zincfinger
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In back-to-back games, 2017 OSU allowed 38 (win over Penn State) and 55.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Anybody know who the "College Football Nerds" are?
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AuTX Buckeye
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couple of southern guys who are fairly objective in their analysis of college football.
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OK, now I see that when I read the statement "2017 allowed 38 (win over Penn St) and 55 in back-to-back games" I initially thought that the "55 in back-to-back games" meant two games giving up 55 points.
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Gotcha. But this statement didn’t confuse you?
“The 2012 team allowed 38 and 49 in consecutive games”
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
BUT WHERE ARE THE LINEBACKERS? I saw a lot of folks worked up about the defensive line on Saturday, and my personal #take after a few rewatches is that even though the line was certainly not great, it probably wouldn't even make the top-20 problems from the game.
For the most part, Oregon just had a game plan that took the defensive line – particularly the pass rush – right out of the game. And even sometimes when it looked like the line did something especially wrong, that wasn't necessarily the case, either.
I give you The Case of the Missing Linebackers, by Matt Finkes.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...-doing-their-job-and-tbdbitl-is-doing-roaring
For the most part, Oregon just had a game plan that took the defensive line – particularly the pass rush – right out of the game. And even sometimes when it looked like the line did something especially wrong, that wasn't necessarily the case, either.
I give you The Case of the Missing Linebackers, by Matt Finkes.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...-doing-their-job-and-tbdbitl-is-doing-roaring
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I’ve seen posted elsewhere that Ohio State MUST have better defensive talent somewhere on the roster
This opinion utterly baffles me
In order to separate talent from coaching, we have to define talent as whatever the athlete brings to the table that isn’t coaching
Even by this vague definition, you could pick any competent (non-OSU) B1G defense of the last few years and easily determine that Ohio State 2021 inarguably has more talent.
In fact, go back through college football history and try to find ANY defense that was in the bottom 10% of FBS defenses, statistically, and had anywhere near the talent that this defense has. Based on that thought experiment, I submit that it is not hyperbole to say that this defense performs farther below their talent level than any in college football history. The only question at this point is if anyone was ever close.
Face it: with the number of athletes they’ve been playing on defense, it is obvious that they are playing anyone and everyone who has any chance of helping. The problem is painfully obvious NOT that they haven’t tried the right personnel yet. The problems do not change based on who’s out there. The problem is never that they are not fast enough or big enough or strong enough. The problem is that they’re not in position to make the plays. Whether that’s because the scheme is not suited to 2021 football (it isn’t imho) or because ALL of the players haven’t been taught and/or trained adequately (they obviously haven’t) it comes down to coaching.
This opinion utterly baffles me
In order to separate talent from coaching, we have to define talent as whatever the athlete brings to the table that isn’t coaching
Even by this vague definition, you could pick any competent (non-OSU) B1G defense of the last few years and easily determine that Ohio State 2021 inarguably has more talent.
In fact, go back through college football history and try to find ANY defense that was in the bottom 10% of FBS defenses, statistically, and had anywhere near the talent that this defense has. Based on that thought experiment, I submit that it is not hyperbole to say that this defense performs farther below their talent level than any in college football history. The only question at this point is if anyone was ever close.
Face it: with the number of athletes they’ve been playing on defense, it is obvious that they are playing anyone and everyone who has any chance of helping. The problem is painfully obvious NOT that they haven’t tried the right personnel yet. The problems do not change based on who’s out there. The problem is never that they are not fast enough or big enough or strong enough. The problem is that they’re not in position to make the plays. Whether that’s because the scheme is not suited to 2021 football (it isn’t imho) or because ALL of the players haven’t been taught and/or trained adequately (they obviously haven’t) it comes down to coaching.
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Damn. I was raising hell about this during the game. LB has to be fast in his read and scrape off the DE and have outside contain when they do that. Every time? Thats insane and way to easy to outscheme. Evidence Bucks are 1-1
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Onebuckfan
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Have a scheme that makes your players play fast. Maybe not a 3 way read or a two way read..play a one way read. Your scheme can be great and look great written on paper. Players have many abilities some process info differently. One wrong step..your beat even if your 4.4 .
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Thats how supreme athleticism gets beat. Supreme instincts and mental ability is what is needed at many positions. Like you said, 4.4 isnt 4.4 if it takes you a second to react. Then it's 5.4 and you aren't winning with that at this level
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