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Coombs impressed with Buckeyes' true freshmen corners | Also speaks about Barnes' promotion, Cam Brown, more
Ohio State defensive coordinator Kerry Coombs met with the media after Friday's practice and shared a lot of interesting details about the Buckeyes' cornerbacks and the defense as a whole. You can watch our 14-minute video of Coombs' question-and-answer session here:
Entire article: https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...ut-Barnes-promotion-Cam-Brown-more-168802404/
Ohio State defensive coordinator Kerry Coombs met with the media after Friday's practice and shared a lot of interesting details about the Buckeyes' cornerbacks and the defense as a whole. You can watch our 14-minute video of Coombs' question-and-answer session here:
Entire article: https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...ut-Barnes-promotion-Cam-Brown-more-168802404/
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Ohio State's 2020 defense might not have been historically bad, but their performance was certainly far below both our expectations and the level necessary to win a championship. While the depleted secondary deservedly gets a lot of the blame, the defensive line must also be held accountable.
We have been spoiled in recent years with three generational talents in less than a decade (Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, Chase Young), but several other defensive linemen had superb college careers while at Ohio State - Sam Hubbard, Johnathan Hankins, John Simon, Adolphus Washington, Tyquan Lewis, Michael Bennett, Dre'mont Jones, even Noah Spence.
In the chart below, I list all of the defensive linemen who played during the Meyer-Day Era (even if their careers began during the Tressel-Fickell Era). The chart contains the following stats: tackles; TFLs; sacks; QBHs; PBUs; turnovers; total defense. Players with 12 or more games played are listed in the main chart; players with less than 12 games played are in a separate chart below. Current players are listed in scarlet (Cade Stover is listed with the current DL even though he will play TE for the 2021 season).
In conventional scoring, a sack counts as a sack, a TFL, and a tackle. To prevent this duplication, I have defined a "tackle" to be a tackle that is not also a TFL and/or a sack; and a "TFL" to be a TFL that is not also a sack. So if a player in conventional scoring has 16 tackles, 6.5 TFLs, and 3.0 sacks, in my system he has 9.5 tackles, 3.5 TFLs, and 3.0 sacks.
The "total defense" stat is similar to total offense, and is the total of yards lost as the result of TFLs and sacks, plus yards gained as the result of fumble recoveries and interception returns; I have also given a 10-yard bonus for a TD scored off of a fumble or interception. So a player with 25 yards lost on TFLs + 15 yards lost on sacks + 12 yards gained on fumble returns + 33 yards gained on interception returns with a pick six would have a total defense score of 95.
Finally, the "DL score" was calculated by giving 1 point for each tackle and QBH; 2 points for each TFL and PBU; 3 points for each sack and turnover (with a turnover being defined as a forced fumble, a fumble recovery, an interception, or a blocked punt/kick); and .1 point for each yard of total defense.
NOTE: I have included a "hypothetical" Nick Bosa, who doesn't get hurt after 2.5 games and plays his entire season season. For Nick's senior year stats, I used his actual stats for 2.5 games, plus Chase Young's actual stats for his 12-game 2019 season.
We have been spoiled in recent years with three generational talents in less than a decade (Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, Chase Young), but several other defensive linemen had superb college careers while at Ohio State - Sam Hubbard, Johnathan Hankins, John Simon, Adolphus Washington, Tyquan Lewis, Michael Bennett, Dre'mont Jones, even Noah Spence.
In the chart below, I list all of the defensive linemen who played during the Meyer-Day Era (even if their careers began during the Tressel-Fickell Era). The chart contains the following stats: tackles; TFLs; sacks; QBHs; PBUs; turnovers; total defense. Players with 12 or more games played are listed in the main chart; players with less than 12 games played are in a separate chart below. Current players are listed in scarlet (Cade Stover is listed with the current DL even though he will play TE for the 2021 season).
In conventional scoring, a sack counts as a sack, a TFL, and a tackle. To prevent this duplication, I have defined a "tackle" to be a tackle that is not also a TFL and/or a sack; and a "TFL" to be a TFL that is not also a sack. So if a player in conventional scoring has 16 tackles, 6.5 TFLs, and 3.0 sacks, in my system he has 9.5 tackles, 3.5 TFLs, and 3.0 sacks.
The "total defense" stat is similar to total offense, and is the total of yards lost as the result of TFLs and sacks, plus yards gained as the result of fumble recoveries and interception returns; I have also given a 10-yard bonus for a TD scored off of a fumble or interception. So a player with 25 yards lost on TFLs + 15 yards lost on sacks + 12 yards gained on fumble returns + 33 yards gained on interception returns with a pick six would have a total defense score of 95.
Finally, the "DL score" was calculated by giving 1 point for each tackle and QBH; 2 points for each TFL and PBU; 3 points for each sack and turnover (with a turnover being defined as a forced fumble, a fumble recovery, an interception, or a blocked punt/kick); and .1 point for each yard of total defense.
NOTE: I have included a "hypothetical" Nick Bosa, who doesn't get hurt after 2.5 games and plays his entire season season. For Nick's senior year stats, I used his actual stats for 2.5 games, plus Chase Young's actual stats for his 12-game 2019 season.
| Player | Games | Tackles | Tackle_FL | QB_Sacks | QB_Hurry | Pass_BU | Turnover | Total_Def | DL_Score |
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| Joey Bosa | 41 | 99.5 | 24.5 | 26.0 | 24 | 6 | 8 | 289 | 315.4 |
| Nick Bosa (hypothetical) | 41 | 73.0 | 16.0 | 34.0 | 20 | 5 | 11 | 282 | 298.2 |
| John Simon | 49 | 111.0 | 22.5 | 20.5 | 3 | 10 | 5 | 225 | 278.0 |
| Chase Young | 36 | 58.5 | 10.0 | 30.5 | 16 | 8 | 10 | 239 | 255.9 |
| Adolphus Washington | 49 | 117.0 | 11.5 | 13.5 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 143 | 227.8 |
| Tyquan Lewis | 53 | 75.5 | 13.0 | 23.5 | 11 | 5 | 5 | 176 | 225.6 |
| Nathan Williams | 44 | 107.0 | 13.0 | 12.0 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 154 | 221.4 |
| Michael Bennett | 49 | 79.5 | 13.5 | 18.0 | 5 | 4 | 10 | 155 | 219.0 |
| Sam Hubbard | 40 | 86.5 | 12.5 | 17.0 | 10 | 4 | 6 | 158 | 214.3 |
| Dre'mont Jones | 39 | 93.0 | 12.5 | 9.5 | 8 | 4 | 6 | 143 | 194.8 |
| Johnathan Hankins | 38 | 121.5 | 11.5 | 5.0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 55 | 172.0 |
| Nick Bosa (actual) | 30 | 48.0 | 11.5 | 17.5 | 13 | 2 | 4 | 153 | 167.8 |
| Jalyn Holmes | 49 | 70.0 | 9.0 | 5.0 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 52 | 139.2 |
| Garrett Goebel | 51 | 77.0 | 7.0 | 2.0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 25 | 109.5 |
| Jonathon Cooper | 45 | 60.0 | 5.0 | 10.0 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 81 | 129.1 |
| Noah Spence | 24 | 48.5 | 6.5 | 9.0 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 103 | 114.8 |
| DaVon Hamilton | 53 | 45.0 | 14.0 | 7.0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 94 | 113.4 |
| Robert Landers | 52 | 41.5 | 21.0 | 2.5 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 69 | 107.9 |
| Jashon Cornell | 45 | 49.5 | 6.5 | 7.0 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 74 | 106.9 |
| Steve Miller | 35 | 35.5 | 8.5 | 5.0 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 102 | 81.7 |
| Tommy Togiai | 33 | 40.5 | 5.5 | 3.0 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 27 | 72.2 |
| Zach Harrison | 21 | 28.5 | 4.0 | 5.5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 32 | 64.2 |
| Tommy Schutt | 38 | 35.5 | 3.5 | 3.0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 23 | 61.8 |
| Haskell Garrett | 41 | 33.5 | 4.5 | 2.0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 29 | 59.4 |
| Tyreke Smith | 31 | 23.0 | 2.0 | 4.0 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 37 | 52.7 |
| Michael Hill | 37 | 30.5 | 3.5 | 2.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 23 | 47.8 |
| Jamal Marcus | 24 | 27.0 | 0.0 | 2.0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 10 | 41.0 |
| Joel Hale | 43 | 31.5 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 33.5 |
| Javonte Jean-Baptiste | 20 | 16.5 | 1.0 | 2.5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 21 | 32.1 |
| Antwuan Jackson | 24 | 20.5 | 3.5 | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 31.2 |
| Tyler Friday | 25 | 14.0 | 1.0 | 3.0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 20 | 31.0 |
| Tracy Sprinkle | 30 | 17.0 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 29.7 |
| Rashad Frazier | 12 | 9.5 | 1.5 | 2.0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 13 | 26.8 |
| Jerron Cage | 19 | 9.5 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 18.7 |
| Chris Carter | 26 | 11.0 | 0.0 | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 18.2 |
| Taron Vincent | 16 | 9.0 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 18.0 |
| J.T. Moore | 17 | 10.0 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 12.3 |
| Non-Qualifying Player | Games | Tackles | Tackle_FL | QB_Sacks | QB_Hurry | Pass_BU | Turnover | Total_Def | DL_Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase Farris | 7 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 1.5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 9.1 |
| Alex Williams | 5 | 8.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.0 |
| Cormontae Hamilton | 5 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 17 | 7.7 |
| Rashod Berry | 10 | 7.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.0 |
| Donovan Munger | 10 | 4.0 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 6.1 |
| Josh Alabi | 5 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 5.0 |
| Dylan Thompson | 2 | 2.5 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.5 |
| Cade Stover | 8 | 4.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 |
| Zaid Hamdan | 3 | 4.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 |
| Darrion Henry-Young | 2 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 3.4 |
| Noah Potter | 8 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.0 |
| Aaron Cox | 2 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.0 |
| John Holman | 1 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
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The current DL are bunched toward the bottom of the performance chart, which is to be expected because they have played less games. However, when each player's stats are averaged to a 40-game career, the current DL are still near the bottom in terms of performance.
Zach Harrison has clearly separated himself from the current pack, but even still he is only performing at the level of Jalyn Holmes or Jonathon Cooper, which is not really what you'd expect from a 5-star prospect and supposed generational talent. The rest of the group, including the highly-touted Tyreke Smith, are performing in the same range as Jamal Marcus, Tommy Schutt, and Michael Hill, guys who were pretty much back-ups during their forgettable careers.
I understand that raw stats don't tell the entire story (see Haskell Garrett, All American), but the DL really do need to step it up in 2021 in order for the defense to be capable of competing with teams like Oklahoma, Georgia, Clemson, or Alabama in the playoffs.
Zach Harrison has clearly separated himself from the current pack, but even still he is only performing at the level of Jalyn Holmes or Jonathon Cooper, which is not really what you'd expect from a 5-star prospect and supposed generational talent. The rest of the group, including the highly-touted Tyreke Smith, are performing in the same range as Jamal Marcus, Tommy Schutt, and Michael Hill, guys who were pretty much back-ups during their forgettable careers.
I understand that raw stats don't tell the entire story (see Haskell Garrett, All American), but the DL really do need to step it up in 2021 in order for the defense to be capable of competing with teams like Oklahoma, Georgia, Clemson, or Alabama in the playoffs.
| Player | Games | Tackles | Tackle_FL | QB_Sacks | QB_Hurry | Pass_BU | Turnover | Total_Def | DL_Score |
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| Joey Bosa | 40 | 97.1 | 23.9 | 25.4 | 23.4 | 5.9 | 7.8 | 282.0 | 307.9 |
| Nick Bosa (hypothetical) | 40 | 71.2 | 15.6 | 33.2 | 19.5 | 4.9 | 10.7 | 275.1 | 290.9 |
| Chase Young | 40 | 65.0 | 11.1 | 33.9 | 17.8 | 8.9 | 11.1 | 265.6 | 284.0 |
| John Simon | 40 | 90.6 | 18.4 | 16.7 | 2.4 | 8.2 | 4.1 | 183.7 | 226.8 |
| Nick Bosa (actual) | 40 | 64.0 | 15.3 | 23.3 | 17.3 | 2.7 | 5.3 | 204.0 | 223.5 |
| Sam Hubbard | 40 | 86.5 | 12.5 | 17.0 | 10.0 | 4.0 | 6.0 | 158.0 | 214.3 |
| Nathan Williams | 40 | 97.3 | 11.8 | 10.9 | 5.5 | 4.5 | 6.4 | 140.0 | 201.3 |
| Dre'mont Jones | 40 | 95.4 | 12.8 | 9.7 | 8.2 | 4.1 | 6.2 | 146.7 | 199.8 |
| Noah Spence | 40 | 80.8 | 10.8 | 15.0 | 6.7 | 5.0 | 3.3 | 171.7 | 191.2 |
| Adolphus Washington | 40 | 95.5 | 9.4 | 11.0 | 5.7 | 3.3 | 4.9 | 116.7 | 185.6 |
| Johnathan Hankins | 40 | 127.9 | 12.1 | 5.3 | 1.1 | 0.0 | 2.1 | 57.9 | 181.2 |
| Michael Bennett | 40 | 64.9 | 11.0 | 14.7 | 4.1 | 3.3 | 8.2 | 126.5 | 178.8 |
| Tyquan Lewis | 40 | 56.6 | 9.8 | 17.7 | 8.3 | 3.8 | 3.8 | 132.8 | 169.9 |
| Zach Harrison | 40 | 54.3 | 7.6 | 10.5 | 1.9 | 3.8 | 1.9 | 61.0 | 122.3 |
| Jonathon Cooper | 40 | 53.3 | 4.4 | 8.9 | 4.4 | 1.8 | 3.6 | 72.0 | 114.8 |
| Jalyn Holmes | 40 | 57.1 | 7.3 | 4.1 | 4.9 | 4.1 | 4.1 | 42.5 | 113.7 |
| Steve Miller | 40 | 40.6 | 9.7 | 5.7 | 4.6 | 2.3 | 2.3 | 116.6 | 104.9 |
| Rashad Frazier | 40 | 31.7 | 5.0 | 6.7 | 3.3 | 0.0 | 6.7 | 43.3 | 96.7 |
| Jashon Cornell | 40 | 44.0 | 5.8 | 6.2 | 0.9 | 0.0 | 4.4 | 65.8 | 95.0 |
| Tommy Togiai | 40 | 49.1 | 6.7 | 3.6 | 0.0 | 3.6 | 1.2 | 32.7 | 87.4 |
| Garrett Goebel | 40 | 60.4 | 5.5 | 1.6 | 0.0 | 1.6 | 1.6 | 19.6 | 86.2 |
| DaVon Hamilton | 40 | 34.0 | 10.6 | 5.3 | 0.8 | 0.0 | 2.3 | 70.9 | 85.8 |
| Robert Landers | 40 | 31.9 | 16.2 | 1.9 | 3.1 | 0.0 | 1.5 | 53.1 | 82.9 |
| Tyreke Smith | 40 | 29.7 | 2.6 | 5.2 | 5.2 | 3.9 | 0.0 | 47.8 | 68.3 |
| Jamal Marcus | 40 | 45.0 | 0.0 | 3.3 | 0.0 | 3.3 | 1.7 | 16.7 | 68.3 |
| Tommy Schutt | 40 | 37.4 | 3.7 | 3.2 | 3.2 | 1.1 | 1.1 | 24.2 | 65.2 |
| Javonte Jean-Baptiste | 40 | 33.0 | 2.0 | 5.0 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 2.0 | 42.0 | 64.2 |
| Haskell Garrett | 40 | 33.3 | 4.4 | 2.0 | 1.0 | 2.0 | 1.0 | 28.3 | 58.7 |
| Tyler Friday | 40 | 22.4 | 1.6 | 4.8 | 1.6 | 0.0 | 1.6 | 32.0 | 50.6 |
| Antwuan Jackson | 40 | 34.2 | 5.8 | 1.7 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 11.7 | 52.1 |
| Michael Hill | 40 | 33.0 | 3.8 | 2.2 | 2.2 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 24.9 | 51.8 |
| Taron Vincent | 40 | 22.5 | 3.8 | 3.8 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 38.0 | 45.0 |
| Tracy Sprinkle | 40 | 22.7 | 4.0 | 0.0 | 1.3 | 1.3 | 1.3 | 9.3 | 39.6 |
| Jerron Cage | 40 | 20.0 | 3.2 | 0.0 | 2.1 | 2.1 | 2.1 | 4.2 | 39.3 |
| Joel Hale | 40 | 29.3 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 0.9 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 30.7 |
| J.T. Moore | 40 | 23.5 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 7.1 | 29.0 |
| Chris Carter | 40 | 16.9 | 0.0 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 1.5 | 3.1 | 27.9 |
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Some of the best seasons from a DL during the Meyer-Day Era:
| Player | Season | Games | Tackles | Tackle_FL | QB_Sacks | QB_Hurry | Pass_BU | Turnover | Total_Def | DL_Score | DLS/Game |
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| Chase Young | 2019 | 12 | 25.0 | 4.5 | 16.5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 129 | 130.4 | 10.87 |
| Joey Bosa | 2014 | 15 | 34.0 | 7.5 | 13.5 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 130 | 123.5 | 8.23 |
| Joey Bosa | 2015 | 12 | 35.0 | 11.0 | 5.0 | 14 | 3 | 2 | 98 | 107.8 | 8.98 |
| Noah Spence | 2013 | 13 | 37.5 | 6.5 | 8.0 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 83 | 98.8 | 7.60 |
| Chase Young | 2018 | 14 | 18.5 | 5.0 | 10.5 | 9 | 5 | 2 | 86 | 93.6 | 6.69 |
| Johnathan Hankins | 2011 | 13 | 56.0 | 8.0 | 3.0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 24 | 86.4 | 6.65 |
| Joey Bosa | 2013 | 14 | 30.5 | 6.0 | 7.5 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 81 | 84.1 | 6.01 |
| Nick Bosa | 2017 | 14 | 18.0 | 7.5 | 8.5 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 74 | 81.9 | 5.29 |
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A little bit of trivia... The 2017 Ohio State DL had the following players:
Nick Bosa (1st round, #2 overall in 2019)
Chase Young (1st round, #2 overall in 2020)
Tyquan Lewis (2nd round, #64 overall in 2018)
Dre'mont Jones (3rd round, #71 overall in 2019)
DaVon Hamilton (3rd round, #73 overall in 2020)
Sam Hubbard (3rd round, #77 overall in 2018)
Jalyn Holmes (4th round, #102 overall in 2018)
Jashon Cornell (7th round, #235 overall in 2020)
Jonathon Cooper (7th round, #239 overall in 2021)
Haskell Garrett (first team All American in 2020)
Nick Bosa (1st round, #2 overall in 2019)
Chase Young (1st round, #2 overall in 2020)
Tyquan Lewis (2nd round, #64 overall in 2018)
Dre'mont Jones (3rd round, #71 overall in 2019)
DaVon Hamilton (3rd round, #73 overall in 2020)
Sam Hubbard (3rd round, #77 overall in 2018)
Jalyn Holmes (4th round, #102 overall in 2018)
Jashon Cornell (7th round, #235 overall in 2020)
Jonathon Cooper (7th round, #239 overall in 2021)
Haskell Garrett (first team All American in 2020)
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Look at that...
Jack Sawyer and J.T. Tuimoloau don't even show up on those charts AT ALL.
#busts
Jack Sawyer and J.T. Tuimoloau don't even show up on those charts AT ALL.
#busts
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Great breakdown. I'm pretty high on the DL due to Smith playing up against Clemson (I know they don't have a great OL, but still), Garrett being an anchor, and Harrison playing better than I thought last year and having the upside. All this plus COVID hampering a lot of development has me thinking that the jumps we didn't see happened over the last 8 months. But they need to show it on the field.
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