cellar dweller Oklahoma should be disqualifying.

 

[Gizmo]

“Look, we can only be so gullible on this SEC schedule strength narrative. Sooner or later you have to win games.”

“The success of two teams with 1-5 conference records -- Auburn and Oklahoma -- should stifle any talk about the incredible depth of the Strength Everywhere Conference.”

Preach on brother Dodd. Alabama’s three touchdown loss to conference cellar dweller Oklahoma should be disqualifying.

I feel like that's doing the opposite:

"See, even our worst conference team is good enough to beat our best."

 

[Zurp]

I think the second scenario is where it’s headed eventually. If you want a playoff then you need your AFL/NFL merger, divisions and a round robin schedule. No more SEC losses are wins bullshit.

If you do that, what's the point of non-conference games? Or do we not have non-conference games, anymore?

 

[buckeyeintn]

“Look, we can only be so gullible on this SEC schedule strength narrative. Sooner or later you have to win games.”

“The success of two teams with 1-5 conference records -- Auburn and Oklahoma -- should stifle any talk about the incredible depth of the Strength Everywhere Conference.”

Preach on brother Dodd. Alabama’s three touchdown loss to conference cellar dweller Oklahoma should be disqualifying.

As if the loss to Vanderbilt (currently 6-5 with wins over Alcorn State and Ball State and a loss to Georgia State ) shouldn't have been disqualifying by itself.

 

[buckeyemania11]

“Look, we can only be so gullible on this SEC schedule strength narrative. Sooner or later you have to win games.”

“The success of two teams with 1-5 conference records -- Auburn and Oklahoma -- should stifle any talk about the incredible depth of the Strength Everywhere Conference.”

Preach on brother Dodd. Alabama’s three touchdown loss to conference cellar dweller Oklahoma should be disqualifying.

Yea, The problem the SEC jerkoffs ran into this year was teams started losing to the crappy unranked teams in the SEC at a much higher clip than usual. You can't scream "BUT SOS!" when Bama Ole Miss and A&M are losing to Kentucky, Vandy, Oklahoma & Florida. Tennessee is right on the edge, they lost to Arkansas but that 2nd loss was to UGA saving them from a similar fate.

The funny one is Clemson, people want to talk all kinds of shit about Indiana and Penn State "not playing anyone" but Clemson is on the same path or worse than both of them with that added HOME loss by 2 scores to fucking Louisville, they seem to get a free pass for it though

 

[buckeyemania11]

Total chaos is actually not that far fetched

You could have Tennessee lose to Vandy and then Texas beat A&M then beat UGA in the SEC title game. Then you have just ONE SEC team with <3 losses.

Could the ACC get fucking 3 teams at that point? With SMU Miami & Clemson.

1 3 loss SEC would still have to get in more than likely in that scenario, it would be hilarious watching the fight over which one it should be.

 

[BuckeyeSoldier]

Total chaos is actually not that far fetched

You could have Tennessee lose to Vandy and then Texas beat A&M then beat UGA in the SEC title game. Then you have just ONE SEC team with <3 losses.

Could the ACC get fucking 3 teams at that point? With SMU Miami & Clemson.

1 3 loss SEC would still have to get in more than likely in that scenario, it would be hilarious watching the fight over which one it should be.

Dont forget Georgia tech could still take out UGA too

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Ryan Day has obviously made a concerted effort all year to limit the number of plays in each game. He has addressed the issue directly, talking about how the 16 games the Buckeyes expect to play is effectively an "NFL schedule" and the season needs to be managed as such. He has taken the steps necessary to ensure that his team is ready for the long march ahead.

Some here might argue that, since 8 of the 11 games so far have been decided by more than 3 scores, that he could have increased the pace of play, beaten teams worse and played backups more, thus still limiting the number of hits on the starters. Fair enough, but Ryan was up front about the values that he managed the team by, so let's judge him on those expressly stated values. Here is a table of all of FBS and their total plays per game in 2024.



Judged by his own standards, I'd say "mission accomplished".

Just one observation... Ohio State has played 1338 total plays on offense and defense this year. Tennessee has played 200 more (1538).

Between that and having played backups in the 4th quarter of more than half of their games, I would like where this team was at if the offensive line looked less like a civil war battlefield.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Dont forget Georgia tech could still take out UGA too

Ga Tech beating UGA and A&M beating Texas would be hilarious, 2 3 loss teams in the SEC title game at that point

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Fuck these people! The question was 100 points against TCUN or a Natty.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Fuck these people! The question was 100 points against TCUN or a Natty.

That empty skull thinks a comparison to how Browns fans feel about their "rivalries" is something that "proves" that he's right?

Even if you accept that he knows the minds of all Browns fans (which is idiotic enough), this is still an absolutely fatuous argument that shows only that this guy was raised by a single mother who never heard of the Heisman trophy. No Ohio State fan with any understanding of what it really means to be a Buckeye would accept a loss to the cheaters for a NC. That is not who we are.

 

[Onebuckfan]

Ryan Day has obviously made a concerted effort all year to limit the number of plays in each game. He has addressed the issue directly, talking about how the 16 games the Buckeyes expect to play is effectively an "NFL schedule" and the season needs to be managed as such. He has taken the steps necessary to ensure that his team is ready for the long march ahead.

Some here might argue that, since 8 of the 11 games so far have been decided by more than 3 scores, that he could have increased the pace of play, beaten teams worse and played backups more, thus still limiting the number of hits on the starters. Fair enough, but Ryan was up front about the values that he managed the team by, so let's judge him on those expressly stated values. Here is a table of all of FBS and their total plays per game in 2024.

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Judged by his own standards, I'd say "mission accomplished".

Just one observation... Ohio State has played 1338 total plays on offense and defense this year. Tennessee has played 200 more (1538).

Between that and having played backups in the 4th quarter of more than half of their games, I would like where this team was at if the offensive line looked less like a civil war battlefield.

tOSU is using the huddle. I think they started using this when the OL was making mental errors and false starts. The huddle allows the OL to focus. No sacks less penalties it’s working . I thought we needed the opposite but I was wrong. Value each play don’t worry about how many plays. Is this way Kelly or Day don’t care it’s effective.

 

[cincibuck]

If you do that, what's the point of non-conference games? Or do we not have non-conference games, anymore?

I remember when TV meant black and white pictures on a "massive" 13 inch screen and all NCAA teams were allowed one appearance on The Game of the Week per year. In that situation, I could see how smaller programs could make enough money to keep a football program going despite the fact that they were never on TV.

During that time, OSU scheduled ooc games with the likes of Penn State, SMU, Texas A&M, Oregon, USC, and Pitt (I guess John Cooper gets the blame for the end of that series, but at least he didn't blow seven Pitt players).

That era began to unravel in the late fifties and early sixties when the bigger conferences pushed for two TV games a year. The smaller schools really screamed against the move and I could understand why. They knew it wasn't going to stop at two games per year. (In fact, in 1961, WBNS recorded every Ohio State game and played the video after the 11 o'clock news). The small conferences conceded but I suspect that part of the agreement included a promise from the wealthy football schools to put them on their ooc schedules.

Move to the seventies and word began to get out that many schools were taking student tuition monies and placing it in the athletic budgets.

At this point, I don't know if Tuesday/Wednesday night TV money along with an occasional invite to play the big boys is enough to keep those MAC type programs alive. I doubt it. As the emphasis on making the playoffs becomes more important than winning the conference, I see pressure mounting on the big boys to play tougher schedules. I don't think it's too big a stretch to forecast the SEC and Big Ten shrinking to fewer teams as the emphasis (and the TV and NIL money) focuses more and more on a national playoff.