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2020 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Surrender Cobras (Confirmed COWARDS!)

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Mgoboard seems to think its fake news. Webb supposedly denied it.

If harbaugh is planning on testing the nfl market why would he be hiring new staff? Unless they plan to make champ hc if harbaugh bolts. In which case I fully endorse such a move. I think at most theyve contacted him about taking the job if harbaugh stays.



Maize and Luke

December 26th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^

Anyone else worried that this guy has been a HC at a couple D1 schools and after a good season or two with UM he’ll bolt for first decent HC that comes along?

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DTOW

December 26th, 2020 at 3:52 PM ^

Such is life as a top 10-15 program.
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:slappy: imagine thinking tsun is a top 10-15 program.
 
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:lol:

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/bashing-our-new-england-recruiting-lazy

DFBIA in defense of recruiting the hell out of the north east

Bashing Our New England Recruiting Is Lazy
Submitted by Snazzy_McDazzy on December 28th, 2020 at 9:17 AM


I am amazed and dumbfounded at the continuous bashing of our efforts to recruit in New England. No one disputes the fact that Michigan needs to recruit better. But someone please tell me why New England in particular has been a problem. Let's take a look at the results thus far:



Sean McKeon (2016) - He may not have been flashy but he did end up being our best option at TE prior to graduating. Hard to call him a miss.

Kwity Paye (2017) - No explanation needed. Will be a 1st round pick in the upcoming draft.

Tarik Black (2017) - Remember, he was clearly a better player than DPJ and Nico Collins as a true freshman. Injuries are the only reason he isn't considered a success.

Andrew Stueber (2017) - He's been a valuable contributor on the offensive line.

Ben Mason (2017) - Can't say Michigan didn't get what was expected from him.

Luke Schoonmaker (2018) - A quintessential project whose story is still being written.

Mike Sainristil (2019) - Valuable contributor early on.

Cornelius Johnson (2019) - Our second best WR this season as a redshirt freshman.

Jack Stewart (2019) - Too early to tell.

Zak Zinter (2020) - Against all odds given the nature of true freshman OL and the depth chart, Zinter still earned quite a bit of playing time this season.

Kalel Mullings (2020) - Most everyone was interested in Mullings out of HS. High level recruit.

Eamonn Dennis (2020) - A project at a position of need who also happens to be one of the best athletes on the team.



Seriously, what am I missing? Given the very hit and miss nature of recruiting, I think any neutral observer would have to conclude that Michigan has been fortunate to have these 12 recruits from the New England area. We've had our share of shortcomings in the recruiting department but this hasn't been one of them.
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buckeyemania11 said:
:lol:

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/bashing-our-new-england-recruiting-lazy

DFBIA in defense of recruiting the hell out of the north east
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Sean McKeon (2016) - He may not have been flashy but he did end up being our best option at TE prior to graduating. Hard to call him a miss.
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LordJeffBuck said:
So basically, Kwity Paye and Tarik Black, whom they under-developed, and ten bums.
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When the criticism is an overall lack of recruiting success, a three-star ending up being a starter isn’t a defense of said recruiting.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Ben Mason (2017) - Can't say Michigan didn't get what was expected from him.
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I think any neutral observer would have to conclude that Michigan has been fortunate to have these 12 recruits from the New England area
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I don't think he thought this through very well.
 
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AJHawkfan said:
You know what you get when you have a team full of "solid contributors", guys who "saw a lot of snaps" and "quintessential projects"?

2-4 and no bowl game invitation.
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:lol: The "quintessential project" TE mentioned has been in the program for 3 years and has a grand total of 2 catches (both in garbage time situations in 2019 blowouts)

DFBIA is constantly mistaking "we have a lot of players" for being a good thing.
 
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Sean McKeon (2016) - He may not have been flashy but he did end up being our best option at TE prior to graduating. Hard to call him a miss.
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McKeon's career stats: 40 games, 60 receptions, 668 yards, 16.7 yards per game, 6 TDs. Okay, I know it's hard to do, but I'm calling him a miss.
Ben Mason (2017) - Can't say Michigan didn't get what was expected from him.
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If you expected 119 yards from scrimmage in 45 games, well you got it!
Cornelius Johnson (2019) - Our second best WR this season as a redshirt freshman.
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Sophomore, actually. Johnson's 2020 stats: 6 games, 16 receptions, 254 yards, 42.3 yards per game, 3 TDs. Pretty "meh" numbers for a WR2.
Mike Sainristil (2019) - Valuable contributor early on.
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Remember when DFBIA was blowing their collective wad over this chump? Anyway, this "valuable contributor" has 15 receptions and 227 yards ... for his career.
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DFBIA is constantly mistaking "we have a lot of players" for being a good thing.
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They equate "doing nothing" with "having lots of potential" ... we equate "doing nothing" with "being a bust." Fundamental difference in philosophy.

Remind me, which team has won 17 of 19 games this century?
 
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Kwity Paye (2017) - No explanation needed. Will be a 1st round pick in the upcoming draft.
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Even the headliner is overrated, if you're going by consistent, on-field production in college, as opposed to possible draft position. He reportedly has great physical measurables, and may be a high draft pick on that basis. But, at Michigan, has he consistently been a high impact player, or a pretty good player?
 
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zincfinger said:
Even the headliner is overrated, if you're going by consistent, on-field production in college, as opposed to possible draft position. He reportedly has great physical measurables, and may be a high draft pick on that basis. But, at Michigan, has he consistently been a high impact player, or a pretty good player?
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11 1/2 sacks in 4 years.

Both sacks this season were against a woeful minnesota team. He was nowhere to be found for the most part in the other games.

I guess you could consider his production "ok" at scUM due to him only being a 400+ rated 3* coming in.

Much like Rashan Gary, his production/ability at scUM is not the reason hes gonna get drafted high. Its the NFL team banking on being able to turn measurables into something.
 
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