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2020 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Surrender Cobras (Confirmed COWARDS!)

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I love the "expand the playoffs to 8" or whatever number to break up the Bama/Clemson/OSU monopoly.

It appears that they think the elite kids are saying "I'd like to come to tsun because of academics and in person classes but Alabama is going to be in the playoffs and I just can't risk missing out. If they'd expand the field and let you guys in I'd be there in a heart beat"

It’s all Very odd logic. DFBIA gonna DFBIA
 
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I wanted to post this under a new thread "Never Forget" but I cannot figure out how to start a new thread so I'll just post it here and if a mod thinks its worth of its own thread (since this is the 2020 thread and a new one will go up soon and this post will be buried) they can set it up...


My dad is 84 and still going strong. I am blessed to have him. No young man could ever have asked for a better example of what a man and father should be. He raised me to work for what I want. He raised me to never be afraid to fail because the best learning experiences are borne from failure. My dad is 1st generation Lebanese-Catholic. He went to Catholic high school (Purcell) here in Cincinnati. His father, my grandfather, Assad 'ACE' Ja'bril (Yes, Ja'bril is Arabic for Gabriel not that jackass from TSUN) followed Notre Dame because of the religion. My dad subsequently was raised on Notre Dame but by the time he was 15 he started to fall in love with Ohio State and Woody Hayes. My dad never grew hatred for Notre Dame and always reminded me that Woody was the 'best recruiter Notre Dame ever had'. But our home was always Ohio State centered and that is where my love comes from. My dad's biggest heartache was The Game '69. His biggest satisfaction was the 'Remember Ann Arbor' The Game of '70...

I type all of this as a prelude to what I am about to type next...and to quote John Hicks from the HBO documentary...'it ain't going to be pretty'...

NEVER FORGET 2020...NEVER EVER FORGET what these motherfuckers did. It is YOUR responsibility as an Ohio State alumnus, as an Ohio State fan, an Ohio State student or just citizen of this great state to NEVER EVER LET THEM FORGET. You see a Walmart Wolverine in public it IS YOUR JOB to smile at them and call them 'quitter' as you walk by. You have a scUM fan on your social media it IS YOUR JOB to tag them in a 'Cowards of the West' tweet or post. Feel free to write, tweet at or IG at sUM football that they are quitters and cowards. NEVER EVER let them live down what they did to Ohio State seniors. They took away their senior day. They took away their Gold Pants. They put a shot at the B1G title and Playoff appearance in jeopardy. Their own athletic department confirmed only 9 cases in the entire department last night...there is no doubt those yellow bellied cowards quit. Would Ryan Day had really gone for 100 today? maybe. maybe not. Will Ryan Day for 100 next year? ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY. We are just fans. Our number of The Games we get to watch is limited. At the end of the day, scUM only took away the intangible of happiness and enjoyment. Their quitting mentality took away real tangibles from the team. Bo Schembechler is spinning in his grave. Bo would have never laid down like a bunch of Frenchies. If Bo was down to 11 total players that man would be in Columbus today convinced the could win. I know we joke that scUM can go fuck off Until They Quit the Sport...well, they QUIT the fucking GAME...so in that regard they shall NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FORGET....NEVER EVER LET THEM FORGET THAT THEY ARE PUSSIES. THEY ARE COWARDS. THEY ARE QUITTERS. AND THEY HAVE A 100 POINT ASS KICKING COMING TO THEM NEXT YEAR.
 
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This thread is even better. Half of the posts are some variation of they can't compete because Bama, Clemson, and tOSU cheat or they don't care about football as much.

https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/friday...elite?sort_by=thread&items_per_page=50&page=0

This one's my favorite :slappy:
The old guard DFBIA are still hung up on bagmen and online classes and free tattoos ... another faction of DFBIA is celebrating wins from the 1800s ... then you've got the batshit crazy conspiracy theorists who claim that the Big Ten is out to get them ... and of course there are the revisionist historians who are desperately trying to convince themselves that 2-17 isn't really as bad as it looks:

It’s taken a historic run of bad luck for OSU to do what they have done us. Go back and look at the games. Don’t focus on the last two. Look since 2001 and you’ll see that is been bad coaching more then a talent gap. The one position they have destroyed us in is QB. We are not developing the talent that we get. There might be disagreements this but I believe

2003 and 2011 out right wins

2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2016 and 2017 toss ups

2006, 2013 toss ups so spilt this to 1-1

2007 injuries but that team was unleashed in the bowl game. They would have beat anyone that day. Even with the rare Mike Hart fumbles.

2008, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019 bad loses and bad coaching and game plans on defense.

record should be 10 - 9. You could argue but this has been an amazing run of bad luck.

if this were true there would be 4 more BIG titles 2 playoff appearances and possible 1 national championship appearance.
First things first: The Harvard of the West certainly produces a lot of functional illiterates. I can't figure out from his post how he ends up with a record of 10-9 ... or even who's got the 10 and who's got the 9. But I will try to decipher....

Apparently, Michigan gets to keep their two wins, even though 2011 was as much of a "toss up" as any Game in this century.

And Ohio State is fortunate enough to keep its wins from 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2015, 2018, and 2019, Games which the Buckeyes luckily won by an average score of 43 to 19.

The other ten games are supposedly "toss ups". Okay, for the sake of an argument, I'll buy that. So let's split the toss ups 50/50, because that's what a toss up means.

That would make the record as follows: Ohio State 12, Michigan 7. Nothing to get super excited about, but that would make Michigan semi-respectable, I guess.

Now let's look at some of those alleged toss ups....

2001: Ohio State got up 23 to 0 and then the Buckeyes basically Tresselballed their was to a 26 to 20 win. Michigan had an extremely remote chance for a victory - they needed to go 80 yards in the final 9 seconds of The Game, but they couldn't dial up a miracle.

2004: Ohio State won by 16 points, and left 11 points on the field (two 1st-and-goal from the 1-yard line netted just 3 points).

2007: Ohio State won by 11 points, and held Michigan to 3 points, 91 total yards, 3 for 19 on 3rd/4th down, 22 minutes of possession.

2017: Ohio State won by 11 points, and Michigan quit in the 4th quarter.

Double-digit wins are almost never in the toss up category, so let's give those three Games to Ohio State. The 2001 Game was never really in doubt, so that goes to Ohio State as well. That makes the hypothetical tally: Ohio State 11, Michigan 2, with 6 potential toss ups still to decide.

2002: This Game literally came down to the last play. Michigan had the ball at the Ohio State 24-yard line, but Will Allen intercepted the final pass near the goal line as time expired to secure a hard fought 14-9 victory. The very definition of a toss up.

2005: Michigan should've won this Game. Ohio State outscored Michigan 13-0, and outgained them 155-18, over the final 7:49 to eke out a 4-point victory. Legit toss up.

2006: Ohio State had a 42-31 lead with 5:27 in The Game; Michigan scored a TD and 2-point conversion with 2:16 left, but couldn't recover the onside kick. A fairly comfortable win for Ohio State, but I'll reluctantly include this in the toss up category.

2012: Ohio State won by only 5 points, but completely shut down Michigan's offense in the 2nd half (0 points, 60 total yards, 10 minutes of possession, forced 3 turnovers). The Game ended with Ohio State taking knees in Michigan territory. Another Game that really favored Ohio State, but I'll call it a toss up.

2013: Michigan had a chance to take a one-point lead with 32 seconds on the clock, but their two-point conversion failed. Definite toss up.

2016: A double OT contest is always a toss up. Michigan came *this close* to stopping J.T. Barrett on 4th down to seal the deal, but they failed to do so and Curtis Samuel did the rest. Toss up.

So, let's split the remaining six toss ups evenly. That makes our final tally: Ohio State 14, Michigan 5 if Michigan gets a "normal" amount of luck (whatever that may be). Michigan would've needed extreme luck to get the tally to 12-7, and there's no way in Hell they were going to get it to 10-9 (or 9-10).

Instead of trying to rewrite history with a hundred "what ifs", scUM fans should be damned happy that COVID concerns (regardless of how bogus they might be) prevented Ohio State from taking an 18-2 lead in The Series this century, and in true curb-stomping fashion.
 
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The old guard DFBIA are still hung up on bagmen and online classes and free tattoos ... another faction of DFBIA is celebrating wins from the 1800s ... then you've got the batshit crazy conspiracy theorists who claim that the Big Ten is out to get them ... and of course there are the revisionist historians who are desperately trying to convince themselves that 2-17 isn't really as bad as it looks:

It’s taken a historic run of bad luck for OSU to do what they have done us. Go back and look at the games. Don’t focus on the last two. Look since 2001 and you’ll see that is been bad coaching more then a talent gap. The one position they have destroyed us in is QB. We are not developing the talent that we get. There might be disagreements this but I believe

2003 and 2011 out right wins

2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2016 and 2017 toss ups

2006, 2013 toss ups so spilt this to 1-1

2007 injuries but that team was unleashed in the bowl game. They would have beat anyone that day. Even with the rare Mike Hart fumbles.

2008, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019 bad loses and bad coaching and game plans on defense.

record should be 10 - 9. You could argue but this has been an amazing run of bad luck.

if this were true there would be 4 more BIG titles 2 playoff appearances and possible 1 national championship appearance.
First things first: The Harvard of the West certainly produces a lot of functional illiterates. I can't figure out from his post how he ends up with a record of 10-9 ... or even who's got the 10 and who's got the 9. But I will try to decipher....

Apparently, Michigan gets to keep their two wins, even though 2011 was as much of a "toss up" as any Game in this century.

And Ohio State is fortunate enough to keep its wins from 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2015, 2018, and 2019, Games which the Buckeyes luckily won by an average score of 43 to 19.

The other ten games are supposedly "toss ups". Okay, for the sake of an argument, I'll buy that. So let's split the toss ups 50/50, because that's what a toss up means.

That would make the record as follows: Ohio State 12, Michigan 7. Nothing to get super excited about, but that would make Michigan semi-respectable, I guess.

Now let's look at some of those alleged toss ups....

2001: Ohio State got up 23 to 0 and then the Buckeyes basically Tresselballed their was to a 26 to 20 win. Michigan had an extremely remote chance for a victory - they needed to go 80 yards in the final 9 seconds of The Game, but they couldn't dial up a miracle.

2004: Ohio State won by 16 points, and left 11 points on the field (two 1st-and-goal from the 1-yard line netted just 3 points).

2007: Ohio State won by 11 points, and held Michigan to 3 points, 91 total yards, 3 for 19 on 3rd/4th down, 22 minutes of possession.

2017: Ohio State won by 11 points, and Michigan quit in the 4th quarter.

Double-digit wins are almost never in the toss up category, so let's give those three Games to Ohio State. The 2001 Game was never really in doubt, so that goes to Ohio State as well. That makes the hypothetical tally: Ohio State 11, Michigan 2, with 6 potential toss ups still to decide.

2002: This Game literally came down to the last play. Michigan had the ball at the Ohio State 24-yard line, but Will Allen intercepted the final pass near the goal line as time expired to secure a hard fought 14-9 victory. The very definition of a toss up.

2005: Michigan should've won this Game. Ohio State outscored Michigan 13-0, and outgained them 155-18, over the final 7:49 to eke out a 4-point victory. Legit toss up.

2006: Ohio State had a 42-31 lead with 5:27 in The Game; Michigan scored a TD and 2-point conversion with 2:16 left, but couldn't recover the onside kick. A fairly comfortable win for Ohio State, but I'll reluctantly include this in the toss up category.

2012: Ohio State won by only 5 points, but completely shut down Michigan's offense in the 2nd half (0 points, 60 total yards, 10 minutes of possession, forced 3 turnovers). The Game ended with Ohio State taking knees in Michigan territory. Another Game that really favored Ohio State, but I'll call it a toss up.

2013: Michigan had a chance to take a one-point lead with 32 seconds on the clock, but their two-point conversion failed. Definite toss up.

2016: A double OT contest is always a toss up. Michigan came *this close* to stopping J.T. Barrett on 4th down to seal the deal, but they failed to do so and Curtis Samuel did the rest. Toss up.

So, let's split the remaining six toss ups evenly. That makes our final tally: Ohio State 14, Michigan 5 if Michigan gets a "normal" amount of luck (whatever that may be). Michigan would've needed extreme luck to get the tally to 12-7, and there's no way in Hell they were going to get it to 10-9 (or 9-10).

Instead of trying to rewrite history with a hundred "what ifs", scUM fans should be damned happy that COVID concerns (regardless of how bogus they might be) prevented Ohio State from taking an 18-2 lead in The Series this century, and in true curb-stomping fashion.

They need to, collectively, seek counseling. There are now an entire generation of them who know virtually nothing but failure during the final week of B1G play.

At this point, they aren’t broken... they’re just born this way.
 
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The old guard DFBIA are still hung up on bagmen and online classes and free tattoos ... another faction of DFBIA is celebrating wins from the 1800s ... then you've got the batshit crazy conspiracy theorists who claim that the Big Ten is out to get them ... and of course there are the revisionist historians who are desperately trying to convince themselves that 2-17 isn't really as bad as it looks:

I'm curious to see how their gen z fans view the rivalry because they've known nothing but failure. Have they inherited all of the undeserved arrogance and whiny, excuse making traits of the Bo and Lloyd generations? Or are they more grounded in reality?
 
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I love the "expand the playoffs to 8" or whatever number to break up the Bama/Clemson/OSU monopoly.

It appears that they think the elite kids are saying "I'd like to come to tsun because of academics and in person classes but Alabama is going to be in the playoffs and I just can't risk missing out. If they'd expand the field and let you guys in I'd be there in a heart beat"

I think there's some merit to that basic idea... but they'd need to go 32 for scUM to be included.
And they'd still just be 1st round warmup material, as their recent bowl record shows.
 
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just to reiterate if anyone missed it in the week 15 thread, minn goofers played a non rival down 33 players, and Illinois played their rival with only 21 scholarship defenders. If illinois can man up and face their rival with out a complete 2 deep on defense the cowards up north could have shown up.

They saw what happened to Arizona on their horizon
 
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