I wish I could be in that meeting where Harbaugh tells everyone "Alright guys, we gotta make our best player go completely un noticed on the field and on the stat sheet, thats the plan"
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Hell of a recruiting pitch too... look kid, if you come here we will make sure to showcase your skills by scheming everything away from you. Trust us. We're football coaches.
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Them comparing Hutchinson to the Bosa’s is the most absurd crap they maybe have ever came up with outside of maybe Feagin > Pryor pitch.
Both Bosa’s in EACH INDIVIDUAL SEASON they played at Ohio State put up more sacks than Hutchinson has in his 2 full years + short season time at scUM. Hell Nick played 2 1/2 games one year and still came up with more
Both Bosa’s in EACH INDIVIDUAL SEASON they played at Ohio State put up more sacks than Hutchinson has in his 2 full years + short season time at scUM. Hell Nick played 2 1/2 games one year and still came up with more
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DFBIA's take on NIL is a lot of the predictable "everyone but us is obsessed with football and doesn't care about academics" approach
https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/nc...ess-rules-july-1-after-supreme-court-decision
https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/nc...ess-rules-july-1-after-supreme-court-decision
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Haskins is still in the NFL at least.
Harbaugh turned #1 QB Patterson into a undrafted CFL player.
Harbaugh turned #1 QB Patterson into a undrafted CFL player.
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Now hold the phone. He molded Andrew Luck from a pile of nothing into an elite NFL QB. You can't tell me that was all because Andrew Luck was just that good and pretty much made Harbaugh's coaching career for him, can you?
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The Harbrau/QB Whisperer title has always been a fallacy.
He gained that reputation from 3 QBs early on in his career. A deeper look shows that it wasn't so much him as a fortunate confluence of circumstances that allowed a fair amount of success.
Andrew Luck was first. Now, Jimmuh does deserve some credit for luring a generational QB talent to join him at Stanford before Stanford was ever established as any kind of legitimate football presence. But, he was a generational talent. I'd say he was so good he was virtually impossible to fuck up. And how much of his success was due to Harbrau and not David Shaw?
Next came Alex Smith. Smith was a former #1 overall pick, so he obviously had some ability. The first 6 years of his career ranged from awful to nondescript. Harbrau brought along Greg Roman to be his OC in SF. Over the next 1.5 seasons, Smith developed into a very capable game manager in an offense that leaned heavily on a strong running game and play action passes. Smith did very well in the role of game manager, but he wasn't a QB who was winning many games by himself. Looking over the totality of his career, he improved some more under Andy Reid in KC, but was never anything approaching an elite QB. He was a guy who wouldn't lose many games for you, but needed help to win. He got injured about midway through the 2012 season which led to...
Colin Kaepernick. Kaep was a guy who was an absolute beast at Nevada running the pistol offense. His blend of elite athleticism for the position and an absolute cannon for arm made him a bit of a unicorn in the NFL. When Smith went down, Roman implemented a hybrid pistol offense to cater to his new QBs skillset and mask his flaws...which were that he wasn't particularly accurate as a thrower and struggled badly going past one read. He ran roughshod over the league and put on an incredible performance on their way to the SuperBowl. In 2013, the league started to catch up to him and his dominance waned. By late 2013 and into the playoffs, he was more a liability as a passer than anything else. 2014 came and Harbrau and Roman made the brilliant decision to make him more of a pocket passer with less designed runs and improvising, which were his two strongest traits. He still couldn't read a defense and his numbers were thoroughly mediocre. That was the end for Harbrau and Roman. 2015 was a lost year in a dinosaur offense with lame duck coach Jim Tomsula and Kaep was ineffective. It's somewhat telling that the next season, 2016, Kaep had his best season as a passer under Chip Kelly and his new, young QB coach...one Ryan Day. He wasn't great by any stretch, but they took a totally broken QB and at least made him somewhat effective.
So, as anybody that actually bothers to analyze Harbrau as a coach can see, the "QB Whisperer" label is basically a bunch of crap. That's been exposed at tsun as after 6 years, he's had ONE capable QB...an experienced grad transfer from Iowa who basically was a game manager for them.
He gained that reputation from 3 QBs early on in his career. A deeper look shows that it wasn't so much him as a fortunate confluence of circumstances that allowed a fair amount of success.
Andrew Luck was first. Now, Jimmuh does deserve some credit for luring a generational QB talent to join him at Stanford before Stanford was ever established as any kind of legitimate football presence. But, he was a generational talent. I'd say he was so good he was virtually impossible to fuck up. And how much of his success was due to Harbrau and not David Shaw?
Next came Alex Smith. Smith was a former #1 overall pick, so he obviously had some ability. The first 6 years of his career ranged from awful to nondescript. Harbrau brought along Greg Roman to be his OC in SF. Over the next 1.5 seasons, Smith developed into a very capable game manager in an offense that leaned heavily on a strong running game and play action passes. Smith did very well in the role of game manager, but he wasn't a QB who was winning many games by himself. Looking over the totality of his career, he improved some more under Andy Reid in KC, but was never anything approaching an elite QB. He was a guy who wouldn't lose many games for you, but needed help to win. He got injured about midway through the 2012 season which led to...
Colin Kaepernick. Kaep was a guy who was an absolute beast at Nevada running the pistol offense. His blend of elite athleticism for the position and an absolute cannon for arm made him a bit of a unicorn in the NFL. When Smith went down, Roman implemented a hybrid pistol offense to cater to his new QBs skillset and mask his flaws...which were that he wasn't particularly accurate as a thrower and struggled badly going past one read. He ran roughshod over the league and put on an incredible performance on their way to the SuperBowl. In 2013, the league started to catch up to him and his dominance waned. By late 2013 and into the playoffs, he was more a liability as a passer than anything else. 2014 came and Harbrau and Roman made the brilliant decision to make him more of a pocket passer with less designed runs and improvising, which were his two strongest traits. He still couldn't read a defense and his numbers were thoroughly mediocre. That was the end for Harbrau and Roman. 2015 was a lost year in a dinosaur offense with lame duck coach Jim Tomsula and Kaep was ineffective. It's somewhat telling that the next season, 2016, Kaep had his best season as a passer under Chip Kelly and his new, young QB coach...one Ryan Day. He wasn't great by any stretch, but they took a totally broken QB and at least made him somewhat effective.
So, as anybody that actually bothers to analyze Harbrau as a coach can see, the "QB Whisperer" label is basically a bunch of crap. That's been exposed at tsun as after 6 years, he's had ONE capable QB...an experienced grad transfer from Iowa who basically was a game manager for them.
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What were the names of the QB’s the DFBIA said were better than Pryor and Fields (respectively)?
Point being, you aren’t dealing with the most analytical, deep thinkers the human race has ever produced up there. They’ll roll with “QB whisperer” til they die.
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Rich Rod was kind of a "QB Whisperer" himself. They really thought he could turn any "Dual Threat" into a Heisman contender who could lead a team to a national title.
That's how the Feagin > Pryor shit bred. "well Feagin has the SPREAD GURU RICH ROD!11!!"
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Feagin never attempted a pass in his career and only carried the ball 11 times. Hilariously, He did play against Ohio State in 2008.......3 Carries for 2 yards 
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