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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Which was probably going to be their defense until confronted with this "mountain of evidence."
Right exactly.

What has been so damn frustrating these last few weeks has been this odd support from Michigan. It was really unprecedented support that I’d never seen.

Well, 24 hours later and it’s like “oh, wait wutttt?”

From what it seems all the way around (Michigan fans/Media and OSU media) there’s now a big difference in the tenure of what the leadership at Michigan knows.

I think they really thought this was 1 guy just doing this with his own money etc (even though that’s still against the rules). Once they found out the scope it’s become “well damn how can we not get killed for multiple years?”.

I’d imagine tonight Michigan is trying to find a way out. If they can’t find one they’re going to do something big tomorrow (fire Jim or cancel the year) and if they can they’ll do something stupid (suspend Jim for a game or two)
 
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Right exactly.

What has been so damn frustrating these last few weeks has been this odd support from Michigan. It was really unprecedented support that I’d never seen.

Well, 24 hours later and it’s like “oh, wait wutttt?”

From what it seems all the way around (Michigan fans/Media and OSU media) there’s now a big difference in the tenure of what the leadership at Michigan knows.

I think they really thought this was 1 guy just doing this with his own money etc (even though that’s still against the rules). Once they found out the scope it’s become “well damn how can we not get killed for multiple years?”.

I’d imagine tonight Michigan is trying to find a way out. If they can’t find one they’re going to do something big tomorrow (fire Jim or cancel the year) and if they can they’ll do something stupid (suspend Jim for a game or two)
Fire Jim and erase the past, or keep Jim and erase the future?
 
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To be fair to Klatt (am I THAT drunk?) he probably has hundreds of people he doesn’t know snap selfies with him in confetti situations

even tainted ones
Yeah probably… but he’s been (along with cowherd) over the top on Michigan getting the NCAA investigation playing out so that their season is saved.

Criticized the big ten universities for being upset and calling the emotional or angry mobs.

Like no Joel… it’s 13 v 1 right now. This is more or less unanimous man.
 
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Yeah probably… but he’s been (along with cowherd) over the top on Michigan getting the NCAA investigation playing out so that their season is saved.

Criticized the big ten universities for being upset and calling the emotional or angry mobs.

Like no Joel… it’s 13 v 1 right now. This is more or less unanimous man.
Yeah.... too much of an apologist when the stuff that a everyday schlub can plainly see from video evidence doesn't seem Kosher .

However, he has always said if Scum is proven to be guilty of this they should be punished. So, I think he respected due process, but in the end, expected serious ramifications to happen in the end.

The B1G meeting with Ono may/ will probably change his tune.
 
I believe it was @AKAK that pointed this out earlier, you should be prepared for a non-zero chance that Connor was indeed a rogue actor that simply didn’t know advanced scouting was against NCAA rules. We all want to presume Jim and Jay, Minter, Moore, Gattis, et al are all complicit, but we don’t KNOW that yet. That’s the smoking gun we’re waiting to find.

Obviously Stalions had someone bankrolling this, but it has to be proven tied back to UM Athletics.

This has been touched on some in past couple of pages, but I really don't think we need to KNOW that at all. Like was said by the tCun source, we are well into SHOULD HAVE KNOWN territory. It was an open secret amongst other coaching staffs across the conference that those fucks were doing something more than "being really really good" at deciphering signs. To say that the staff didn't know isn't going to fly. For Jimbo at least. And based on how hard they went to keep Jimbo "out of the loop", at least one other coach is going down with him (sounds like Jay based on tonight's whisperings).
 
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This has been touched on some in past couple of pages, but I really don't think we need to KNOW that at all. Like was said by the tCun source, we are well into SHOULD HAVE KNOWN territory. It was an open secret amongst other coaching staffs across the conference that those fucks were doing something more than "being really really good" at deciphering signs. To say that the staff didn't know isn't going to fly. For Jimbo at least. And based on how hard they went to keep Jimbo "out of the loop", at least one other coach is going down with him (sounds like Jay based on tonight's whisperings).
I do not disagree here, I am merely positing what UMs defense will be, which will be put the onus of proof on the NCAA while UM digs their heels in and does not cooperate.

We all have lived through this as Buckeye fans. The worst possible outcomes seem to arise from cooperating with the NCAA. It’s been proven time and time again, the NCAA does not have the power of subpoena. Deny. Deny. Deny.

Ohio State has lost two head coaches to FOIA requests in the past 14 years. Who at UM goes against the Kremlin party line?
 
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Taking this a bit sideways…

I believe tCun would have gotten away with this if they only spied on OSU. And guess what? That’s the only team they needed to cheat to beat.

I don't know about that. They're probably a 8-10 win team without the cheating.
They didn't scout BGSU (5-4), and .... it was interesting.
The difference between BGSU and MSU is probably not that big.
Cheating doesn't just get you wins, it beats the spread at record levels.
And even then, what firm says "oh, you want us to break the law? No problem"

The firm of Stallions and Signs Ltd, if we're to believe his press release.
"Those aren't little kids, they're just little people into BDSM"

- DFBIA probably

In the end, scUM and PSU find a way to see eye to eye.
My prior hope for funniest, and, based on all information released so far, most on-brand source of the spreadsheet leak was shared cloud document and Wild Stallyns forgot to revoke access to a former staff member or coach. But having a cloud document that was publically available would be even funnier.

This tracks though.
First off, can you imagine managing all this data by yourself?
Second, he needs random people to upload their footage.
Third, we know he also made some data available to other coaching staffs.

If you're not rigorous (and he clearly isn't given venmo etc), you're probably just sending links to open cloud drive(s).
And probably not doing a perfect job of circling back to lock things down.

Really i wish they would try to start trying to sue people here, that would just open themselves up for more investigation and for more dirt to come out. So go ahead scUM. Sue away!

Discovery is always a good time. The best.


Hahahahaha. The ending got me.
Stallions is far too obsessed with scUM football to turn on them. He will go quietly into hiding and say nothing now more than likely.

I dont see the Harbaughs as the type to take care of their fall guys. He'll be begging for cash shortly, and that's when it gets interesting.
Dan Dakich from the top rope.


2 hours... gd who has time for all these peoples podcasts, livestreams, etc.
Can't everything be covered in like 5 minutes?
I dont just mean Dakich -- this is all over youtube. Any time there's a big topic im interested in (Idaho4 debacle), people insist on making 2 hours of "content" a day saying so little for so long.
... Im 2 minutes in and he's rambling about 1950s movies or something i have no idea.
Can somebody provide the cliff notes, please?
My money was on a simple X for the signature.

Oh shit, Elon is in on it too.

i honestly think they’re a good team… but I saw them dismantle MSU without Connor too.

So I don’t know. I really don’t.

1. They already did all their homework for this season.
2. MSU had no time to respond.
3. Do we know they weren't using his binder that gameday?
4. MSU is in freefall with their own scandal.

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Straight up mob shit here.

"I've never heard of that guy"
- Godfather Harbaugh

"I was never instructed to do anything."
- Consigliere Stalions

... after all their talk about RICO this RICO that, it's Michigan acting like a B-movie organized crime syndicate.


I believe it was @AKAK that pointed this out earlier, you should be prepared for a non-zero chance that Connor was indeed a rogue actor that simply didn’t know advanced scouting was against NCAA rules. We all want to presume Jim and Jay, Minter, Moore, Gattis, et al are all complicit, but we don’t KNOW that yet. That’s the smoking gun we’re waiting to find.

Obviously Stalions had someone bankrolling this, but it has to be proven tied back to UM Athletics.

Nah, this begs a number of questions.

- Why was assistant recruiting coordinator on the sideline at all? Shouldn't he be in the stands facilitating visits etc.

- Why do OC, DC,and HC all implicitly trust the ramblings of a rogue "recruiting" guy predicting exactly what the other team is doing?

- He shows up with a full binder. Obviously not cracking signals mid game.

- Who funded him? His 50k salary isn't enough to buy all those tickets, let alone also pay his stooges to sit there and record.

And, ultimately, it doesn't even matter. Per NCAA bylaws, Harbaugh and Michigan are responsible for the actions of their employees.
"I didn't know" is the definition of "loss of institutional control".

.... and this is before we even get into the shenanigans with CMU, SCe, etc.

This guy was straight up fixing games.
There is no "oooopsie, we had no idea this was going on" defense.
We all have lived through this as Buckeye fans. The worst possible outcomes seem to arise from cooperating with the NCAA. It’s been proven time and time again, the NCAA does not have the power of subpoena. Deny. Deny. Deny.

This works when you're a private school, like Miami.
It doesn't work for public schools subject to FOIA. They don't have "subpoena", but FOIA is a great discovery tool.
 
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