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2021 CFB Playoff Discussion

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Oh8ch said:
The goal of the playoff should be to ensure that the best team is included.
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I would argue that the goal of the playoff is to ensure that the best team wins it. The problem is that we don't know who the best team is. Except, we knew in 2002. And we knew in 2005. I'm pretty sure we knew in 2006, too. But normally, we guess that the best team is one of these 2 teams or 4 teams or whatever, and then we let them play it out to see who wins.
The problem with any X-team playoffs is that you need to bring in X teams, even if you don't have X teams that really look like they could be champions. 2003 was an interesting year - LSU vs. Oklahoma, leaving USC out. One idea was that if there was a 4-team playoff, USC would have been in. But do you know who else would have been in? TTUN. To think that they deserved a shot at the national championship really annoyed me. So do we leave out teams that could possibly be a team that could be the best, or do we let in teams that we know can't be considered the best? I have to side with the fewer teams idea.

However, playoffs will expand. Follow the money. More playoffs = more money. I just wish they would allow for more regional gams. Not necessarily home field games - somewhere I heard that some of the stadiums aren't really winterized or winterizable (is that a word?). If you can't play home games in Columbus, maybe make Indianapolis the de facto home field stadium for Big Ten teams in the playoffs. 90% or more of the tickets should go to Ohio State, so it's as close to a home field as possible. And get rid of this "Power 5" junk. We all know that those 5 conferences are better than the other 5 conferences, but don't put that into the rules. Say "Top 6 conference champions" or "Top 5" or "Top 8" or whatever. We all know that 90% of the time those 5 conferences will all be in.

Anyway, all this to say that I agree with you, Oh8ch - 4 is usually enough. I can't think of any year where the #5 team really deserved to be in the playoffs... except for all those years Ohio State was left out. Ohio State was robbed all of those years.
 
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Zurp said:
I would argue that the goal of the playoff is to ensure that the best team wins it. The problem is that we don't know who the best team is. Except, we knew in 2002. And we knew in 2005. I'm pretty sure we knew in 2006, too. But normally, we guess that the best team is one of these 2 teams or 4 teams or whatever, and then we let them play it out to see who wins.
The problem with any X-team playoffs is that you need to bring in X teams, even if you don't have X teams that really look like they could be champions. 2003 was an interesting year - LSU vs. Oklahoma, leaving USC out. One idea was that if there was a 4-team playoff, USC would have been in. But do you know who else would have been in? TTUN. To think that they deserved a shot at the national championship really annoyed me. So do we leave out teams that could possibly be a team that could be the best, or do we let in teams that we know can't be considered the best? I have to side with the fewer teams idea.

However, playoffs will expand. Follow the money. More playoffs = more money. I just wish they would allow for more regional gams. Not necessarily home field games - somewhere I heard that some of the stadiums aren't really winterized or winterizable (is that a word?). If you can't play home games in Columbus, maybe make Indianapolis the de facto home field stadium for Big Ten teams in the playoffs. 90% or more of the tickets should go to Ohio State, so it's as close to a home field as possible. And get rid of this "Power 5" junk. We all know that those 5 conferences are better than the other 5 conferences, but don't put that into the rules. Say "Top 6 conference champions" or "Top 5" or "Top 8" or whatever. We all know that 90% of the time those 5 conferences will all be in.

Anyway, all this to say that I agree with you, Oh8ch - 4 is usually enough. I can't think of any year where the #5 team really deserved to be in the playoffs... except for all those years Ohio State was left out. Ohio State was robbed all of those years.
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That's typically why I go with 8, mostly for the same reasons but a team like Utah, who seems to be peaking at the right time, wont get in because it lost earlier games and even winning the PAC wont do it. There's often teams peaking at the end that the committee could get in with 8 teams, 5 Power 5 conference champs and 3 At-Large bids. It only adds one week to the current schedule as well so it's very doable. The 12 I'm hearing tossed around is too many and strictly for money purposes alone.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
That's typically why I go with 8, mostly for the same reasons but a team like Utah, who seems to be peaking at the right time, wont get in because it lost earlier games and even winning the PAC wont do it. There's often teams peaking at the end that the committee could get in with 8 teams, 5 Power 5 conference champs and 3 At-Large bids. It only adds one week to the current schedule as well so it's very doable. The 12 I'm hearing tossed around is too many and strictly for money purposes alone.
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Peaking at the right time. Barf.
If you want to win a championship, don't get off to a slow start at the beginning of the year.
If we go with 8 teams, don't do Power 5 auto bids. I like the thought that the top 5 or 6 conference champions are in. But don't put in the rules that conferences A, B, C, D, and E are better than the others.
Actually, my vote would be to only look at the top 12 teams. If you finished #13 or lower (or above, depending on how you think of it) you are out of the playoff picture with no possibility of getting in. Zero. Eff off and have fun losing in whatever bowl game you think is a disrespect to you. For teams 1-12, 8 of you will get in. Start with teams 1 and 2. You're in, regardless of whether you won a conference. Next, go down the list, taking conference champions until you pass #12 or until you get 8 teams in. If you got to #12 and didn't fill out all 8 teams, go back to the top and start taking at-large teams.

I'm rambling..
 
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4. OHIO STATE BUCKEYES (8-1)
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Make Playoffs: 58.0%

Reach National Championship: 32.1%

Win Title: 15.7%

Purdue is a nightmare for College Football Playoff contenders. Already, the Boilermakers have knocked off No. 2 Iowa and No. 3 Michigan State, almost completely dashing both teams’ preseason hopes. This to say, Ohio State really has to watch out. It cannot afford a slip up this late in the season, and it would be really easy to overlook Purdue with both Michigan State and Michigan on the horizon. This is all compounded by the fact that the Buckeyes, which have looked like a total juggernaut since the Oregon loss, showed plenty of vulnerability last week against Nebraska.
 
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ScriptOhio said:


4. OHIO STATE BUCKEYES (8-1)
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Make Playoffs: 58.0%

Reach National Championship: 32.1%

Win Title: 15.7%

Purdue is a nightmare for College Football Playoff contenders. Already, the Boilermakers have knocked off No. 2 Iowa and No. 3 Michigan State, almost completely dashing both teams’ preseason hopes. This to say, Ohio State really has to watch out. It cannot afford a slip up this late in the season, and it would be really easy to overlook Purdue with both Michigan State and Michigan on the horizon. This is all compounded by the fact that the Buckeyes, which have looked like a total juggernaut since the Oregon loss, showed plenty of vulnerability last week against Nebraska.
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“Easy to overlook Purdue”

HAHAHAHAHA!

Who wrote that garbage? They have no idea. This one is personal.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
It cannot afford a slip up this late in the season, and it would be really easy to overlook Purdue with both Michigan State and Michigan on the horizon.
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so they need to not overlook opponents, but overlook Penn state.
This is all compounded by the fact that the Buckeyes, which have looked like a total juggernaut since the Oregon loss, showed plenty of vulnerability last week against Nebraska.
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so then... not a juggernaut whatsoever.
 
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Zem said:
I disagree and still think there is a good chance Auburn will hand Bama their second loss, which would put A&M in there as it stands now, to battle UGA for SEC supremacy. If Bama makes it to the CCG, I don't see UGA having much of a problem.

This isn't the same Tide; maybe Saban finally made some mistakes with respect to the assistants he hired recently. Maybe he is losing it at 70. Will Anderson is the one star on defense that I can think of. The rest of that D is not what we are used to seeing.
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They had the better team a couple years ago, and had the job done as well.
Then they blew it. Saban and Belichick don't lose to their walmart knockoffs.
 
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Bowl projections: Oklahoma loss opens door wider for Cincinnati as Alabama enters playoff field

The Crimson Tide are projected to win out through the regular season before losing to No. 1 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game. Those two would then rematch in a CFP semifinal at the Orange Bowl.

Ohio State is now projected as the No. 2 seed with the Buckeyes expected to finish 12-1 as the Big Ten champions. Cincinnati, previously in as the No. 4 seed, moves one spot to No. 3 where it will face its in-state rivals in the Cotton Bowl semifinal.

College Football Playoff
DATE GAME / LOC. MATCHUP PREDICTION

Dec. 31: Orange Bowl
Miami Gardens, Fla.

Semifinal: (1) Georgia vs. (4) Alabama

Dec. 31: Cotton Bowl
Arlington, Texas

Semifinal: (2) Ohio State vs. (3) Cincinnati

Oregon remains the projected Pac-12 champion, but it's expected to hold an 11-2 record with another loss to come before the end of the regular season. Oklahoma State is projected to lose at least once to Oklahoma (a Big 12 Championship Game rematch is not assured), while both Michigan and Michigan State are projected to fall to Ohio State later this month.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...r-cincinnati-as-alabama-enters-playoff-field/

I'd love it, bring on the Juggalos.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Bowl projections: Oklahoma loss opens door wider for Cincinnati as Alabama enters playoff field

The Crimson Tide are projected to win out through the regular season before losing to No. 1 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game. Those two would then rematch in a CFP semifinal at the Orange Bowl.

Ohio State is now projected as the No. 2 seed with the Buckeyes expected to finish 12-1 as the Big Ten champions. Cincinnati, previously in as the No. 4 seed, moves one spot to No. 3 where it will face its in-state rivals in the Cotton Bowl semifinal.

College Football Playoff
DATE GAME / LOC. MATCHUP PREDICTION

Dec. 31: Orange Bowl
Miami Gardens, Fla.

Semifinal: (1) Georgia vs. (4) Alabama

Dec. 31: Cotton Bowl
Arlington, Texas

Semifinal: (2) Ohio State vs. (3) Cincinnati

Oregon remains the projected Pac-12 champion, but it's expected to hold an 11-2 record with another loss to come before the end of the regular season. Oklahoma State is projected to lose at least once to Oklahoma (a Big 12 Championship Game rematch is not assured), while both Michigan and Michigan State are projected to fall to Ohio State later this month.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...r-cincinnati-as-alabama-enters-playoff-field/

I'd love it, bring on the Juggalos.
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So, let me get this straight….Bama loses to UGA and the result is a rematch in the first round of the playoffs?

Pretty sure the CFP has a stated policy preventing that kind of thing but regardless, that’s just fucking moronic.

If Bama gets a second loss, they should be done. Especially if Oregon is sitting there as a 1 loss conference champ with a win over OSU.

the premise of this article is stupid even by sportswriter standards.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So, let me get this straight….Bama loses to UGA and the result is a rematch in the first round of the playoffs?

Pretty sure the CFP has a stated policy preventing that kind of thing but regardless, that’s just fucking moronic.

If Bama gets a second loss, they should be done. Especially if Oregon is sitting there as a 1 loss conference champ with a win over OSU.

the premise of this article is stupid even by sportswriter standards.
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the premise of almost all “news” and articles at this point is to get clicks and drive folks to the point of responding, engaging, and enrage
 
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