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2022 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, Surrender Cobras, and Feckless Marmots

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Nati-Toledo Bucks said:
I hate how some posters are so damn scared of scum. 1 win in what 10 years..Jesus man. They are beatable. We got them at home aswell. Just play the game. They ducked us 2 years ago. It took a terrible defense last year to finally get a win. We got better players across the board. We have a better coaching staff. Fuck them
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It's going to take certain fans years to get over that loss. They talk about TTUN like they're an inevitability because OSU isn't 'TOUGH' anymore under Day. It's like '19 and '20 never happened. Well '20 never happened because they're gutless fucks, but you know what I mean.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
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Whatever they are, I don’t feel the need to praise them and will happily continue to degrade them in any way possible to the point of being unreasonable. Fuck them.
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Well yeah, that too. But a fair assessment is not nepraise
 
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cincibuck said:
But the point is that in a game that most of us assumed would be between two fairly evenly-matched teams, Michigan overwhelmed Penn State on both sides of the ball.
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Who are all of these people that assumed that it was perfectly even? I think you would find very few people who would say that about the PSU offense.
McCarthy got away with one ill-advised throw and got a first down out of it, gave up a pick-six on a batted ball, but otherwise played a solid game.
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He got away with two, and paid for it on the third. In 1.5 qtrs

All while having a running game that was destroying the opposition, and being in 3rd and short all day. They gave him an easy rollout pass and he still bounced it into 3 defenders.
Corum looks like Chop with a bit more breakaway speed. Their defense did things to Penn State
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That the NW defense did last week.
17 pts.
NW held them to 1.2 less per carry.
And turned them over 5 times (UM did that 0 times)

It was a dominant performance, certainly. And a very good unit (though like OSU, the pass D grade remains meaningless).

But it literally happened last week.
that I haven't seen a Buckeye defense do since the days of Tressell. That's a top 4 team. Fuck Clemson and ACC football.
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It's a great rushing O and D.
With a very talented, very inconsistent QB.
Inexplicably little WRs for a blue blood school.

Harbaugh has turned the leaders and best into Wisconsin with non WIsconsin level talent at QB (although Wisky doesn't usually have Purdue sized WRs).. And Wisconsin can be very tough to handle, but they're not equipped for the playoffs.
 
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Keep talking, boys. Certainly no downside to this much bravado

JJ said:
"How they were emotionally all game, I wouldn't be surprised if [it was] them starting it," Wolverines quarterback J.J. McCarthy said of the altercation. "We just finished it."
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"Like Coach [Jim] Harbaugh said in the locker room, 'It was a butt-kicking in every which way a butt could be kicked,'" McCarthy said. "Just being able to do it in the fashion that we did was just awesome to see. Obviously, the first half, we wish it went a little different way scoreboard-wise, but they only had one first down and we had 18. We'll take that any day of the week."
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MikeMorris said:
"We all told each other, 'They want to have those Twitter fingers, they want to talk on social media,' and then they didn't talk on the field," Morris said. "They wanted to talk at halftime because they got lucky."
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JJ said:
"I keep saying week-to-week that I need to use my legs more," McCarthy said. "When you go back to the 2019 season and [former LSU quarterback] Joe Burrow and everything he was able to do with that, and I'm faster than Joe Burrow, so I should be able to do it."
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Based on everything I've seen since Rich Rod told that douchebag to go start shit with Sanzenbacher, I'd be surprised if Michigan didn't start whatever happened in the tunnel. They're going off the Michigan playbook page by page. Win the September championship, talk excessive amounts of shit, start a fight, chirp some more. They are owed more than 100.
 
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jwinslow said:
Who are all of these people that assumed that it was perfectly even? I think you would find very few people who would say that about the PSU offense.
He got away with two, and paid for it on the third. In 1.5 qtrs

All while having a running game that was destroying the opposition, and being in 3rd and short all day. They gave him an easy rollout pass and he still bounced it into 3 defenders.
That the NW defense did last week.
17 pts.
NW held them to 1.2 less per carry.
And turned them over 5 times (UM did that 0 times)

It was a dominant performance, certainly. And a very good unit (though like OSU, the pass D grade remains meaningless).

But it literally happened last week.
It's a great rushing O and D.
With a very talented, very inconsistent QB.
Inexplicably little WRs for a blue blood school.

Harbaugh has turned the leaders and best into Wisconsin with non WIsconsin level talent at QB (although Wisky doesn't usually have Purdue sized WRs).. And Wisconsin can be very tough to handle, but they're not equipped for the playoffs.
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I said fairly evenly matched - you said perfectly even. Look at the chatter on here prior to the game. I’m not the only one who thought Penn State would give them a test, maybe even upset them.
 
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cincibuck said:
I said fairly evenly matched - you said perfectly even. Look at the chatter on here prior to the game. I’m not the only one who thought Penn State would give them a test, maybe even upset them.
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lots of things are a test and a chance for upset. Purdue quite often for OSU. that doesn't make them fairly evenly matched.

I thought it would be interesting. I didn't trust Clifford to be different in his fourteenth try at a game like this.
 
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cincibuck said:
I said fairly evenly matched - you said perfectly even. Look at the chatter on here prior to the game. I’m not the only one who thought Penn State would give them a test, maybe even upset them.
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I think it’s highly likely that Penn State’s coordinators are bad, or at least were bad today, and eliminated any chance Penn State had of keeping it close.

In that sense, today’s game was similar to The Game last year—close at half but a defense completely unable to stop the run in the second half resulted in a lopsided final.

I saw it mentioned that Penn State never loaded the box all day, which indicates to me bad or incompetent coaching.

Penn State’s offense is a little more unclear—who knows what the coaches are capable of because Clifford and possibly/probably the WR corps are just terrible and completely unable to consistently make plays.

That said, I didn’t see the UM edge rushers getting pressure for most of (if not the entire) game, with the pressure coming from blitzes—seemingly a significant down grade for UM from last season as has been pointed out ad nauseam on this forum. Despite a lack of consistent pressure, Clifford just sucks even in a clean pocket.

So, did people think Penn State had a chance? Sure.

That was tanked by a defensive coordinator who was putting his players in a position to lose by being incapable or unwilling to adjust (most glaringly by at least loading the box) to stop the run in the second half.

The problem was compounded by an offense that was just flat out terrible, largely due to a bad QB, who hung the defense out to dry by not even sustaining drives, much less scoring points.

Michigan played a good game against what was likely a highly flawed opponent. There is no reason to think they are anything different than their teams the past two decades who get steamrolled by the good teams on their schedule that lack glaring flaws.

Ohio State had a massive glaring flaw last season but Georgia beat the hell out of them. I see nothing to indicate the UM defense is even remotely close to being as good as last year, and their offense is Wisconsin on its best day—capable of grinding you to dust while also being highly vulnerable to being left in the dust if you can take it out if its comfort zone.
 
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jwinslow said:
It's a great rushing O and D.
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At best, I think we can say jury is out on the D.
After Maryland, any team with a pulse at QB will not have a problem putting up points.
Taulia is a typical loose cannon, but he and their backup are the only QBs scUM has played. In that situation, their D looked pedestrian against a pedestrian offense with an injured QB.
They need their DL to get home to bail out the DBs, but they don't have the studs on DL anymore.
Thankfully for everyone involved, they won't play a decent QB again until Thanksgiving. Which means they have no reason to improve, and will only become more overconfident in mediocrity.

I will give their rushing attack some credit.
 
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