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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Oh Michigan won't go "all in on defaming people" because they are honorable and don't do that! That's why they are holding back all their juicy dirt :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Importantly, the likes of Isiah Hole, Sam Webb and others know all this and much much more than me, but won't share as they don't want to lose sources or defame anyone - specifically if they get something wrong. They can only hint at it, or say "bombs coming soon". Unlike Thamel, they won't go all in on defamation - as you never know what you might get wrong. This is why folks like Hole and Webb have been so confident, along with why Santa is backing Harbaugh 100% on this.
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Buck I in Mich said:
This is why it would be appropriate and hilarious if the Big 10 suspended the coordinators and made Jimmah coach without them. DFBIA would endorse it because they worship the guy. And they would lose the big games because the 2 largest reasons for the SCUM resurgence were stolen signals and multi million dollar coordinators. Not Rain Man suddenly calling great plays and schemes.
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This has been my position from go. It’s the coordinators who are the cheats and running games. Hairball is kinda meh on his own.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Whatever you do, do not read the replies. Am I wrong, or is that just two pieces of paper with words on it? How do these pictures prove anything? Why is it redacted like a SECRET//NOFORN document?
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I'm convinced it's all bullshit anyways and just a pathetic PR spin attempt. A couple of pieces of fucking paper with some shit written on them coulda been scribbled up by anyone and claimed to be "EVIDENTS!"
 
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Fuck all this nonsense about Harbro being suspended for the game. Suspend the coordinators and their second in command. The. Let him coach the game.

Then put Marv in at DB and when swirly master throws the inevitable int (or 3) Marv will be there to pick it off and run it back for a pick six into their home end zone, then strike the Heisman
 
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Zurp said:
I think someone posted the Valenti show yesterday, where he said that Michigan State should black-ball CMU. Never play them again. CMU doesn't get the pay-day of playing MSU. I'm all in favor of all Big Ten teams black-balling CMU. If they want the big pay-day game, go talk to ACC teams and Notre Dame. Send the message to all MAC and other G5 teams: get caught helping other teams cheat, and you can say goodbye to a big part of revenue to your athletic departments.
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I think this is fine while the current staff is in place. This wasn’t a CMU as an organization thing. This was a between coaches thing. Get rid of the coaches (on both sides) and resume scheduling them.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
:lol: this was their "big save"

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:lol: this is the amount of information other teams obtained on Michigan from "sign stealing" over the course of three years, compared to the binder of information and laminated cheat sheet with pictures Stalions had

really highlights how recording the sidelines for an entire game the entire season is so much worse cheating than "regular" sign stealing, even if you collaborate with other teams on it (ie at no point did anyone record the other sideline the entire game and review it throughout the week), this looks like a collection of information coaches figured out on the sideline in real time and wrote down
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Whatever you do, do not read the replies. Am I wrong, or is that just two pieces of paper with words on it? How do these pictures prove anything? Why is it redacted like a SECRET//NOFORN document?
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It’s probably redacted because they are still using it. Lol
 
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Buckeye86 said:
:lol: this is the amount of information other teams obtained on Michigan from "sign stealing" over the course of three years, compared to the binder of information and laminated cheat sheet with pictures Stalions had

really highlights how recording the sidelines for an entire game the entire season is so much worse cheating than "regular" sign stealing, even if you collaborate with other teams on it (ie at no point did anyone record the other sideline the entire game and review it throughout the week), this looks like a collection of information coaches figured out on the sideline in real time and wrote down
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I have a scUMer who's a work associate, he gave me some long winded explanation about how sending a bunch of scouts to take video/pictures at games up close of the coaches on the sidelines is "no different" than sitting down watching games on video. :lol: The mental gymnastics are glorious.

They "didn't cheat!" but always feel the need to spin away how they did nothing wrong.
 
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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buckeyemania11 said:
You can argue the ethics of it if you want, but it's one of those maybe grey area things that is not technically against any rules.
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I think there are two very clear lines.

Coaches from other schools are not your employee, they are the employee of the school they work for. This is the biggest gray area in my opinion compared to the paid volunteers Stalions was using.

The REALLY clear delineation is that no one in this operation was recording the other sideline for an entire game and breaking down the film for weeks putting together a binder of information.

Three years and multiple teams sharing resulted in two pages of material. Side by side with even what can be seen in Stalions (and other coaches) hands on their sidelines and it’s obvious how much further they were illegally taking things.
 
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