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2022 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, Surrender Cobras, and Feckless Marmots

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You know, its Harbaugh's life, his career, his choice, but man it sure seems like he picked the worst possible time to flirt with the NFL the way he did.

Fresh off whooping OSU, winning the Big Ten, making the CFP, you've got a ton of recruiting momentum, and then you're threatening to walk out the door right after the season and interview for just about any NFL team that will take you. You fly to Minnesota and essentially tell Michigan's power brokers "If they offer me the job, I'm taking it." Which, fine, whatever. Your life, Harbaugh. But that completely took all the wind out of Michigan's recruiting sails, and all the negative recruiters could come out of the woodworks and neg this program to death. Which make no mistake, they are doing.

It's great that he's back, but its hard not to feel like Michigan had this golden opportunity to close the gap on the recruiting trail. To finally have something tangible to sell to the elite players out there, to cash in on real results and say "Hey, I know you're considering OSU and Georgia, but here's why you should consider us, too." And it was all squandered before it really even had a chance to begin.

Just feels like we're right back where we were (in terms of recruiting momentum) this time last year, like Michigan has to prove itself all over again after its greatest season in 25 years.

Now if Michigan goes and beats OSU, wins the Big Ten again, that can go away quickly. But the proverbial door FINALLY opened for them, and we just slammed it shut right on ourselves before we could get through.
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Harbaugh's bizarre decision—after saying "This feels like the beginning" immediately after the OSU game, for fuck's sake—is the most needlessly self-destructive thing I can recall any head coach doing to himself that doesn't involve hookers, motorcycles, female staffers, or drunken dinner episodes.

A complete and total unforced error. An epic self-own. Clocking yourself in the nuts and then shooting yourself in both feet for good measure.
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Absolutely, Don, 100%.

To say that -- and then try really hard to bolt for the NFL in a drawn-out way -- is such a gigantic epic fail that it's hard to emphasize it enough. THIS gives the negative recruiters the ability to say, "yeah, he said he's done with the NFL, but last year he said that stuff about the beginning......" A self-imposed destruction of credibility in the off-season.

Combine that with losing both coordinators, losing key pieces of recruiting staff, AND publicly stating that we will not be taking full advantage of NIL, and you've not only lost recruiting benefits from the best season in 25 years, but you've made your recruiting job orders of magnitude more difficult.

We still have the potential for a fantastic season, and maybe we'll be fine going forward, but the real question is: why make things so much harder than they could be?

As I've said before, you don't have to straight-up offer recruits money to sign. But, as a university, Michigan SHOULD be setting up / facilitating NIL deals-in-waiting for its players. If we as a school don't want to participate in "we'll give you $750K to come here", fine. But it's not immoral / illegal / whatever to say, "If you sign with us, we have a $750K NIL package for you". It's literally completely allowed, and Michigan as an institution scoffs at it.
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Given the way this is trending, I think it’s fair to question how Michigan handled this recruitment post Gattis. If you listened to prior 247 recruiting insider episodes Sam hinted that IF Harbaugh gets more involved in the recruitment, he could close it. It wasn’t a statement that he wasn’ involved, but Sam made it sound like he wasn’t as involved as prior recruitments (Will J, Edwards).
If they do end up losing him after only recruiting him at QB, I’d love to know from insiders if Harbaugh ever did get more involved. Seems strange the way Sam emphasized it over multiple episodes surrounding the Dante topic.
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When Sam "never say a bad word about the program" Webb of all people is raising alarm you know things are truly dire.
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Being gifted a competent (or better) DC in Macdonald by his brother was a huge part of their “success” last season. As hilarious as all of Harbaugh’s dumbassery is, I think they’re seriously underestimating how hard that loss is going to hurt them… along with all their best players who they haven’t been recruiting well enough to replace without a drop off.

The thing about recruiting mostly developmental prospects is that you have to luck into most of them working out at the same time, which typically happens every 3-5 years if you’re fortunate (see: Penn State).

They’re trying to go to the same well with another former Ravens staffer at DC in Minter, but the chances of lucking out two years in a row seem small. There is a reason Minter ended up at Vanderbilt and not Michigan last year when he also left the Ravens.

Then you’ve got the challenge of replacing your offensive coordinator as well, which is yet another opportunity to regress. And you still gotta think their QB situation will crash and burn at some point with a transfer as Harbaugh handles that situation with his typical incompetence at human interaction.

In summation, fuck them.
 
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https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/if-mic...ent-nil-landscape-warde-manuel-needs-be-fired

The in-fighting about NIL between the DFBIA is pretty hilarious

Someone of them refuse to let the holier than thou "EVERYONE CHEATS BUT US!!!" attitude go

While some are certain NIL will "implode" in a couple of years and scUM will be even better off because they didn't get involved (Lol!)

Others take the "nothing much to see here" approach because they will still get top 15-20 recruiting classes (because everyone knows being in the 15-20 range certainly has you constantly competing for titles)

This outlook is probably the most accurate

Jimmyisgod

June 27th, 2022 at 10:12 AM ^

It's interesting what's going on.

Now I think Harbaugh interviewing for the NFL and us losing both coordinators is affecting recruiting a lot. But I don't think we can really know the full story on NIL Isn't NIL supposed to be kind of out of the hands with the staff and AD? Aren't there rules around staffs and athletic departments not being able to direct NIL deals? Furthermore, if Michigan boosters want to start offering recruits multi million dollar NIL deals to go to Michigan, there's nothing Harbaugh or Warde Manuel can do to stop it right?

I think Harbaugh making public statements against NIL is hurting the perception out there, we may have a robust NIL program, but those statements are leading to some kids not even considering us.

And we're in on some really good recruits still, but the numbers of them aren't what we're used to. When you're in on 35 4 star kids, you can expect to land 7-12 of those type of guys, I don't see us in on as many as we usually are. I see less than 10 4 stars we are currently in the mix for for 2023, if we land half of those, our class would probably be top 25ish.
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Buckeye86 said:
Being gifted a competent (or better) DC in Macdonald by his brother was a huge part of their “success” last season. As hilarious as all of Harbaugh’s dumbassery is, I think they’re seriously underestimating how hard that loss is going to hurt them… along with all their best players who they haven’t been recruiting well enough to replace without a drop off.

The thing about recruiting mostly developmental prospects is that you have to luck into most of them working out at the same time, which typically happens every 3-5 years if you’re fortunate (see: Penn State).

They’re trying to go to the same well with another former Ravens staffer at DC in Minter, but the chances of lucking out two years in a row seem small. There is a reason Minter ended up at Vanderbilt and not Michigan last year when he also left the Ravens.

Then you’ve got the challenge of replacing your offensive coordinator as well, which is yet another opportunity to regress. And you still gotta think their QB situation will crash and burn at some point with a transfer as Harbaugh handles that situation with his typical incompetence at human interaction.

In summation, fuck them.
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While I agree there will be drop offs in about every department for them this year. Their schedule is VERY favorable to make up for that. If Harbaugh fails to win 9 games with the hand dealt this year it's not a good look.

Colorado State (3-9 in 2021)
Hawaii (6-7 in 2021)
Uconn (1-11 in 2021)
Maryland
@ Iowa
@ Indiana
Penn State
Michigan State
@ Rutgers
Nebraska
Illinois
@ Ohio State

4 road games and 2 of them are @ Rutgers and @ Indiana (likely Ws). Iowa still has zero offense, they will probably have a very good defense. That game will probably be close, but i'm not counting on them losing it.

Who knows how "good" Ped State and Sparty will come to be this year, gotta think they should at least split those 2

Unless the wheels completely come off of the wagon the schedule is there to give them plenty of false hope this season. They are likely at least 9-2 when they come into the shoe for The Game.
 
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Sounds like they're really getting that "bump" from their fluke playoff berth. :slappy:
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The thing that a lot of college football fans don’t seem to understand, especially ones who don’t follow recruiting closely, is the significant talent gap between the top schools and everyone else.

Michigan recruits a top ten class and thinks they’re a big dog, but I’d argue the #8 class is closer in talent to the #30 class than it is to #1 or #2.

Stack that difference year after year and you get Michigan getting the ever living hell beat out of them by Georgia… and what usually happens in The Game.

Even a top ten caliber team really has to luck out in many ways to go head-to-head with a top three caliber team - like home field advantage, in bad weather that negates the opponent’s biggest advantage and highlights its biggest weakness, while dealing with a historically bad defensive coordinator with only one week to prepare (as compared to extra weeks in the post season), that is also battling a team-wide stomach flu…

That number of factors lining up in your favor can happen from time to time in the regular season, but is next to impossible in a playoff scenario.

This is why I think the average fan vastly overestimates the amount of upsets and parity an expanded playoff will bring to college football.

But I digress; fuck Michigan.
 
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