2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[knuckifyoubuck]

I could not find the mortgage recorded only the note but I bet I can find it. I will report back during normal business hours LOL

Here it is (attached below as a PDF), if you want high quality you have to pay for it here https://ssclerk.ewashtenaw.org/web/ -> Prove your not a robot - Advanced Document Search -> I put in dates of March 1 2022 and March 30 2022 and enter Stalions into the parties field and his name pops up as an auto-complete. Run search. Mortgage is a VA mortgage, no rehab rider (what you normally see when the borrowed amount exceeds the sales price), no co-borrower Stalions an unmarried man from Lake Orion is listed as the borrower.

Why does this matter?

Because that is who qualified for the monthly payment.

If your "rich parents" are helping you qualify, they are co-borrowers. If ODea was helping qualify, he would be listed. If the LLC was buying the property, the mortgage would be in the LLC name and not Conors. But like I said above, the LLC looks to be registered after the close date and they would need more than a fresh LLC and funds to qualify. Generally you're showing 2 years of tax returns, whether they are for you or the LLC.

If Conor was trying something like that, it wouldn't be a VA mortgage - it would be a subprime shitbox loan at 8% (last year, probably 10% this year fuuuucckkk) they do allow "stated income" or "bank account" loans still which would be more along the lines of making shit up to qualify but you need money down to mitigate the risk to the lender and Conor did NOT do one of these loans.
To me it's either mortgage fraud or there is documented knowledge of Conor making more than 55K.

Can you FOIA a tax return lmao? That would dispel this notion right away.

We need a MSU alum in the IRS to leak this out LOL

 

[gmen6981]

We don't know how he's paying that mortgage.
It's nothing that's on the books as of yet.
Per HOA, the vacuums showed up within weeks of buying the home. How do you know inflated paperwork of this LLC wasn't part of the VA approval?

Corum can get money, but what are his NIL deals? Why does the car have the markings for the LLC in question, and bragging about starting an LLC at the time we know it was started... if he wasn't part of the business?
So he lied. Why is he lying?

The more this goes, the shadier it gets.
Im not claiming to know the answers -- im claiming they need to start providing answers or suspicion is just going to get worse.

Michigan could have suspended their guys and most of this would be getting swept under the carpet.
But now people are digging.

As much fun as we are having, I think Corum got scammed on this one and gets a pass He DOES have an LLC named BC2 that he started in 2021 (a year before the Stalions one was created) with his dad and is registered in his home state of Virginia. The branding on the car and the Insta post are referencing that.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

Sorry to post so much on this, but for the purposes of clarity:

A. The lender (loan officer, a manager on the backside, someone in that chain of command) lied about how much Conor makes in order to qualify him.
B. Conor showed more than $55K annually on tax returns and UM's original diversion of "hes low level at $55K year" is a lie.

If A is true: how many Michigan Men got the hook up/mortgage fraud? Players? Pre-NIL? Are they projecting with their diversion LMAO
If B is true: did Conor lie and forge IRS docs to qualify, or is someone paying him above board taxable income for his services?

 

[kujirakira]

Paying for it doesn't really matter from my vantage point, you can pay your mortgage however you would like... how did he qualify for it to begin with? It looks to me he was renting it before he bought it, who knows what the deal was but that address was up for rent at like $2800 when the address first links to Conor. I assume ODea was his roommate helping pay that. Then, in March 2022 he closes on it and gets a mortgage with no co-borrowers on the note (the promise to pay the mortgage). I could not find the mortgage recorded only the note but I bet I can find it. I will report back during normal business hours LOL


Because the LLC was filed after the house was bought from the screenshots posted.


I assume you're not allowed to enter into business with staff. I'm guessing but it seems like an obvious rule that would be in place, but maybe there is no rule? Seems like a coach could use his LLC or trust or whatever connections to pay for players and I just assume that is all outlawed.

You know what they say about assumptions but allowing coaches and players to enter businesses together seems like a competitive advantage the NCAA would nix.


Couldn't agree more

It's 2 different issues, but as most things with money probably solved by the same solution.
It is an issue how he paid for a mortgage he cant afford, just as it's an issue how he qualified for mortgage he can't afford.
Due to the nature of LLC being pass-through funds, im not sure it would get reported separately on a loan. The LLC profits are his income.

IIRC he bought the house Mar 22. The LLC was opened Mar 22. Corum's insta post was Apr 22.
It's all within 1 month.
But im sure it's all totally unrelated. Just a big coincidence.




One thing i know for sure, there's going to be a lot more shady stuff coming out and nothing is off the table.
Gambling is very much in play.

 

[ScriptOhio]

 

[kujirakira]

As much fun as we are having, I think Corum got scammed on this one and gets a pass He DOES have an LLC named BC2 that he started in 2021 (a year before the Stalions one was created) with his dad and is registered in his home state of Virginia. The branding on the car and the Insta post are referencing that.

So then did Stalions commit fraud?
Why would you add a player to your LLC?
Or is Corum in business and using the VA one as an out -- is this the same LLC that went dark in 2022, and was reinstated the week Stalions allegations came out?
Because if so, even more shady.

 

[kujirakira]

So researching the benefits of Wyoming LLCs ... as opposed to the usual Delaware and Montana...

1. Wyoming has no tax.
2. South Dakota has no tax, but online betting is a grey area
3. Wyoming was one of the first states to legalize online betting, in 2021. Other states took until late 22, early 23.

Not saying it's proof of anything. Just more food for thought.

I find it highly unlikely this guy with no money to his name and assets he cant afford... wasn't facilitating match fixing and not dipping.
This is exactly what investigators look for on an SF86.
But that's just like my opinion.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

As much fun as we are having, I think Corum got scammed on this one and gets a pass He DOES have an LLC named BC2 that he started in 2021 (a year before the Stalions one was created) with his dad and is registered in his home state of Virginia. The branding on the car and the Insta post are referencing that.

I had read the Virgina LLC went inactive just before the Wyoming LLC went active. Not sure, I will try to verify myself as I don't believe anything I read.

It's 2 different issues, but as most things with money probably solved by the same solution.
It is an issue how he paid for a mortgage he cant afford, just as it's an issue how he qualified for mortgage he can't afford.

You can easily justify paying a mortgage with a roommate (his buddy Odea) or help of parents.

You cannot easily justify qualifying for a VA mortgage on $55K.

Everyone on twitter last night "how can he payyy for this" it does not matter so long as he pays the bank does not care. How you get approved, on the other hand, they very much do care... as do the federal regulators who dont care about UM foozball.

Due to the nature of LLC being pass-through funds, im not sure it would get reported separately on a loan. The LLC profits are his income.

That is not how it works at all my brother. Call a lender and confirm for yourself if you won't take my word for it.

IIRC he bought the house Mar 22. The LLC was opened Mar 22. Corum's insta post was Apr 22.
It's all within 1 month.
But im sure it's all totally unrelated. Just a big coincidence.

The mortgage I posted above, for any and all to read and confirm, says March 3rd, 2022 as the close date. You can't qualify income with an LLC that doesn't even exist, you have to let things season before just walking into the bank and borrowing $502K on a VA loan from your local bank. The LLC will also have tax returns if it was being used... as posted last week this is not a profit-and-loss type loan... you need IRS docs to qualify.

It's no coincidence. We agree. But there are nuances and details that the masses online are missing because they don't deal with this stuff (mortgages) every single day.

One thing i know for sure, there's going to be a lot more shady stuff coming out and nothing is off the table.
Gambling is very much in play.

Gambling has been in play from the jump but again, you're not winning $1,000,000 in gambling and then qualifying for a 30-year VA mortgage. They aren't related to qualifying for the house. I don't think he needs to gamble to pay his monthly payment when he is the darling of UM football staff.

 

[BuckeyesGunn]

LOL… keep digging boys.

Rookie question here and it sounds stupid to ask. Can anything other that people bet? Meaning can you bet through an LLC?

Btw, Corum has another LLC in Virginia from 2021. It eventually went inactive in 2022 (when the Wyoming LLC started btw) and was later activated on 10/16/2023. Which is the week the allegations came out.

Fun stuff

Of course I could use my business account bank card and place bets, but then my accountant would have questions as to the spending and it would definitely mess things up.

So I'm guessing if he was using the business account to place bets that way, it shows it was the sole reason for the LLC. There would be plenty of evidence to prove it too.

 

[BuckeyesGunn]

Here it is (attached below as a PDF), if you want high quality you have to pay for it here https://ssclerk.ewashtenaw.org/web/ -> Prove your not a robot - Advanced Document Search -> I put in dates of March 1 2022 and March 30 2022 and enter Stalions into the parties field and his name pops up as an auto-complete. Run search. Mortgage is a VA mortgage, no rehab rider (what you normally see when the borrowed amount exceeds the sales price), no co-borrower Stalions an unmarried man from Lake Orion is listed as the borrower.

Why does this matter?

Because that is who qualified for the monthly payment.

If your "rich parents" are helping you qualify, they are co-borrowers. If ODea was helping qualify, he would be listed. If the LLC was buying the property, the mortgage would be in the LLC name and not Conors. But like I said above, the LLC looks to be registered after the close date and they would need more than a fresh LLC and funds to qualify. Generally you're showing 2 years of tax returns, whether they are for you or the LLC.

If Conor was trying something like that, it wouldn't be a VA mortgage - it would be a subprime shitbox loan at 8% (last year, probably 10% this year fuuuucckkk) they do allow "stated income" or "bank account" loans still which would be more along the lines of making shit up to qualify but you need money down to mitigate the risk to the lender and Conor did NOT do one of these loans.
To me it's either mortgage fraud or there is documented knowledge of Conor making more than 55K.

Can you FOIA a tax return lmao? That would dispel this notion right away.
.
We need a MSU alum in the IRS to leak this out LOL

If there is a Real Estate agent on here they can search flexmls and it would show who the mortgage is with if it is reportable in that state. If conman's name is on there with an "et al" then others are on the mortgage. If not, the boy got more $$$ from....somewhere...

Or he could have paid cash.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

If there is a Real Estate agent on here they can search flexmls and it would show who the mortgage is with if it is reportable in that state. If conman's name is on there with an "et al" then others are on the mortgage. If not, the boy got more $$$ from....somewhere...

Or he could have paid cash.

The mortgage itself is posted above. It doesn't say et al, it's to Conor only. Unmarried man. No one else on there, thus my opinion there is mortgage fraud to qualify him or he is claiming more on taxes than 55k from employment.

 

[BuckeyesGunn]

The mortgage itself is posted above. It doesn't say et al, it's to Conor only. Unmarried man. No one else on there, thus my opinion there is mortgage fraud to qualify him or he is claiming more on taxes than 55k from employment.

Sorry, I didn't look, late night and doing coffee still.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

Sorry, I didn't look, late night and doing coffee still.

Brother there is no reason to say sorry, I'm posting walls of text at 4am thinking only of beating the fuck out of M*ch*g*n.

 

[BB73]

Gambling is the first thing I thought of yesterday when hearing of Corum’s name being on the LLC.

I didn’t post it because it was pure speculation, and we have no idea if it’s true at this point.

But even if it’s not true, Corum needs to have been squeaky clean over the past couple of years because he’s now going to get a major anal probe into his life over the next couple of weeks.

 

[BB73]

The mortgage itself is posted above. It doesn't say et al, it's to Conor only. Unmarried man. No one else on there, thus my opinion there is mortgage fraud to qualify him or he is claiming more on taxes than 55k from employment.

I think you’re providing good information; FYI, it would look more credible if there were 2 ‘N’s in Connor’s name when you post it.