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A front 4 with backups would cause a stir at Mgoblow. That's how big the talent gap is between the 2 programs
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Buckeneye
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Just got done watching the condensed version of the Spring Game. Quick thoughts.
- Dawand Jones is a massive human being. It's a double edged sword because at times I thought I was watching Orlando Brown Jr, other times I felt like I was watching Alex Boone when he wasn't sober.
When he gets his hands on you, he locks you up like Fort Knox. When he doesn't he struggles to recover to the edge. Tends to waist bend too much at times as well. LT is going to be an interesting watch, it's a tough ask
to get any human being 340lbs to be "lighter" on their feet.
- Jaxon Smith Njigba. First off, he needs a classic tOSU nickname because he's a prime candidate. Jibby? JaxSN? With how damn long his arms are I might just call him Jax Reacher... good lord. Future 1st round pick.
Keep in mind the Buckeyes once had Ginn, Gonzo, Holmes, Roy Hall, Robo and Hartline on the roster at the same time. Current receiver room might just end up being better. Zero hyperbole.
- Ryan Watts INT might be one of the more higher football IQ plays I've seen from a DB. To go from showing press, to opening your hips and peaking the QB drop depth, knowing being that high on a receiver invites the back shoulder - THEN being fluid enough to create a little late contact while squeezing the WR to the boundary and anticipating the throw? That's insane. Yes, the ball was placed a bit inside. But for a young DB to have that kind of situational feel for the route is really something.
- Interior Oline looked pretty good.
- Stroud made a few nice throws with timing. But he's still a freshman and that's going to hurt at some point. So thank God for Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson.
- Miyan Williams looking quick. His change of direction is pretty ridiculous and I almost feel like I'm watching Danny Woodhead?
- When our young QB's missed, seems like they tend to miss high. Good news is it rarely happened with throws that were in rhythm and on time.
It's just a team being lead by veteran pass catchers and youth everywhere else. Sky is the limit dependent on the production and growth from the QB position.
- Dawand Jones is a massive human being. It's a double edged sword because at times I thought I was watching Orlando Brown Jr, other times I felt like I was watching Alex Boone when he wasn't sober.
When he gets his hands on you, he locks you up like Fort Knox. When he doesn't he struggles to recover to the edge. Tends to waist bend too much at times as well. LT is going to be an interesting watch, it's a tough ask
to get any human being 340lbs to be "lighter" on their feet.
- Jaxon Smith Njigba. First off, he needs a classic tOSU nickname because he's a prime candidate. Jibby? JaxSN? With how damn long his arms are I might just call him Jax Reacher... good lord. Future 1st round pick.
Keep in mind the Buckeyes once had Ginn, Gonzo, Holmes, Roy Hall, Robo and Hartline on the roster at the same time. Current receiver room might just end up being better. Zero hyperbole.
- Ryan Watts INT might be one of the more higher football IQ plays I've seen from a DB. To go from showing press, to opening your hips and peaking the QB drop depth, knowing being that high on a receiver invites the back shoulder - THEN being fluid enough to create a little late contact while squeezing the WR to the boundary and anticipating the throw? That's insane. Yes, the ball was placed a bit inside. But for a young DB to have that kind of situational feel for the route is really something.
- Interior Oline looked pretty good.
- Stroud made a few nice throws with timing. But he's still a freshman and that's going to hurt at some point. So thank God for Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson.
- Miyan Williams looking quick. His change of direction is pretty ridiculous and I almost feel like I'm watching Danny Woodhead?
- When our young QB's missed, seems like they tend to miss high. Good news is it rarely happened with throws that were in rhythm and on time.
It's just a team being lead by veteran pass catchers and youth everywhere else. Sky is the limit dependent on the production and growth from the QB position.
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
"Keep in mind the Buckeyes once had Ginn, Gonzo, Holmes, Roy Hall, Robo and Hartline on the roster at the same time. Current receiver room might just end up being better. Zero hyperbole."
I don't think there's any question that this group is/will be better very quickly and I'd be surprised if Hartline doesn't think so. They certainly have the advantage of being coached by Hartline, this group has next-level athletes who came in prepared to get to work, and the program is better now. Ginn and Holmes would get some PT on this team, but they'd be splitting time and I'm not sure any of the others would see the field.
I don't think there's any question that this group is/will be better very quickly and I'd be surprised if Hartline doesn't think so. They certainly have the advantage of being coached by Hartline, this group has next-level athletes who came in prepared to get to work, and the program is better now. Ginn and Holmes would get some PT on this team, but they'd be splitting time and I'm not sure any of the others would see the field.
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It boggles the mind to think how far the program has come since I was a student.
In 1988 the OSU starting wideouts were Jeff Graham and Bobby Olive. Graham was a respectable NFL receiver for more than a decade. Olive didn't appear in a game in the NFL until he was 26 years old (1995). He appeared in one game that season and one game the following season. Not to disparage him, and I appreciate the catch he made in the 1987 LSU game, but I'm not sure he would start over Sam Wiglusz. I don't remember seeing Olive do anything as athletic as Sam's TD reception on the last play of the Spring Game.
Whether or not you pick Sam over Bobby, Sam is vastly superior to any receiver on that 1988 team not named Graham or Olive. And he's a walk-on scout team player on the 2021 team.
Yes, the 2004 receiving corps was a big step up from 1987, but it's still not in the vicinity of what I saw Saturday in terms of depth.
In 1988 the OSU starting wideouts were Jeff Graham and Bobby Olive. Graham was a respectable NFL receiver for more than a decade. Olive didn't appear in a game in the NFL until he was 26 years old (1995). He appeared in one game that season and one game the following season. Not to disparage him, and I appreciate the catch he made in the 1987 LSU game, but I'm not sure he would start over Sam Wiglusz. I don't remember seeing Olive do anything as athletic as Sam's TD reception on the last play of the Spring Game.
Whether or not you pick Sam over Bobby, Sam is vastly superior to any receiver on that 1988 team not named Graham or Olive. And he's a walk-on scout team player on the 2021 team.
Yes, the 2004 receiving corps was a big step up from 1987, but it's still not in the vicinity of what I saw Saturday in terms of depth.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
2. QB CJ STROUD
Coming into the spring game, CJ Stroud was expected to be Ohio State's starter next fall, even if Day won't say it publically. Nothing the redshirt freshman quarterback did on Saturday changed that perception. In fact, he may have only strengthened his grip on the QB1 spot.
Stroud looked calm, composed and confident running the offense throughout the spring game. He completed 16-of-22 pass attempts for 185 yards. His first touchdown showed good ability to manipulate a defense with his eyes before coming back to his open receiver and the second made him look like Justin Fields in the College Football Playoff. He showed an ability to make a variety of throws throughout the game and had no problem getting out of the pocket and throwing the ball away when something wasn't there, which will please Day.
4. QB KYLE MCCORD
Freshman quarterback Kyle McCord talks with Justin Fields
In watching Kyle McCord on Saturday, you wouldn't know he's a player that should be getting ready for his high school prom instead of running the Buckeye offense. McCord did not look like someone who was playing quarterback for St. Joseph's Prep just a few months ago, but maybe that's why he was a five-star prospect.
McCord may have played the least of the three quarterbacks -- which might say something about where he is on the depth chart at the moment -- but had some impressive throws while going 12-of-17 passing for 184 yards and two touchdowns, including that 55-yard pass on his first attempt to Wilson. He showed perfect touch on his first touchdown pass, floating the ball over Martinez, and made the right read on his roll out to a wide open tight end Joe Royer on his second scoring throw.
HONORABLE MENTION
Jack Miller: While many are focusing on the redshirt freshman quarterback's interception followed by three straight incompletions, Miller did also attempt (30) and complete (17) the most passes of all three of the quarterbacks. He also threw for 128 yards.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
QUARTERBACKS
Jack Miller: 40 (12 Brutus, 17 Buckeye, 11 second half)
C.J. Stroud: 36 (19 Brutus, 3 Buckeye, 14 second half)
Kyle McCord: 27 (3 Brutus, 17 Buckeye, 7 second half)
Jagger LaRoe: 4 (4 second half)
J.P. Andrade: 2 (2 second half)
Miller was the first quarterback to take the field in Saturday’s spring game, but that’s probably not worth reading into too much, as he was the only scholarship quarterback on the original roster for Team Buckeye, which started with the ball after the game’s opening coin toss.
The three scholarship quarterbacks alternated series throughout the game, with Stroud entering the game second and McCord entering the game third and all three games switching between the Buckeye and Brutus rosters. Stroud started the second half after Miller closed out the first half; both of them ended up playing five series, while McCord played four, likely because they’ve both been at Ohio State for a year longer than McCord has.
You could choose to read into the fact that Miller played the most snaps among quarterbacks in the spring game, or that Stroud started the second half with the day’s first-team offensive line – but Saturday was really about getting all three quarterbacks enough reps to show what they can do while throwing in front of fans in Ohio Stadium for the first time, and Ryan Day and Corey Dennis ensured that happened.
Walk-on quarterbacks LaRoe and Andrade, who had also never thrown passes in an Ohio State game before Saturday, also got their turn in the spotlight on the game’s final series. LaRoe turned heads with his performance, as he completed three of four passing attempts for 63 yards (including a beautiful 20-yard touchdown pass to Sam Wiglusz on the game’s final play), while Andrade completed his two passing attempts for 12 total yards.
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TheMightyQuinn
"The future is bright at Ohio State."
I dont think Ginn comes over to the offense on this team. He stays at cb. Holmes would start. Imo
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billmac91
Head Coach
Not sure if this is right thread, but with OSU down to 82 scholarship players out of 85, I wonder if we see any transfer portal activity? I don’t have any current insight, although I’d think Kicker and DB’s would be top priorities.
Not sure what’s available at kicker, but Miami landed a stud in Jose Borregales last year in transfer portal....he made a huge difference for them.
Not sure what’s available at kicker, but Miami landed a stud in Jose Borregales last year in transfer portal....he made a huge difference for them.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Just sayin': Then again, it's always nice to have a couple scholarships available to give as a "thank you/reward" to deserving senior walk-ons in appreciation for their 4 years of contributions to the team.
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